Chris Bosh: I'm a Hall of Famer

Chris Bosh: I'm a Hall of Famer

Postby Kobe8Fan on Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:47 am

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By Kelly Dwyer | Ball Don't Lie – Mon, Jan 28, 2013 9:00 AM EST

Since his jump to Miami in 2010, eight-time All-Star forward/center Chris Bosh has turned into a bit of a punch line. His smart batch of humor, slender build of frame, and status as a distant third among the Heat’s Big Three triptych including LeBron James and Dwyane Wade allow for that. Bosh, working on a championship defender and out of the city of his choice, doesn’t seem to mind. It’s a refreshing nuance, stuck in the middle of a league that at times seems to be full of insecure types that hedge their quotes.

This is probably why Bosh didn’t hesitate for a second to call himself “a Hall of Famer” in a discussion with FOX Sports’ Chris Tomasson on Friday night. Chris’ borderline-stunning take can be found here:

"Hell, yeah, of course. I've been a Hall of Famer like four years ago," the Miami Heat center told FOX Sports Florida after Friday's 110-88 victory over Detroit. "And I say that very serious, though. I've talked about it before with my friends."

This is “borderline stunning” because modern athletes are conditioned not to speak like this. To not speak out about legacy, no matter how sober the take. There’s a reason that the line “excuse me while I take my first step toward the Hall of Fame” was penned for Willie Mays Hayes in ‘Major League’ as a joke. As hubris to be mocked.

Is Bosh to be mocked? The guy knows his media, he’s aware that saying something like this to Tomasson will surely get around once pen leads to paper, which leads to modem and social media, and he’s obviously aware that some people still view him as a poorly-rebounding hanger-on with the Heat’s top tier.

He’s not wrong, though.

He may feel like a newcomer of sorts, but Chris Bosh was drafted into the NBA nearly 10 years ago. He’s in his 10th season, and he’s played fantastic basketball throughout his career. Whether he was working by his lonesome in Toronto or hungering for scraps in Miami, Bosh has remained a potent offensive performer that can rebound and help defensively with his length. At just 28 years of age, he’s already amassed nearly 13,500 career points.

Of course, we have no idea what that number means. Basketball just doesn’t have the sort of end-all numerical touchstones that baseball does. There’s no “500 homers” or “3,000 hits” or “wasn’t listed in the Mitchell Report” that allows us to sign off on a potential Hall of Famer midway through his career. Toss in the NCAA and international influence (to say nothing of shoe company heavy-handedness) on the Basketball Hall of Fame’s voting process, and it’s really hard to get a grasp on who will get in some years down the line, and who won’t.

Bosh turns 29 in a couple of months, though. His touch and smarts will allow for him, health-willing, to remain an All-Star level contributor for perhaps another half-decade. All-Star appearances shouldn’t be a barometer of greatness, both fans and coaches can get these things wrong, but Bosh’s efficient work and ability to either pick up the pieces on a great team or hold his own on a terrible team should be in place well into his 30s.

Bosh's career averages round out to nearly 20 points per game and nine rebounds, while shooting 49 percent. His per-game averages have dipped for three consecutive years, but that’s sort of par for the course when you line up with two of the biggest ball dominators in the game in LeBron James and Dwyane Wade. Bosh’s minutes have dipped since he’s hit Miami as well, the coaching staff’s nod to the fact that they need their big man to be fresh in June and not dragging it out in January. All of these hallmarks hurt the raw numbers, but they don’t blur the overall picture. If Chris Bosh continues apace for the next five or six years, he’ll be a deserved Hall of Famer.

And to preemptively take on the critics … what’s wrong with a player admitting as much?

We want these players to exude confidence, to bathe in bravado and pretend like nothing can get to them. Up until a point – a nebulous point – where we hold our nose and complain about confidence or cockiness gone wrong. We want these guys to not only play like Hall of Famers, but act like one as well. But heaven forbid these guys actually say what we’re already talking about online or on a barstool – that Chris Bosh will probably end up in the Hall of Fame some day, and that this reality was already in place “like four years ago.”

Keep talking, Chris Bosh, because we dig your honesty. And keep playing Hall of Fame-basketball, because we’re more than happy with your career arc. Someday Springfield will be as happy as we are, we’re guessing.


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Re: Chris Bosh: I'm a Hall of Famer

Postby revgen on Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:49 am

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Re: Chris Bosh: I'm a Hall of Famer

Postby therealdeal on Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:51 am

Uh wut?
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Re: Chris Bosh: I'm a Hall of Famer

Postby pound4pound1 on Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:00 pm

LOL



really...LOL
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Re: Chris Bosh: I'm a Hall of Famer

Postby Weezy on Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:16 pm

The point was made on PTI that only one 8 time all star has not gotten in the hall of game, and Bosh is an 8 time all star. Well I don't known the overall criteria, but if you ask me if I think hall of game when Bosh is brought up the answer is no. He's very good, but he was the lone good player getting big numbers for a crap franchise for years, and then the 3rd guy for one championship team. To me he's no different than David West except he's been lucky to be less injured.
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Re: Chris Bosh: I'm a Hall of Famer

Postby The Rock on Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:20 pm

He is right. He is gonna be a hall of famer. Just like Pau hes soft and has a finesse game but his resume speak for itself. Not many players out there have 1 gold medal, 1 NBA title, 8 All star team selections while being 28 years old. Hes probably the best jump shooting Power Forward ever after Dirk
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Re: Chris Bosh: I'm a Hall of Famer

Postby Weezy on Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:27 pm

Whoa whoa whoa, ever Rock? He can shoot, but ever? Think about some of the all time greats that could shoot, Malone was absolute money from 15 to 20 feet for example. And I'll say it again, how is Bosh better than David West other than health, his jumpshot is money as well.
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Re: Chris Bosh: I'm a Hall of Famer

Postby V.V.V.V.V. on Tue Jan 29, 2013 5:19 pm

8-time all-star means you've been a star in the league for nearly a decade. That qualifies you for the Hall of fame IMO, even if you're not the first option on your team. I hope the Hall makes him sweat for a few years over it, for hubris sake.
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Re: Chris Bosh: I'm a Hall of Famer

Postby therealdeal on Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:06 pm

This man does not deserve a Hall of Fame vote at this point in his career unless it's a VERY soft year for the Hall of Fame.
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Re: Chris Bosh: I'm a Hall of Famer

Postby Maluco Beleza on Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:23 pm

wow hall of fame is a joke now cause everyone thinks they should be HOF even alot of old school players think they should be and it seems espn and the media thrown around everyones name in there.

to me HOF should be Kobe type players.... but whatever
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Re: Chris Bosh: I'm a Hall of Famer

Postby Big Mamma Jamma on Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:24 pm

The Rock wrote:He is right. He is gonna be a hall of famer. Just like Pau hes soft and has a finesse game but his resume speak for itself. Not many players out there have 1 gold medal, 1 NBA title, 8 All star team selections while being 28 years old. Hes probably the best jump shooting Power Forward ever after Dirk


I would say Kevin Garnett or Malone would be after Dirk not Rupaul. As much as I hate Garnett, he is just automatic with his jumper.
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Re: Chris Bosh: I'm a Hall of Famer

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:53 pm

With the lower standards of Media competency I would say that Bosh is into the HOF.
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Re: Chris Bosh: I'm a Hall of Famer

Postby 432J on Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:21 pm

the dinosaur hall of fame?
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Re: Chris Bosh: I'm a Hall of Famer

Postby Finwë on Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:09 pm

Nah.
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Re: Chris Bosh: I'm a Hall of Famer

Postby The Rock on Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:03 am

Alright I'll give you guys Malone as a better jumpshooter at the PF but theres not many other than Chris Bosh that has played. KG as a better jumpshooter? No way. Remember hte 08 and 10 finals I remember KG would have the deer in the headlights look with the ball in his hands he would put up open brick after open brick after open brick out in the perimeter. Garnett is a phenomenal defender though.
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Re: Chris Bosh: I'm a Hall of Famer

Postby kenzo on Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:29 am

His Championship celabration should get him in to the HOF alone :man9:
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Re: Chris Bosh: I'm a Hall of Famer

Postby Congo Cash on Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:35 am

Hey, with the low standard of the basketball HoF, why not?
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Re: Chris Bosh: I'm a Hall of Famer

Postby thkthebest on Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:04 am

He'll probably make the hall of fame.
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Re: Chris Bosh: I'm a Hall of Famer

Postby wcsoldier81 on Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:33 am

A Brazzers and Maxim hall of famer ? No doubt about that
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Re: Chris Bosh: I'm a Hall of Famer

Postby wcsoldier81 on Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:57 am

The Rock wrote:He is right. He is gonna be a hall of famer. Just like Pau hes soft and has a finesse game but his resume speak for itself. Not many players out there have 1 gold medal, 1 NBA title, 8 All star team selections while being 28 years old. Hes probably the best jump shooting Power Forward ever after Dirk


Prime Pau is a better player than prime Bosh ... not close


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Bosh from 16 to 23 feet from the 2012-2013 to 2003-2044 season ( career) : 44.6%
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Re: Chris Bosh: I'm a Hall of Famer

Postby wcsoldier81 on Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:11 am

Weezy wrote:Whoa whoa whoa, ever Rock? He can shoot, but ever? Think about some of the all time greats that could shoot, Malone was absolute money from 15 to 20 feet for example. And I'll say it again, how is Bosh better than David West other than health, his jumpshot is money as well.


yep West is a 45.6% midrange shooter in his career ... in his 10th season ( same as Bosh )

Last 10 seasons from 16 to 23 feet

Dirk : 48%
West : 45.6%
KG : 45%
Bosh 44.6%
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Re: Chris Bosh: I'm a Hall of Famer

Postby Rooscooter on Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:58 am

The HOF has become more about popularity than actual achievement. Maybe it always has been. Guys like Worthy and Parish were first ballot HOF'ers based on their team's accomplishments not their individual accomplishments. Worthy probably had the third worst career out of the 3 great forwards drafted in 82. Wilkins didn't get in on the first ballot and Cummins isn't in at all. Of the three Cummings was probably the best overall player and had the longest career. Wilkins was an offensive force over 17 seasons. Worthy's teams did better but that shouldn't be a consideration IMHO. It's an individual achievement to be in the HOF......

Parish had a decent career but I'm not sure he's a first ballot guy if he didn't play in Boston.

It's becoming less and less about the player and more and more about the popularity of the player and the team accomplishments. On that basis Bosh is a HOF'er..... easily IMO.
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Re: Chris Bosh: I'm a Hall of Famer

Postby John3:16 on Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:07 am

I'm not a fan of Bosh or his game, but considering his credentials...... yeah, he's right.
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Re: Chris Bosh: I'm a Hall of Famer

Postby LALShowtime on Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:36 am

if he makes it than chris webber and Paul Pierce should get in by default.

i put KG and Duncan in the HOF lock catogory

guys like Webb, VC, , Bosh i all group in one, their chances are based on how generous the league is willing to be.

But a couple more all-star performances and more titles will deff. put him there
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Re: Chris Bosh: I'm a Hall of Famer

Postby therealdeal on Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:08 am

^ Paul is almost a lock to get in. He's been one of the best players in Celtics history. And that's saying a whole lot more than being one of the best players in Raptors history.
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