Bynum Discussion

Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby revgen on Tue Nov 05, 2013 5:28 pm

He's always going to have pain for the rest of his career. Patrick Ewing played at a HOF level with bad knees. What Bynum and the Cleveland doctors are trying to prevent is inflammation and swelling, which kept him off the court in Philly.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby Rooscooter on Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:50 pm

trodgers wrote:Bynum has 10 points, 4 boards, 3 blocks tonight. He's my second favorite NBA player and my most favorite suiting up at present. Glad to see it.


As many know here... I've always appreciated his dedication to come back from injury and his massive growth as a player playing the hardest position on the floor. He developed quite an entitlement attitude toward the end.

If everyone can put aside the way he left here and look at what the gangly 17 year old became by working hard it's actually a pretty good story. Especially when you compare it to a guy that has all of the tools from birth and basically wastes it in Howard. One 10th of what Bynum did to get better in Howard's DNA and he would be unstoppable....
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby XXIV on Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:38 pm

I think we all appreciate what Bynum has done for this franchise over the years. He was there for us on just one leg during the finals and continued to rehab and work his way back after multiple surgeries. However, like you mentioned that attitude he developed really annoyed all of us and it caused some tension.

With that said, I do hope he's able to return to playing significant time in Cleveland and help them towards making the playoffs. He's one of the few true centers left that actually have the size and skill to actually dominate the position.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby lakerfan2 on Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:23 am

Rooscooter wrote:
trodgers wrote:Bynum has 10 points, 4 boards, 3 blocks tonight. He's my second favorite NBA player and my most favorite suiting up at present. Glad to see it.


As many know here... I've always appreciated his dedication to come back from injury and his massive growth as a player playing the hardest position on the floor. He developed quite an entitlement attitude toward the end.

If everyone can put aside the way he left here and look at what the gangly 17 year old became by working hard it's actually a pretty good story. Especially when you compare it to a guy that has all of the tools from birth and basically wastes it in Howard. One 10th of what Bynum did to get better in Howard's DNA and he would be unstoppable....


It's like Shaq split into two players in 2005: Bynum and Dwight.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby Juronimo on Thu Nov 07, 2013 6:41 pm

Check this article on drew on espn

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9942913/andrew-bynum-cleveland-cavaliers-pondering-career

Check this quote:

"Retirement was a thought, it was a serious thought. It still is," Bynum said after the Cavs practice Thursday at Temple University. "It's tough to enjoy the game because of how limited I am physically. I'm working through that. Every now and again I do (think about retirement)…It's still career threatening. I'm a shell of myself on the court right now. I'm just struggling mentally."


Wow, I feel for him.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby revgen on Thu Nov 07, 2013 8:42 pm

I'm amazed that he looks as good as he does despite the limitations. He still draws double-teams when he catches the ball and he's even blocking 1.3 shots a game in 13 minutes per game. That's more blocked shots than Varajao even though Varajao is averaging 31 mpg.

That's how weak the center position is in the NBA. In the 90's, I doubt Bynum would even be hired by a team in his current condition.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby Doc Brown on Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:00 pm

Varejao isn't a shotblocker though. I don't know if that's a fair comparison.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby revgen on Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:20 pm

Doc Brown wrote:Varejao isn't a shotblocker though. I don't know if that's a fair comparison.


I think it is. Varajao is a starting center in today's NBA. He originally came into the NBA as a PF next to Ilgauskas, which Mike Brown eventually wants to do again if Bynum can get healthy again.

The difference between Bynum and Varajo illustrates how weak the center position is in today's game. So many teams, especially in the east, have PF's playing center to fill in a position that lacks in talent.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby therealdeal on Fri Nov 08, 2013 10:49 am

Bynum can't get healthy. It's not his fault, it happens sometimes to big men. It's a similar result as Brandon Roy having no cartilage in his knees even if Bynum doesn't have the same physical problem.

He's admitted it himself that this is something that is CONSTANTLY career threatening. That's just too much to have to have to think about during games and be as effective as he needs to be...

Sad. I feel for the guy. I know he's a little aloof and a little bit of a jerk, but he's still just a kid. Those things happen when you're that age. I think reality is striking home now and it's a serious concern. Not just in basketball but in his life. Those knees are going to hurt forever.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby Jazzygirl205 on Sat Nov 09, 2013 1:15 am

Man this sucks. I hate injuries like these because the athletes can be physically fit, ready to go but their knees continue to hinder them.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby LTLakerFan on Sat Nov 09, 2013 12:40 pm

I saw just a little bit of him on ESPN highlights last night and he looked slow and lumbering still. Not good. And he and Oden were supposed to go at it as great big men for a decade in the West. I'm glad he had the experience he had with the Lakers and the 2 rings to look back on as well as should be set for life with money if he's not stupid with it.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby 432J on Sat Nov 09, 2013 2:09 pm

really terrible news about drew

but even if he does call it quits he goes out with 2 rings under his belt and as one of the best big men in the game for the past 6-7 years. not to mention a huge part of our back to back titles
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby Sirron on Sat Nov 09, 2013 3:38 pm

No reason to mock 76'er fans response as weak. I see he still hasn't learned a some basic behaviors. They paid you umpteen millions, and you didn't even suit up. They boo, and his response is "It was weak"? Wowsers. :man10:
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby revgen on Sat Nov 09, 2013 4:00 pm

Frankly, the boos were weak. The Philly fans were smiling the whole time they were booing. Kwame Brown was booed worse in Staples Center.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby LTLakerFan on Sun Nov 10, 2013 6:03 pm

DNP yesterday. This doesn't look good at all for him. All this time and it still hurts too much to play. My appreciation for him in the good days and for the hard effort he put in to improve his game and come back from the injuries and contribute as much as he could is now outweighing the annoyance at him getting the big head and doing questionable stuff off and sometimes on the court at the end with us.

Remember the "Bynum will never be special" thread? A couple of families of crows had to be eaten by the OP on that one. His potential was clearly visible at the time that thread was launched.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby revgen on Sun Nov 10, 2013 6:53 pm

^Yesterday's game was a b2b game. The Cavs are holding him out on on the backend of b2b games as a matter of policy, regardless of how his knees are feeling. This policy is set by the team doctors. They are bringing him along slowly and monitoring how his knees respond.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby LTLakerFan on Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:53 pm

Ahh….OK thanks
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby Doc Brown on Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:19 pm



Gosh damn do I miss this.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby Rooscooter on Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:33 pm

Doc Brown wrote:

Gosh damn do I miss this.




He looks just fine there. The quickness is there but the lift isn't yet after 18 months of rehab.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby Weezy on Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:13 pm

Man that was freakin nice, one of the last true centers in the game, way to school em Drew.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby LTLakerFan on Tue Nov 12, 2013 12:57 am

Do you think "Clown" ever went to Big Man Camp like Drew did…. twice….right?

Nice to see that!
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby SK8 on Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:31 am

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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby therealdeal on Tue Nov 12, 2013 12:28 pm

He looks alright. That move was nice, but it was missing just a little more strength to help with the balance of it. It looked a little painful which by every account so far it probably was.

It's really nice to see him moving though. I don't know how much longer he can keep it up, but it certainly is nice to see a big man using post moves around the rim.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby revgen on Tue Nov 12, 2013 2:42 pm

@PDcavsinsider 2h

#Cavs center Andrew Bynum will miss the next two games to deal with a personal, family matter. Unrelated to his knees or comments last week


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UPDATE: A. Bynum was excused following practice today to address a family medical matter. He will rejoin the team in WAS on Sat.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby escobar8 on Tue Nov 12, 2013 5:26 pm

i hope everything is ok with his family...

on other side...i am happy to see him still playing...i hope his knees wont give up on him...
if he could play 25min per game and if they get solid SG, cle might even fight for play off spot this year...
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