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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby nameant on Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:38 pm

So he took the most money. Shocker there.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby XXIV on Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:54 pm

IF he can stay somewhat healthy the Cavs should be an interesting team to watch in the East. It's a big if though.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby 432J on Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:58 pm

anyone else kind of surprised that he signed with the cavs despite potato head being HC?

don't remember them having the best relationship, especially after he was benched for shooting the 3 and the interview that followed
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby OX1947 on Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:06 pm

Bynum will not be healthy, ever. He doesnt give a shat.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby V.V.V.V.V. on Wed Jul 10, 2013 7:07 pm

Six million no matter what happens.

That being said, I wouldn't be surprised if he plays more than two-thirds of the season.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby Rooscooter on Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:25 pm

nameant wrote:So he took the most money. Shocker there.


Bum knees..... wouldn't you?

If he can show he's healed up for any length of time this will not be his last contract.... if the injuries keep coming they it will be. Can't knock him for that can you?
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby XXIV on Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:18 pm

432J wrote:anyone else kind of surprised that he signed with the cavs despite potato head being HC?

don't remember them having the best relationship, especially after he was benched for shooting the 3 and the interview that followed


The Cavs offered him the most cash so it's no surprise he went with them.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby revgen on Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:31 pm

Dallas simply couldn't move Marion or Carter. Cleveland offered the best deal.

I don't see Cleveland as a contender next season, but they have young pieces to grow with.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby revgen on Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:33 pm

432J wrote:anyone else kind of surprised that he signed with the cavs despite potato head being HC?

don't remember them having the best relationship, especially after he was benched for shooting the 3 and the interview that followed


Kobe and Phil got back together. And what Phil did to Kobe (The Last Season) was way more severe than anything Mike Brown did. For better or worse, Bynum at least knows what Brown's philosophy is.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby kenzo on Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:03 am

I wish him health/luck but i do hope they will SUCK. I want Irving to bolt and come to LA :man9:
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby revgen on Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:08 am

^Me too. I would hate it if Melo came here.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby The Rock on Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:34 am

Only $6mil? Not a bad deal for Cavs
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby purp n gold on Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:59 am

Holy cow... just one year ago we all thought Drew played himself into a big contract. I think at 6M he's a huge value. Kyrie should makes a few things easier for him too.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby abeer3 on Thu Jul 11, 2013 6:03 am

revgen wrote:Dallas simply couldn't move Marion or Carter. Cleveland offered the best deal.

I don't see Cleveland as a contender next season, but they have young pieces to grow with.


i read that they wouldn't, not couldn't. they supposedly didn't even make an offer, nor did the hawks.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby nameant on Thu Jul 11, 2013 6:17 am

Rooscooter wrote:
nameant wrote:So he took the most money. Shocker there.


Bum knees..... wouldn't you?

If he can show he's healed up for any length of time this will not be his last contract.... if the injuries keep coming they it will be. Can't knock him for that can you?


He's already made enough money in his career to be comfortable. If I was him, I'd figure I didn't have a lot of time left so I'd want to actually compete for something rather than playing on a mediocre team that gave me the most money. But hey like I said, no surprise, Bynum has never had the biggest heart.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby strikemode14 on Thu Jul 11, 2013 6:58 am

nameant wrote:
Rooscooter wrote:
nameant wrote:So he took the most money. Shocker there.


Bum knees..... wouldn't you?

If he can show he's healed up for any length of time this will not be his last contract.... if the injuries keep coming they it will be. Can't knock him for that can you?


He's already made enough money in his career to be comfortable. If I was him, I'd figure I didn't have a lot of time left so I'd want to actually compete for something rather than playing on a mediocre team that gave me the most money. But hey like I said, no surprise, Bynum has never had the biggest heart.


I look at it the other way. He already has won two titles and he was the starting center and contributor for both. Accomplishment wise I don't see him ever really doing more.

However once he retires no way he gets the money he is making now. At this point he needs to take as much money as he can get while he can get it.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby JSM on Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:50 am

Jodie Valade of the Cleveland Plain Dealer wrote:There was no reason to have him work out,” Lee said. “His skill level’s not in question, so there’s no reason to work out. The reality is he has not picked up the ball in some time and he has to get his weight down. He’s got to lose probably about 15 pounds, which is not a big deal. But to get on the floor you’ve got to reduce your weight, otherwise you risk injury.”

Hasn't practiced or kept himself in shape...not a good start for his time in Cleveland. But I bet his bowling game is up to par.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby slimjim on Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:53 pm

If Bynum is healthy... they could be a VERY scary team in the 2014/15 season.

Kyrie
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Max player.

That trio could do ALOT of damage out east for years to come. Pretty much the only team out east with young rising talent.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby LakerFanIam on Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:40 pm

The Rock wrote:Only $6mil? Not a bad deal for Cavs


My understanding is that it's $6Mil guaranteed for 1 year, but if he remains healthy & plays over a certain # of games, reaches Playoffs, etc. I believe his contract could be worth more like 2yrs/$25Mil. with the incentives.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby Doc Brown on Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:51 pm

2nd year is a team option, 1st year if they get to the playoffs and all that incentive jargon, it's fine they have the money to spend this year.

It's a win-win for both sides. For Cleveland it's even better....

If he stays healthy, they have an all-star caliber top 3-4 center (when healthy) at 12 million. That's a steal.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby revgen on Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:32 pm

abeer3 wrote:
revgen wrote:Dallas simply couldn't move Marion or Carter. Cleveland offered the best deal.

I don't see Cleveland as a contender next season, but they have young pieces to grow with.


i read that they wouldn't, not couldn't. they supposedly didn't even make an offer, nor did the hawks.


Dallas has been trying to pawn off Marion for awhile now. And that's before they ever got into the D12/Bynum sweepstakes.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby revgen on Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:40 pm

JSM wrote:
Jodie Valade of the Cleveland Plain Dealer wrote:There was no reason to have him work out,” Lee said. “His skill level’s not in question, so there’s no reason to work out. The reality is he has not picked up the ball in some time and he has to get his weight down. He’s got to lose probably about 15 pounds, which is not a big deal. But to get on the floor you’ve got to reduce your weight, otherwise you risk injury.”

Hasn't practiced or kept himself in shape...not a good start for his time in Cleveland. But I bet his bowling game is up to par.


15lbs for a person whose ideal weight is 285lbs isn't that big a deal. He should have that off by training camp.

He just got done with rehabbing both knees. He hasn't played for a year. He would have looked like crap in a workout.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby Psychobroker on Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:33 am

nameant wrote:
Rooscooter wrote:
nameant wrote:So he took the most money. Shocker there.


Bum knees..... wouldn't you?

If he can show he's healed up for any length of time this will not be his last contract.... if the injuries keep coming they it will be. Can't knock him for that can you?


He's already made enough money in his career to be comfortable. If I was him, I'd figure I didn't have a lot of time left so I'd want to actually compete for something rather than playing on a mediocre team that gave me the most money. But hey like I said, no surprise, Bynum has never had the biggest heart.


:freak2: Huh? After dragging his leg around in 2010 and battling back after every single set-back... ?

The guy could have simply retired, but he obviously wants to prove to himself and others that he can contribute.. most guys with the attitude you claim he has would just turn down $6M and move on to.... salsa dancing? :man9:
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby Rooscooter on Fri Jul 12, 2013 5:26 pm

nameant wrote:
Rooscooter wrote:
nameant wrote:So he took the most money. Shocker there.


Bum knees..... wouldn't you?

If he can show he's healed up for any length of time this will not be his last contract.... if the injuries keep coming they it will be. Can't knock him for that can you?


He's already made enough money in his career to be comfortable. If I was him, I'd figure I didn't have a lot of time left so I'd want to actually compete for something rather than playing on a mediocre team that gave me the most money. But hey like I said, no surprise, Bynum has never had the biggest heart.


:man3: .... no heart? He improved into probably the best offensive post player in the game while at the same time losing 3 consecutive summers to rehabilitation. All of that and he still got better each year. Many other players come into this league and never get any better (Howard anyone) and yet Laker fans can't seem to put aside petty hurt and misplaced emotion about this guy and at least acknowledge his progress while being under constant rumored trades, being slammed by the best player on the team (ship is azz out), being not wanted by the coach or GM and recovering from serious injury 4 times?

What's your definition of "heart" anyway?..... and by that definition how many players meet it?

He was humble enough to work with Kareem 3 summers in a row when he could on getting better... He was improved considerably by taking the time to learn from someone better than him. Name another good player that has even worked with an all time great even one offseason to improve. Kareem has offered those same services to at least 5 other big men only to be turned down each time.... yeah.... he's a punk with no heart.

I'm as upset as many here over his comments and some of the dumb things he did but I also acknowledge what I saw with my own eyes in terms of improvement and HEART.... which only a few Lakers have demonstrated over the last 15 years. He played in the playoffs hurt in Kobe's 4th championship.... at risk of permanent damage which may have actually happened.... and he has no heart?...

He did some pretty stupid things and displayed a serious "entitlement attitude".... that's for sure but we've seen just as bad from MWP in the same time frame yet he got a pretty nice "see ya" from Laker fans.....

As for playing for a championship?.... where did he have that chance again? Did Miami make an offer he turned down? It wasn't Dallas or in Philadelphia that's for sure. He followed a young and rising star and he's a punk for taking the most money..... Howard does the same thing for less money and he's what? Run out of town by Kobe or Jimmy?
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby KB24 on Sun Jul 14, 2013 3:57 am

JSM wrote:
Jodie Valade of the Cleveland Plain Dealer wrote:There was no reason to have him work out,” Lee said. “His skill level’s not in question, so there’s no reason to work out. The reality is he has not picked up the ball in some time and he has to get his weight down. He’s got to lose probably about 15 pounds, which is not a big deal. But to get on the floor you’ve got to reduce your weight, otherwise you risk injury.”

Hasn't practiced or kept himself in shape...not a good start for his time in Cleveland. But I bet his bowling game is up to par.

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to be honest though...early in his career he had amazing work ethic....seems like money eased the pain.
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