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Postby DarthRekal on Sun Jun 23, 2013 3:20 pm

if stern allows this to go through AND a KG trade.. i call collusion... first the CP3 gate now this.. Jerry West was right
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Re: Clippers and Celtics Discussing Blockbuster (Not the Store)

Postby dwighthowardsdad on Sun Jun 23, 2013 3:39 pm

The Los Angeles Clippers have reached an agreement in principle to send an unprotected 2015 first-round draft pick to the Boston Celtics for the rights to hire coach Doc Rivers, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

Rivers has agreed to a three-year, $21 million deal with the Clippers, league sources said.

Doc Rivers is nearing a deal to become the Clippers' new coach. (USA Today Sports)Talks started again on Sunday when the Clippers offered the Celtics the first-round pick to free Rivers from his contract with Boston, sources said.

The NBA still needs to grant approval to the deal, but the teams have been led to believe that won't be a problem, sources said.

The Clippers and Rivers believe Rivers' arrival will solidify star free agent Chris Paul's commitment to sign a five-year contract extension in July, sources said.

Rivers told the Clippers that he was no longer interested in the position on Friday, but pressure from Paul stayed strong on Clippers management over the weekend and Los Angeles reconsidered its unwillingness to give Boston a first-round pick, sources said.

Clearly, Rivers' telling the Clippers he no longer had interest in the job – and the Celtics setting a Friday deadline for a deal – were negotiating postures to leverage the Clippers back with a better offer.

Rivers had gone into the weekend planning to decide his future with the Celtics, and sources said he had been leaning strongly toward returning next season to fulfill the three years and $21 million left on his contract. With the Celtics moving into a rebuilding phase, several sources told Yahoo! Sports that Boston management preferred draft-pick compensation over paying for an elite coach.


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Re: Clippers and Celtics Discussing Blockbuster (Not the Store)

Postby 432J on Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:02 pm

:man10: oh god, way to go stern

first saying he won't let this happen and now it's done. i cannot wait until that POS retires. at least they didn't allow them to include players in the deal but still messed up
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Re: Clippers and Celtics Discussing Blockbuster (Not the Store)

Postby Helljumper on Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:52 pm

I don't understand why everyone is so upset about this. From the start, we knew that a straight up deal of picks/cash as compensation for the rights to sign Rivers would be legal. The issue was always that it couldn't be tied in to a trade involving players and the NBA's sticking with that. Just because there was so much confusion about this whole situation due to them using the media as a bargaining tool doesn't mean this is anything like "basketball reasons."

And on top of that, I really don't think Doc's the coach to take them to the next level.
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Postby XXIV on Sun Jun 23, 2013 5:42 pm

There's no way they'd let a deal for players pass after this. The clippers getting Rivers doesn't surprise me though.
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Re: Clippers and Celtics Discussing Blockbuster (Not the Store)

Postby LTLakerFan on Sun Jun 23, 2013 6:39 pm

Helljumper wrote:I don't understand why everyone is so upset about this. From the start, we knew that a straight up deal of picks/cash as compensation for the rights to sign Rivers would be legal. The issue was always that it couldn't be tied in to a trade involving players and the NBA's sticking with that. Just because there was so much confusion about this whole situation due to them using the media as a bargaining tool doesn't mean this is anything like "basketball reasons."

And on top of that, I really don't think Doc's the coach to take them to the next level.


He's pretty damn awful good with a ring and almost a second to show for it. Why not, who would be better? (don't say Pringles as some have suggested as playoffs and crunch time are what counts). Ugggh!! Lakers across the hall tenant just got even tougher.
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Re: Clippers and Celtics Discussing Blockbuster (Not the Store)

Postby Doc Brown on Sun Jun 23, 2013 6:59 pm

LTLakerFan wrote:
He's pretty damn awful good


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Re: Clippers and Celtics Discussing Blockbuster (Not the Store)

Postby LTLakerFan on Sun Jun 23, 2013 7:03 pm

Doc Brown wrote:
LTLakerFan wrote:
He's pretty damn awful good


:what: :what:


LOL.... what....the horrible english or the thought he's pretty damn "awfully" good?
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Re: Clippers and Celtics Discussing Blockbuster (Not the Store)

Postby noobiew on Sun Jun 23, 2013 7:19 pm

From NBA cbssports

Berger reports that the league will allow the deal to send the pick to Boston in exchange for releasing Rivers, but will not allow any subsequent trade that involves Kevin Garnett. The league would view any such trade as disallowable under the current CBA which does not allow for players to be exchanged in any deal involving coaches.

The league had made it clear they would no budge even if the two teams split the deal into two components, with one the aforementioned deal and the separate a player-packed deal in exchange for Garnett, with some of the assets intended as compensation for Rivers as well as Garnett in a package deal.

So it would appear, for the moment, that Garnett is stranded on the Celtics


Rivers is allowed to go to Clippers but NBA wouldn't allowed Garnett to go to the Clippers, if Garnett doesn't wants to stay on a rebuilding mode Boston team and wanted out, Garnett did mentioned he would only waived his no trade and wanted to go to LA only, if Clippers is out of the picture, then that only leave the other LA team as his only choice, why not the Los Angeles Lakes ?!

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Re: Clippers and Celtics Discussing Blockbuster (Not the Store)

Postby Helljumper on Sun Jun 23, 2013 7:23 pm

Do you guys really want 39 year old KG's $12 million eating into our 2014 cap space?
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Re: Clippers and Celtics Discussing Blockbuster (Not the Store)

Postby noobiew on Sun Jun 23, 2013 7:46 pm

^^ Hey KG had just past 37 this May, not 39

Yup go get him if only he agrees to retire in 2014 after winning a championship next year together with Kobe and Dwight. :man12:
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Re: Clippers and Celtics Discussing Blockbuster (Not the Store)

Postby Rooscooter on Sun Jun 23, 2013 8:02 pm

Helljumper wrote:Do you guys really want 39 year old KG's $12 million eating into our 2014 cap space?


He'd fit right in....
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Re: Clippers and Celtics Discussing Blockbuster (Not the Store)

Postby dwighthowardsdad on Sun Jun 23, 2013 8:34 pm

Doc Rivers has agreed to terms on a three-year, $21 million contract with the Los Angeles Clippers, ending weeks of dysfunctional and muddled negotiations, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

After the Clippers re-started talks on Sunday with the offer of a first-round draft pick to the Celtics for compensation, talks rapidly progressed and Los Angeles agreed to send Boston its unprotected 2015 first-round selection.

lippers free-agent guard Chris Paul kept lobbying franchise management to pursue Rivers throughout the past week. Paul hasn't formally committed to signing a five-year maximum contract in July, but Rivers is taking the job with full knowledge that he'll be coaching Paul, sources said.

The possibility of Boston Celtics forward Kevin Garnett reuniting with Rivers in Los Angeles is a remote possibility, largely because of the NBA's unwillingness to approve a trade that suspiciously looks like an extension of the coaching transaction.

As the Celtics-Clippers discussions dragged on, Garnett – who had to waive his no-trade clause – had become increasingly less interested in making the move to the Clippers, sources said.

Garnett has two years, $24.4 million left on his Celtics deal, but there's a growing belief that he'll play one more season before retiring and joining his old coach, Flip Saunders, with a ceremonial role in Minnesota Timberwolves ownership, league sources told Y! Sports.

"The opportunity will be there for him," one source said, "but there's nothing decided yet."

The Celtics have to make a decision before June 30 if they want to buy out the remaining $15 million on Paul Pierce's contract for $5 million, but Boston is finding that scenario less and less likely, sources told Yahoo! Sports. There's been enough trade interest from contending teams who still see the 35-year-old Pierce as a plausible third offensive option, sources said.

The Denver Nuggets called the Celtics on Saturday – the second time in two weeks – to inquire about trying to hire Rivers as coach, league sources told Yahoo! Sports. The Nuggets had been willing to give the Celtics a first-round pick as compensation and were prepared to make Rivers a competitive offer with the $7 million per season he made in Boston, sources told Yahoo! Sports.

Before the Clippers reached out to the Celtics on Sunday morning, Rivers had informed Boston general manager Danny Ainge that he planned to return for the 2013-14 season as coach, a source told Y! Sports. Rivers had been balking at returning to the Celtics out of disillusionment over having to preside over a rebuilding process. In the end, though, Boston was glad to shed the $21 million owed to Rivers over the next three years, clearing the way for them to hire a less-expensive coach with the organization no longer in championship contention mode.

Without the Clippers' change of heart on offering a first-round pick, there had been a strong possibility that Rivers would've discussed the Nuggets job with Denver officials. The Clippers' offer of a 2015 first-round pick changed everything. Clearly, Rivers' telling the Clippers he no longer had interest in the job – and the Celtics setting a Friday deadline for a deal – were negotiating postures to leverage the Clippers back with a better offer.

Not only had Rivers told the Clippers on Friday that he was no longer interested in the job, he had told his defensive coordinator, Mike Longabardi, that he was completely done discussing the Clippers position and would not accept it, sources said. Soon, Longabardi finalized a deal to become the top assistant coach with the Phoenix Suns. He now won't be able to join Rivers' staff with the Clippers.

It is likely that Rivers will bring Boston assistant coaches Tyronn Lue and Kevin Eastman, sources said. Another assistant, Jay Larranaga, is well-regarded by Rivers and the front office, but he's under contract for one more year with Boston. It's unclear how Larranaga fits into Rivers' Clippers staff.

Former Clippers head coach Alvin Gentry had discussed joining Rivers' staff with the Celtics, and will be a candidate for his Los Angeles staff, sources said. Gentry also is candidate for the Memphis Grizzlies' head-coaching position and to join Mike D'Antoni's staff with the Los Angeles Lakers.


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Re: Clippers and Celtics Discussing Blockbuster (Not the Store)

Postby dwighthowardsdad on Sun Jun 23, 2013 8:39 pm

So, they upgraded their coach & have the some assets to improve their team through trades. It will be interesting to see what they do moving forward regarding their roster...
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Postby V.V.V.V.V. on Sun Jun 23, 2013 8:48 pm

I'd say that pretty damn awful good is an apt description of Doc.
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Re: Clippers and Celtics Discussing Blockbuster (Not the Store)

Postby therealdeal on Sun Jun 23, 2013 9:16 pm

Very interesting. I'd be on the phone right now wondering what it would take to get Garnett out of Boston now. Yes he's old, yes he can't handle a ton of minutes, but his defensive intensity would work wonders with Dwight. Not to mention he'd hold Dwight accountable for all the BS.
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Postby FabFourLakers on Sun Jun 23, 2013 9:47 pm

therealdeal wrote:Very interesting. I'd be on the phone right now wondering what it would take to get Garnett out of Boston now. Yes he's old, yes he can't handle a ton of minutes, but his defensive intensity would work wonders with Dwight. Not to mention he'd hold Dwight accountable for all the BS.



I would say KG for Garnett and another player could work....or Pau and MWP for KG and Pierce...

Ugh, I just hate Pierce too much...I dunno if I could ever like him as a Laker....
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Re: Clippers and Celtics Discussing Blockbuster (Not the Store)

Postby LTLakerFan on Sun Jun 23, 2013 9:53 pm

Hey he's mellowed with age too sorta (KG)..... not even the dirtiest, chippiest player any longer since D. Wade has moved into the top spot. :man9:
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Re: Clippers and Celtics Discussing Blockbuster (Not the Store)

Postby therealdeal on Sun Jun 23, 2013 10:43 pm

FabFourLakers wrote:
therealdeal wrote:Very interesting. I'd be on the phone right now wondering what it would take to get Garnett out of Boston now. Yes he's old, yes he can't handle a ton of minutes, but his defensive intensity would work wonders with Dwight. Not to mention he'd hold Dwight accountable for all the BS.



I would say KG for Garnett and another player could work....or Pau and MWP for KG and Pierce...

Ugh, I just hate Pierce too much...I dunno if I could ever like him as a Laker....

KG for Garnett?
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Re: Clippers and Celtics Discussing Blockbuster (Not the Store)

Postby Lets Go Lakers on Sun Jun 23, 2013 11:56 pm

Very happy that Clips got Rivers. I don't like the fact that the league intrudes so much in trades. They should let KG/DJ trade happen. That would be a steal for the Clips. DJ is the most overrated talent in the nba. No basketball iq and hands of pure butter. KG can still be a very, very good player for at least a couple of years cause his game isn't based on athleticism. He's got amazing length, great basketball iq and a great midrange jumper. Clips replacing Dj for Kg would be a huge upgrade. Dj was utter trash and dead weight.
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Re: Clippers and Celtics Discussing Blockbuster (Not the Store)

Postby kenzo on Mon Jun 24, 2013 9:16 am

How funny would it be if CP bolts after all of this :man9:
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Re: Clippers and Celtics Discussing Blockbuster (Not the Store)

Postby NoisyBook on Mon Jun 24, 2013 9:32 am

Glad they still have DJ, who can't shoot and doesn't have IQ at 3rd grades level...

If they can get KG, they are gonna be dangerous. KG is a true professional as he said himself via TNT.
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Re: Clippers and Celtics Discussing Blockbuster (Not the Store)

Postby LTLakerFan on Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:18 pm

Yeah well DJ has some upside believe it or not. What if Doc gets his head screwed on straight to buy into the team concept and give them what they need. And then they make some minor Heat type acquisitions acquiring capable veterans on the cheap chasing a ring. Doc gives them the credibility now this franchise has never had. Look the hell out. I hate this.

My only hope is a buzzer goes off in Jimmy's head as to the piss poor situation he has put us in, and he tells Mitch to explain it to Dwight that if he stays Mitch will monitor the situation very carefully with Dan on a very short leash. PLUS they bring Phil in as VP or something like that to give the Lakers back some effing credibility that "Basketball" people are running the front office again. Free Mitch....free Mitch....let him work with Phil on the decisions. I think that would keep Dwight here and return us to where we need to be. Free agents would have more faith. More importantly I would get off this huge [Swearing is not permitted at Clublakers. You must edit this post prior to submitting.] bummer I've been on ever since Dan was hired. Vash too I know for sure. Birds would sing and all would be semi-right in L.A. again. The Lakers sure as hell better because Doc will up the Clippers' game big time.
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Re: Clippers and Celtics Discussing Blockbuster (Not the Store)

Postby abeer3 on Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:33 pm

Helljumper wrote:Do you guys really want 39 year old KG's $12 million eating into our 2014 cap space?


i'll be unpopular and say yes on the condition that it convinces Dwight to stay. garnett's a much better complement to howard than gasol, and the FA market in 2014 isn't super strong. again, though, only if it convinces Dwight. if you don't get confirmation that it will tip the scales, I wouldn't do it.

I actually fear the clips getting kg. old or not, he's a winner, and his versatile game would really make things work for them on both ends. we just saw td almost carry a team to a title with a top notch pg, why couldn't kg help paul get there?
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Re: Clippers and Celtics Discussing Blockbuster (Not the Store)

Postby JSM on Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:12 pm

Great trade for the Clipps. They get get rid of a Just For Men's hair actor on the bench and replace him with arguably the second best coach in the NBA right now. All they had to give a rebuilding Boston is a future pick that will be in the 20s. And I think this also ensures CP3 staying since he was the one who pushed for Doc in LA. So if a late 1st rounder is all it costs to get your superstar player to stay and for an elite coach, then we need to call SA and offer up a pick for Pop. :man10: Just don't let him coach in the 4th quarter of the Finals.

Should be interesting to see how the rest of Boston's firesale progresses.
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