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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby Scnottaken on Tue Nov 12, 2013 6:21 pm

I do miss watching a big play down low and make good moves. Just something that's been missing in the league.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby 432J on Wed Nov 13, 2013 9:23 am

happy to see him out there instead of dealing with injuries

i do miss him in LA though. not only does he have such a better offensive game than dwight but he can actually make his free throws too. if he hadn't suffered all those knee injuries he'd be a dominating big man today, probably the best in the game
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby MadMax on Wed Nov 13, 2013 9:38 am

The best thing to do with Drew is limit his minutes. He's going to be a force to deal with when he's on the court...he's just gotta stay healthy. Glad to see him out there playing again.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby lakerfan2 on Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:02 am

My favorite thing to do in the 90's was watch the center play. Hakeem, Shaq, David, Patrick, even Vlade. Mostly Hakeem though.

That footwork, the skill, making guys look foolish in the post.

That post move was Hakeem-esque. He definitely looks heavier, but then again, I would prefer to be bigger, but it's not good for his knees I bet.

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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby jlkr on Sat Nov 16, 2013 6:59 pm

On a side note related to the Cavs: looks like Potato Head has just about lost the team... think only Bynum can save him.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby revgen on Sat Nov 16, 2013 7:57 pm

Potato Head is the same awful coach there that he was here.

When players are holding a "players only meeting" 10 games into the season, then it's really bad.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby LTLakerFan on Sat Nov 16, 2013 8:22 pm

:man10: He's probably being All Day Every Day Brown as usual and no one wants to do that crap when you play that hard in this league.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby trodgers on Sun Nov 17, 2013 7:05 am

Cleveland is loaded with talent. A good coach would have them a middle seed.
Irving/Jack
Waiters/Miles
Gee/Clark
Thompson/Bennett
Bynum/Varejao
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby Doc Brown on Sun Nov 17, 2013 7:23 am

Bennett is terrible. They should think about moving Varejao to backup PF (when Bynum plays) and have Zeller back up Bynum. They would get more meaningful minutes out that 4/5 group because Zeller can actually play.

Another thing I notice with the Cavs is that they don't get any production from the small forward position. Clark isn't a small forward and he routinely goes ghost mode for entire games. Gee is a solid player, but seems to play Gee/Clark/Bennett in this 3 way rotation with even split in minutes. Can't do that, have to pick and let the guys get a feel for their role.

Going back to that Bennett pick. If they would have taken a SG/SF instead of a tweener, their rotation would have been a lot easier to handle.

Irving / Jack
Waiters / Oladipo
Gee / Miles
Thompson / Clark
Bynum / Varejao / Zeller

Way more balanced team and everyone is playing in their correct positions.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby Rooscooter on Sun Nov 17, 2013 10:35 am

Production out of the small forward position..... I've forgotten what that looks like
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby XXIV on Sun Nov 17, 2013 12:01 pm

That was a nice possession by Bynum in that video. I constantly use that move when playing pick up games and it usually gets people. I don't understand why other centers don't use it, it's not rocket science.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby wcsoldier81 on Sun Nov 17, 2013 12:54 pm

Cavs 29th in offensive efficiency ... the offensive guru is back at it again
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby XXIV on Sun Nov 17, 2013 5:27 pm

wcsoldier81 wrote:Cavs 29th in offensive efficiency ... the offensive guru is back at it again


It's all about "length." :man10:
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby Doc Brown on Sun Nov 17, 2013 6:10 pm

XXIV wrote:
wcsoldier81 wrote:Cavs 29th in offensive efficiency ... the offensive guru is back at it again


It's all about "length." :man10:


He played Kyrie, Jack and Dellavadova all at once last game. That's the total opposite of length.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby noobiew on Sun Nov 17, 2013 6:23 pm

trodgers wrote:Cleveland is loaded with talent. A good coach would have them a middle seed.

Irving/Jack
Waiters/Miles
Gee/Clark
Thompson/Bennett
Bynum/Varejao


This is a very good team, I don't know how this team would loss to Minnesota for 29 points and also loss to the Bobcats, Mike Brown is a terrible coach.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby Scnottaken on Mon Nov 18, 2013 3:15 am

Doc Brown wrote:
XXIV wrote:
wcsoldier81 wrote:Cavs 29th in offensive efficiency ... the offensive guru is back at it again


It's all about "length." :man10:


He played Kyrie, Jack and Dellavadova all at once last game. That's the total opposite of length.

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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby revgen on Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:16 am

As bad as the Cavs are, they are currently tied for 8th place with Toronto and Boston in the leastern conference.

Meanwhile, the 8th seed in the western conference is a .600 squad (Mavs).

Yeah, I know it's 10 games into the season, but I think this is pretty close to what we're going to be seeing all season.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby thkthebest on Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:22 am

Kyrie's also been pretty bad so far, which has contributed to the Cavs awful offense. He should start picking it up (just had 41 points against the Wizards), but I've read reports that he's been butting heads with Mike Brown. A lot of players are supposedly sick of his act too.

So...Kyrie and Love to LA! :jam2:
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby revgen on Mon Nov 18, 2013 2:02 pm

I think we'll have a better shot picking up Durant than we do Irving.

Cleveland has the advantage of being in the leastern conference. Hence why they are tied for 8th place in the conference despite playing awful. They also have young picks and prospects that they can use to bring in veterans and make key trades. If they can make it to the ECF in that conference (not impossible considering the lack of competition), they may be able to convince Kyrie to stay.

OKC has a bunch of vets, but their picks and prospects are a little thin right now. I don't see them contending anytime soon. At some point they will need to decide whether to keep things as they are or try to rebuild. Durant will be a 9th year vet in 2016. He won't be too interested in doing a rebuilding phase. And if he is going to go through a rebuilding phase, he may prefer a bigger market that offers larger endorsement opportunities.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby revgen on Tue Nov 19, 2013 4:03 am

Here's some stats from the NBA.com stats site.

Bynum is averaging 15.7 mpg through 7 games.

DEFENSIVE

BLK - 1.3
Opponent FG% at the rim - 36.8 FG%
REB - 4.0
Reb% - 14.7%
Percentage of Rebounds Per Chance - 60.9%
REB Chances per game - 6.6
Contested Rebound Per Game - 2.1
Uncontested Rebound Per Game - 1.9
Contested Rebound Percentage - 53.6%

OFFENSIVE

PPG - 6.1
eFG% - 34.1
TS% - 44.8%
Close Shots Per Game - 1.9
Close Shot FG% - 25FG%
Catch and Shoot Shots Per Game - 0.9
Catch and Shoot FG% - 60FG%
APG - 0.9
Passes Per Game - 16
Assist Opportunities Per Game - 1.6
Points Created By Assist Per Game - 1.7
AST% - 10.3%
TOV - 1.3
AST/TOV - 0.67
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby revgen on Sat Nov 23, 2013 9:08 pm

Bynum scored a season high 16 points, 8-15 shooting (53FG%), against the Spurs in 20 minutes. He was the Cavs leading scorer despite playing only limited minutes. The Spurs decided not to double him. He would have definitely had more than 20 if he played 35 minutes.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby Rooscooter on Tue Nov 26, 2013 4:57 pm

^^Saw most of that and all of Bynum's minutes. He looks to be rounding into shape. He looked no different than his last couple of months with us.

They are taking it very slow with him and for good reason. When he's on the floor he's a game changer for them.

Of more concern is what the H has happened to Irving…. he looks like Brandon Jennings all of a sudden…..
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby karacha on Tue Nov 26, 2013 8:41 pm

^

He and Mike Brown have some... issues.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby revgen on Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:28 pm

Kyrie is trying to learn how to play with others.

Great as he is, he's yet to play more than 59 games in a season. That's because almost every play was run through him during his first two seasons. Brown, in an effort to try to keep him healthy, wants some of the offensive load to be shared with Bynum. However, the offensive system that Brown has come up with leaves a lot to be desired.
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Re: Bynum Discussion: signs with Cavs (p. 298)

Postby Doc Brown on Sat Nov 30, 2013 7:53 pm

20/10/5 in 30 minutes. Best part was, he was laughing and looked like he was finally getting to enjoy basketball again.
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