Chalmers thinks he is in the ‘front end’ of the top 10 PGs

Chalmers thinks he is in the ‘front end’ of the top 10 PGs

Postby Big Mamma Jamma on Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:36 pm

Mario Chalmers thinks he is in the ‘front end’ of the top 10 point guards in the NBA
By Dan Devine

It's been established that Miami Heat point guard Mario Chalmers is a pretty confident dude. Even though he plays alongside regular-season and NBA Finals MVP LeBron James and seven-time All-NBA selection Dwyane Wade, the former Kansas star seems to think of himself as the best player on the court, which is both why his Heat teammates always seem to be yelling at him and why he never seems unwilling to step into big shots at big moments in games featuring much bigger names than his own. Apparently, that self-assurance extends into the offseason.

During a recent appearance in Queens, N.Y., to visit the winner of Spalding's "Arena to Driveway" promotion — remember, Mario rocks Spaldings on the floor, which his well-heeled Heat teammates find pretty hilarious — Chalmers sat down with Bleacher Report's Peter Emerick for a catch-all summer recap interview that touched on topics like offseason training, Dwight Howard and Steve Nash joining the Los Angeles Lakers, and Miami importing shooters Ray Allen and Rashard Lewis.

Chalmers' most interesting comments, though, came in response to a recent statement reportedly made by one of his most frequent Eastern Conference adversaries:

Peter Emerick: "Rajon Rondo recently said that he's the NBA's top point guard. What are your thoughts on that, and where do you think you rank among all the point guards in the NBA?"

Mario Chalmers: "He's not the best, but he's in the top five. There are a lot of great point guards in the league, Deron Williams, Chris Paul and Steve Nash. There are a lot of great guards in the NBA so for him to say he's the best is a pretty bold statement. I'd say that I [Mario Chalmers] am in the front end of the top 10."


Before we get to the argument side of this coin, let's all pause for a second and applaud Chalmers for handily and stylishly winning this particular Bold Statement Contest.

It's one thing to say that a competitor isn't as good as he thinks he is, even though said competitor is a three-time All-Star who has dished the second-most assists in the NBA over the past four years (Rondo's 2,833 dimes trail only Nash's 3,128), has four straight All-Defensive Team selections to his credit and a owns track record of amazing performances in big games. It is QUITE ANOTHER INDEED to then immediately assert your own claim to nearly-as-lofty status, based solely, it seems, on gall. That's some good gumption, Mario. Nicely done.

That said: The "Who's the best point guard in the NBA?" debate is always fun specifically because you can make arguments for a variety of guys in a variety of contexts — for my money, no point guard controls a game as completely and as brilliantly as CP3 — but reasonable people can differ on that score for a million reasons. If you agree with Rondo's self-assessment and think his defense, big-game performances and laundry list of double-digit assist games bumps him up the list, you can make a sound case for it without anyone trying to toss a straightjacket on you.

The same can't be said, though, for Chalmers' estimation. You're the kind of person who's reading an NBA blog while MLB pennant races are in full swing and college football is less than three days from kicking off — you're pretty well aware that Chalmers isn't a top-10 NBA point guard, let alone "in the front end of the top 10."
You might not know that, among the 67 point guards who played at least 6.1 minutes per game last season, Chalmers ranked 48th in Player Efficiency Rating and 43rd in Estimated Wins Added, according to ESPN.com's John Hollinger, but you know he's not a top-10 NBA point guard, irrespective of which guy tops your list, because you know that Paul, Williams, Rondo, Nash, Derrick Rose, Tony Parker, Russell Westbrook, Ty Lawson, Kyrie Irving and Stephen Curry all exist. Even the biggest Heat fans in the world would have a difficult time arguing with a straight face that they'd rather have Mario Chalmers than any of those 10 players.

You might have an argument if we're talking about 11 through 20, because then you'd have to consider how much Chalmers' often-solid on-ball defense (especially on ball-handlers in the pick and roll, which is how opponents most frequently attacked him last year, according to play-tracking data from Synergy Sports Technology) and 3-point shooting (a career-high 38.8 percent last year, good for 36th in the league and 11th among point guards) mitigate his weak 1.56-1 assist-to-turnover ratio and generally unremarkable play.
But are Chalmers' 3-and-D talents enough to slot him in ahead of/on par with skilled and steady vets like Mike Conley, Kyle Lowry, Andre Miller and Jose Calderon, developing playoff-caliber points like Jrue Holiday, Jeff Teague and Goran Dragic, or more purely talented but often erratic players like John Wall, Ricky Rubio and Brandon Jennings? You could argue that he works just fine for what Miami wants him to be, given that coach Erik Spoelstra obviously (and understandably) prefers running offense through James, Wade and Bosh, and just wants someone to D up and hit open jumpers. But from a pure "who'd you rather have?" point of view? It's hard to say he's "in the front of" that second set, either.

A charitable analysis would probably slot Chalmers in as a middle-of-the-pack NBA point guard, capable of being a supplemental scorer and facilitator who occasionally pops for a big night (to wit: 25 on 15 shots in Game 4) but mostly just lives on the margins; a more sober viewing could drop him down into the bottom third of NBA starters. Luckily for Heat fans, Chalmers doesn't believe a word of that; frankly, with the Heat coming off a title and looking poised to play big games late into the spring again this coming season, that unyielding (and largely unfounded) confidence is probably his greatest asset.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/mario-chalmers-thinks-front-end-top-10-point-163334875--nba.html


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Re: Chalmers thinks he is in the ‘front end’ of the top 10 PGs

Postby Battle Tested20 on Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:43 pm

o ok so just because you hit big shots the NCAA Tourney to win a championship and hit some wide open 3's in the NBA Playoffs and Finals your a top 10 PG....

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Re: Chalmers thinks he is in the ‘front end’ of the top 10 PGs

Postby XXIV on Thu Aug 30, 2012 7:15 pm

I understand he's confident and all, but this is just plain dumb.
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Postby Texas Lakers Fan on Thu Aug 30, 2012 7:23 pm

He's a solid point guard, but definitely not elite.
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Postby Finwë on Thu Aug 30, 2012 7:30 pm

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Re: Chalmers thinks he is in the ‘front end’ of the top 10 PGs

Postby Balance&Options24 on Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:08 pm

He has no duties of pg. That's basically Lebron's job.
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Postby therealdeal on Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:48 pm

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Postby Congo Cash on Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:05 pm

I find him mediocre, and that's being generous...
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Re: Chalmers thinks he is in the ‘front end’ of the top 10 PGs

Postby John3:16 on Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:27 pm

I love the confidence.

He's wrong though.
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Re: Chalmers thinks he is in the ‘front end’ of the top 10 PGs

Postby Frank Dux on Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:38 am

So an undersized 2 guard(You could even say Derek Fisheresque) is among the top point guards(guys that actually run their teams offense) in the league.




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Re: Chalmers thinks he is in the ‘front end’ of the top 10 PGs

Postby thkthebest on Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:59 am

Yea, he's definitely not top 10, but if I had to give Chalmers credit for something, it's his ability to hit clutch shots. It might have to do with his unrealistically high confidence, but he's able to hit big shots.

Anyway, I guess even though he's not a top tier PG, he has won at the high school, college, and NBA level. He has a "reason" to be arrogant. Former Lakers Jordan Farmar is similar in that sense. :man10:
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Postby CaCHooKa Man on Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:40 am

hes definitely top 10.. top 10 of the bottom of all starting PGs in the NBA
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Postby wcsoldier81 on Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:10 am

Not top10 ... but he's good at taking advantage of the spaces created by the BIG 3 in the opponent D ... he had 3 20+pts games in the playoffs , solid defender ... still inconsistent but he's a solid role player ... and perfect fit for them

I would had taken him over Blake and Sessions for our 2011-2012 team without a doubt
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Postby gill on Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:31 am

He's not even the top PG on his own team. :freak2:
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Postby Forklift on Fri Aug 31, 2012 11:14 am

Maybe he was being sarcastic.... i hope he was being sarcastic.... :freak2:
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Postby Rooscooter on Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:01 pm

Did he actually say that Rondo's statement was "Bold"....... and then followed it up with saying he's a top 5 PG...... :man10: I'd say Rondo's statement is defendable....... his.... well..... is laughable..

His job is similar to Fisher's was for the Lakers..... bring the ball up the court ever 3rd possession and hit the occasional wide open shot..... Put him on a team where he's the primary ball handler and decision maker and he's somewhere between 15 and 20 IMHO....
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Re: Chalmers thinks he is in the ‘front end’ of the top 10 PGs

Postby Phil XI on Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:21 pm

Well he has been known to go Robert Parish on the lettuce so perhaps he was just free flowing?

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Postby Wrath12X on Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:26 pm

:man10: He's a good player in the clutch, but top 10?!?!? Whatever
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Postby FabFourLakers on Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:37 pm

I admire his confidence, and that's probably why he's the starting PG for the HEAT...he's kinda cocky and he hits big shots. He does remind me of Rondo...not his game, but his attitude towards it. Can he become as good as Rondo? Probably not. But his playmaking has improved and his defense is solid, and he's already a better shooter than Rondo. Not saying that he can crack top 10 PG's but if he has this kind of confidence, I wouldn't be laughing at his statement....but with all that being said, he is not top 10, at least not yet. But he's solid and exactly what the HEAT need at that spot.
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Postby Texas Lakers Fan on Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:54 pm

gill wrote:He's not even the top PG on his own team. :freak2:

He most definitely is. He's a solid player. Not an All Star or a top 10 player, but he's a solid role player.
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Postby Weezy on Fri Aug 31, 2012 8:55 pm

I guess I understand that it takes extreme confidence to make it at the NBA level, but front end of the top 10 wow. I would call him a decent to good starting PG, top 20 maybe, would have to see a list of all starting PG's.
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Postby Doc Brown on Fri Aug 31, 2012 10:32 pm

CP3 / Deron / Nash / Rondo / Curry / Westbrook / Parker / Lawson / Wall / Dragic / Jennings / Rubio / Conley / Holiday / Teague.....

Yea.....not even top 15 (no specific order).....next in Calderon / Miller / Nelson / Williams....

He's on Ramon Sessions / Kemba Walker / Darren Collison level (20-23)
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