Center Position Being Removed From All-Star Ballot

Center Position Being Removed From All-Star Ballot

Postby JSM on Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:22 am

David Aldridge of NBA.com wrote: The NBA is finally doing something about the Duncan Dilemma.

The league will announce Wednesday a change to its All-Star ballot that will, for the first time, allow fans to vote for three undefined "frontcourt" players instead of having to vote for two forwards and a center. With more and more teams playing smaller than in the past, the definition of "center" was becoming increasingly difficult -- not to mention finding enough quality big men for whom to vote.

For years, for example, the Spurs have listed Tim Duncan as a power forward, even though everyone on earth knew he was their starting center. And so when it came to All-Star balloting, Duncan would take up a forward spot in a very crowded field of Western Conference stars instead of his logical spot in the middle. This was good for Duncan, who surely would have made his 13 All-Star teams anyway, but it often cost another forward a shot.

The league decided to make the change after the NBA's Competition Committee agreed to the move at its meeting last month, VP of Basketball Operations Stu Jackson said Tuesday evening.

"It makes sense," Jackson said. "It made sense to our Competition Committee. Having a center is the only specific position that was singled out on the ballot. It just seemed a little outdated and didn't represent the way our game has evolved. By the same token, it also affords the same opportunity, if you have two good centers in a given year, pick 'em both. They both can be selected. Which is impossible right now."

That would be good news for players like Boston's Kevin Garnett and Miami's Chris Bosh, nominal forwards who are now playing center for their respective teams. Under the old rules, Garnett and Bosh would have been in the center category with the likes of Philadelphia's Andrew Bynum, Atlanta's Al Horford and Indiana's Roy Hibbert. Now, any of them can be selected as a "frontcourt" player.

"It was something that we originally thought made some sense, but we didn't want to make a decision in a vacuum, of course," Jackson said. "We ran it by the Competition Committee and they thought the idea made some sense ... it gives the fans some flexibility while keeping competitive balance."

The league will debut the 2013 All-Star ballot on Nov. 13. Players are selected for the ballot by a committee of national media who cover the NBA on a regular basis. The 2013 All-Star Game will be Feb. 17 at the Toyota Center in Houston.
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Re: Center Position Being Removed From All-Star Ballot

Postby therealdeal on Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:11 am

This has nothing to do with Duncan and everything to do with the Heat. They need a way to get all 3 of those guys in and having Bosh as a "forward" or as a "center" reduces that chance.

Duncan might get a mercy vote in, but he probably won't go this season behind Howard, Love, Nowitzki, maybe Pau, and of course Griffin.

I'm not against it by any means, but Aldridge shouldn't even include the bit about Duncan. It's inconsequential to the ruling. This was about Garnett and Bosh all the way.
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Re: Center Position Being Removed From All-Star Ballot

Postby revgen on Wed Oct 24, 2012 11:13 am

Having a center is the only specific position that was singled out on the ballot. It just seemed a little outdated and didn't represent the way our game has devolved.


Fixed. The game hasn't evolved. It's devolved to a game where perimeter players dominate with "no touch" rules. Why go into the paint when you don't have to feel contact on the perimeter?

In general, I agree with him. The all-star game is all about the fans choosing their favorite player. Always has been.
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Re: Center Position Being Removed From All-Star Ballot

Postby Rooscooter on Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:31 pm

By that reasoning why have Guards and Forwards?..... it it's a popularity contest why not make way for the most popular regardless of tradition?....

I've gotten to where I can't stand the All Star Weekend..... It's so over the top anymore and is topped off with horrible basketball and kind of dumb "skills" contests......
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Re: Center Position Being Removed From All-Star Ballot

Postby thkthebest on Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:58 pm

Rooscooter wrote:By that reasoning why have Guards and Forwards?..... it it's a popularity contest why not make way for the most popular regardless of tradition?....

Imo, they should get rid of positions. I'm not sure why the NBA hasn't. I also think the All-NBA teams should just be the top 5 best players.
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Re: Center Position Being Removed From All-Star Ballot

Postby GinoDB on Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:09 pm

screws Bynum, that is all this does and it was pointless imo as Dwight is a lock no matter what rules are in place.and what happens with 1 position o the east doesnt matter
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Re: Center Position Being Removed From All-Star Ballot

Postby KB&AB on Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:54 pm

I know Kevin Durant probably will never leave the thunders. but just imagine if Kevin Durant demands a trade and he ends up in the east, I guarantee the fans are going to vote LeBron, Melo and Durant. So one of them has to play center against Dwight Howard lol
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Re: Center Position Being Removed From All-Star Ballot

Postby Weezy on Thu Oct 25, 2012 2:05 am

I kind of get it, I mean there's only really a handful of true centers in the game still, having that position gone from being a mandatory vote opens the All-Star spots up to all bigs who deserve it.
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Re: Center Position Being Removed From All-Star Ballot

Postby KareemTheGreat33 on Thu Oct 25, 2012 6:25 am

To prevent someone like Jamal Magloire getting into the all star game...oops too late
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Re: Center Position Being Removed From All-Star Ballot

Postby kenzo on Thu Oct 25, 2012 6:34 am

Poor Bynum...
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Re: Center Position Being Removed From All-Star Ballot

Postby nameant on Thu Oct 25, 2012 6:58 am

Well I guess it's official....centers are dead.
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Re: Center Position Being Removed From All-Star Ballot

Postby V.V.V.V.V. on Thu Oct 25, 2012 6:03 pm

Bynum won't get in now.

LeBron, Bosh, Amare, Garnett, Pierce, Melo. Centers will eat last after those guys.
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