Doc Brown wrote:Lin = Overpaid
Doc Brown wrote:Lin = Overpaid
therealdeal wrote:abeer3 wrote:therealdeal wrote:Interesting.
I just don't see Smith making that kind of bank in other cities. Where else is he going to get paid like that AND be part of a good team? There's not many teams this summer with money to spare.
you sure about that? i think lots of teams have cash this summer. my quick count says at least 16 teams should have something more than 10 million to spend. granted, several of these teams probably need to retain their own guys, but still...there's money to be had. with smith being one of the top free agents available, you'd think he'd have a good shot at getting paid big.
I meant teams willing to give him 3/45 million type of money. How many of the 16 teams want Smith at that price? If you can name 5 teams that want him and that would be a good/better fit than Atlanta I'll be surprised.
Josh Smith Wants To Explore Options In Free Agency
By Jeff Schultz - The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
When the cameras were on and media members stood two-deep around his locker, Josh Smith said what he was expected to say. He stunk, his team stunk and he hadn’t hadn’t even had time to think yet about whether his Hawks’ career was over or impending free agency because the season had just ended.
When the cameras were turned off and almost everybody, Josh Smith said what he really thought. Of course he knew this was probably it.
“As I walked off the court, everything just sort of hit me,” the Hawks’ forward said late Friday night. “Just the uncertainty of what the future holds. Just thinking about all of the relationships I’ve had here and the people who’ve crossed my path since I’ve been here. I just … I just don’t know.”
Does he want to come back?
“The only thing I know is I want to be able to experience free agency. I want to explore my options and see what’s out there. I don’t have any certain idea what’s going to happen.”
He didn’t sound like a guy eager to return. The fact most in attendance Friday night didn’t sound eager for him to be back — screaming the usual “Nooooooooos!” when he pulled up for jumpers and booed when he missed — speaks volumes about the situation.
The Hawks’ season ended Friday night. They lost 81-73 to the Indiana Pacers, losing the best-of-seven playoff series in six games.
There is no shortage of reasons why they’re done. Sharing dishonors at the top of the list: a one-basket/nine-point second quarter, a 15-minute stretch of the second and third quarter without a field goal going through the basket (the only hoop coming on a goaltending call) and the Hawks collectively shooting 33.3 percent.
The Hawks should have played like a desperate team. Instead, they just played like a defeated team. They were being blown out and booed in Philips Arena – which was only two-thirds filled, even if the Pinocchios in marketing and ownership called it a sellout – until coming to life in the last six minutes. (Too late.)
But the worst of the worse was Smith, and he knew it. If this was Smith’s final game as a Hawk – and that’s the guess here – it was as ugly of an ending as Chipper Jones’ final game with the Braves.
The difference: Jones didn’t get booed and slid into retirement as a franchise icon. Smith slides into free agency still a polarizing figure after nine seasons in Atlanta.
He shot five for 16 on a 14-point night, four-turnover night. He took the Hawks’ first shot of the night (a missed 22-footer). He missed seven of his first eight attempts. He threw away two passes in the first two and a half minutes of the second quarter.
With only 43 seconds left and Indiana leading 78-73, Smith fired up a three-point attempt (“Nooooo!”) that was partially blocked by David West.
Smith and his defense against Paul George was the biggest reason the Hawks won two games in this series. He scored 29 points in Game 4. But he scored only 14 points in each of the next two games and shot a combined 10 for 32.
How much Smith’s shooting was because of poor decision making — the fans’ vote — and how much could be attributed to health reasons is uncertain. Smith conceded that the sprained ankle he suffered late in Game 2 bothered him the remainder of the series and hindered his ability to drive to the basket.
But that doesn’t explain everything. “My shot just wasn’t going,” he said.
Hawks coach Larry Drew, who has his own future to worry about, defended Smith.
“As a team, we didn’t do a good job with our shot selection. We settled. It wasn’t just Josh Smith,” he said.
“Josh Smith, we need to remember, while a lot of people talk about his shot selection, he brings a lot of other things to the table. His effort against an All-Star, Paul George, was absolutely phenomenal. Josh is a versatile guy. He brings a lot to the table.”
The backdrop suggests he’ll be bringing all aspects of his game, both positive and negative, to another team’s table next season. Smith is worn down being the lightning rod in Atlanta whenever something goes wrong with this team. He has been for a while.
Forget Smith previous comments about viewing himself as a max money player. If another team offers anything close to what the Hawks offer, Smith almost certainly will be gone.
Asked what he would say to fans to if this was his final game, Smith said, “If this was it, I’ll say something when it happens.”
I’m expecting that to happen. And it’s safe to say this wasn’t the way he wanted to go out.
abeer3 wrote:yes, that's what my earlier comments were about. lots of money out there, very few really good players available. smith will get paid. maybe not max, but close enough for a wtf.
JSM wrote:I think he'll get the max. He doesn't care where he goes, he wants cash. Small teams will see him as a seat filler.
Hawks To Seek Sign-And-Trade Scenarios For Josh Smith
The Atlanta Hawks enter the offseason with Josh Smith's free agency amongst their most pressing issues.
The Hawks will likely seek sign-and-trade packages involving Smith in order to receive assets in return.
The Hawks also have cap space and are expected to pursue Dwight Howard.
Smith will be an unrestricted free agent.
Celtics Have Plan For Josh Smith Sign-And-Trade Deal?
By Scott Schroeder on Jun 25 2013, 1:48p
Josh Smith could move to the Boston Celtics in a sign-and-trade deal once NBA free agency begins, according to Sean Deveney from Sporting News. The Celtics would only be able to bring Smith in if they're able to create a trade exception by moving Paul Pierce, though.
Despite being in the process of rebuilding, Boston isn't scheduled to have a ton of room for free-agent signings this summer. If the Celtics are able to net a trade exception by sending Pierce -- who is owed $15 million if not bought out for $5 million by the end of the week -- to a team that can take on his salary, however, it'd open more room for the Celtics to trade for a big name like Smith.
And, according to our friends over at CelticsBlog, the fan base wouldn't mind seeing Smith move to the Celtics:Last summer, he joined the Celtics in L.A. for pre-season workouts, due mainly to his friendship with Rajon Rondo. He's a pogo stick in a bull's body, but the biggest question is whether or not he's a franchise player. His shot selection leaves a little to be desired, but paired with a pass-first PG, that could definitely change in Boston. If KG decides to close out his career in green, he could do wonders tutoring Smoove in the Celtic way.
Deveney reports that the two teams most likely able and willing to help Boston get this deal done are either the Cleveland Cavaliers or Milwaukee Bucks. It sounds as though Cleveland isn't that big on the deal, though, and Milwaukee might be able to make a play for Smith themselves, too, instead of just helping Boston acquire him.
Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo wrote:Detroit Pistons general manager Joe Dumars met with Atlanta Hawks forward Josh Smith at 12:01 a.m. ET with a plan to make the free agent forward a substantial four-year offer, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.
Atlanta has shown far more interest in working sign-and-trade arrangements for Smith than re-signing him to a long-term deal, league sources said.
Along with re-signing point guard Jose Calderon, Smith is the Pistons' top priority on the market, league sources told Y! Sports.
The Pistons planned to make a preemptive strike on Smith, understanding that he's a secondary priority for several teams awaiting the resolution of the Dwight Howard derby, sources said.
Smith, 27, is one of the free-agent stars on the market, a versatile 6-foot-9 forward that Dumars would add to a frontline that includes Greg Monroe and Andre Drummond. Smith averaged 17.5 points, 8.4 rebounds and 4.2 assists for the Hawks this past season.
Dumars also will meet with forward Andre Iguodala on Monday in Los Angeles, but it's doubtful the Pistons have the willingness to outbid Denver to sign him. Denver GM Tim Connelly and coach Brian Shaw plan to meet with Iguodala in Los Angeles on Monday and present him with a contract extension, league sources told Y! Sports.
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Rajon Rondo, who was upset after seeing Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce dealt, wants Josh Smith in Boston. They were teammates in high school.
Marc Spears of Yahoo wrote:Atlanta Hawks free-agent forward Josh Smith won’t decide where to sign until after the Fourth of July holiday weekend, at the earliest, a league source told Yahoo! Sports.
Smith left Los Angeles to return to his hometown of Atlanta on Wednesday after meeting with the Houston Rockets and Detroit Pistons. He isn’t in a rush to decide, the source said.
The decision of Los Angeles Lakers center Dwight Howard also plays a role in Smith’s future. The Rockets have told Smith that if they don’t land Howard, they will attempt to sign him next, a source said. The Hawks also could pursue a sign-and-trade to get something in return for Smith leaving.
The Dallas Mavericks met with Howard and have spoken to Philadelphia 76ers free-agent center Andrew Bynum, but they have not met with Smith since the start of free agency, a league source said.
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