Cuban Explains Decisions on Blog

Cuban Explains Decisions on Blog

Postby LTLakerFan on Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:22 am

Some interesting stuff I guess but probably need to go to his blog as don't think all 3,000 words are here. But I bolded near the end what he said Clown's response was in their interview when Cuban asked him what his goal was. Typical. Not surprising.

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2013/8/4/45 ... -mavericks


Mark Cuban writes lengthy blog post explaining Mavericks' decisions
By Jonathan Tjarks on Aug 4 2013, 10:01a 4

The Dallas owner wrote a 3,000-word play-by-play on why he broke apart the 2011 championship team, the lockout negotiations and Dwight Howard chase.

Not much has gone right for the Dallas Mavericks since their 2011 NBA championship. After letting Tyson Chandler and a few other key contributors from that team leave in free agency, the Mavs slipped back into the middle of the pack in the Western Conference.

The idea was to turn the salary cap space they saved into one of the NBA's premier free agents, particularly Deron Williams, Chris Paul or Dwight Howard. Dallas went 0-3, raising doubts about the wisdom of breaking apart one of the NBA's best teams in the first place.

On Saturday night, Mark Cuban wrote a lengthy article on his personal website explaining what happened. There's a lot of interesting stuff there, even for non-Mavs fans.

For starters, Cuban thought there was a "90 percent chance" the lockout would cancel the 2012-13 season:

As one of the owners on the committee negotiating the CBA I honestly felt that there was a 90pct chance there would not be a season. Sitting in those meetings it was as if both sides lived in two alternate universes that never intersected. As it turns out I was wrong. 3am one morning after being told that there was no real chance of a settlement, there was a settlement.

Regardless, he figured that the Mavs were doomed in a lockout-shortened season, given how old the team was:

But what we have not discussed publicly was our concern of bringing back an older team in a shortened season. We basically saw the 2011-12 season as a throw away no matter who we signed. With out the time to prepare and get their bodies ready, throwing a team with with an older starting lineup right into the fire was going to be tough.

He also comes down hard on tanking for draft picks, which has become a big issue headed into what's expected to be a loaded 2014 draft:

The week I bought the Mavs I was asked by Nellie if I wanted to bag the season in order to get the best draft pick that we could. My response was "No. At some point this franchise has to learn how to win and develop a culture of winning. You don't create that culture by tanking the season. I don't know how many games we can win, but we are going to try to win every one of them."

He talks a little about the Dwight Howard chase, including some epic unintentional comedy at the end:

I do have to say the meeting with Dwight was very interesting. He is a smart guy. Much smarter than people give him credit for. He is also a very, very good listener. Unlike most people, he spent far more time listening than talking. And he had the best response to an opening question that I have ever heard from a player, or anyone for that matter. When we asked him what his goal was, his response was very specific " I want to be Epic" .

Isn't that the most Dwight Howard answer ever? I'm going to use it in my next job interview.

As a Mavs fan, I appreciate Cuban's willingness to be upfront. However, I'd rather he not have made the mistakes that necessitated the article in the first place.

All in all, it's about as up-close a look at how the sausage is made in the NBA as you are going to get.
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Re: Cuban Explains Decisions on Blog

Postby The Rock on Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:30 am

Check out the cartoon he made for Dwight during the sales pitch. Not bad I liked it.

http://blogmaverick.com/2013/08/03/lets-talk-mavs-mffl/

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Re: Cuban Explains Decisions on Blog

Postby LTLakerFan on Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:39 am

The Rock wrote:Check out the cartoon he made for Dwight during the sales pitch. Not bad I liked it.

http://blogmaverick.com/2013/08/03/lets-talk-mavs-mffl/

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HA!! :man10: :man10: Well that had to be the final nail in the coffin of Dwight going to Dallas, his Houston plans having already been made aside. Even the DIVA Howard is knew Cuban was flat out lying to him in that pretty cool cartoon. The part where he said Dwight was going to become ........ "no spoilers, watch the cartoon". Yeah right. :man10: :man10: :man10:
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Re: Cuban Explains Decisions on Blog

Postby The Rock on Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:43 am

For the love of God please Lakers see what Dallas has become...look at Cuban acknowledging how the league has wised up. We should too. Use more analytics. Make use of draft picks...since this is at throwaway season pump up trade value of guys like Nash, Blake and then use them as trade assets. Every roster spot/player should be considered as an asset that can be cashed in later for a pick or some compensation we use to rebuild the roster (Untouchable would be Kobe)

I hope we dont become Dallas, they have a competitive owner, a championship coach, an All Star in Dirk, no state taxes and 2 years in a row they've struck out on marquis free agents. Times have changed. History means nothing. Build a roster that is appealing.
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Re: Cuban Explains Decisions on Blog

Postby abeer3 on Sun Aug 04, 2013 11:52 am

unfortunately, la is in a VERY similar boat. the right thing to do as organization is to do right by kobe/dirk. that means most of your cap is eaten up on one guy. all the teams with younger stars are paying them about 2/3 what dirk gets (or half what kobe gets). so the cap space route doesn't work until those guys are making less money. but how much less? how do you go about that conversation?

in addition, the young guys in the league have spoken, and they don't want to play with dirk or kobe. I think they're stupid for choosing guys like harden over actual proven superstars who have carried teams to titles, but that seems to be what these dudes want.

I think both franchises will be fine going forward, though, because they both know how to build relationships with their stars without catering to them and they're both willing to spend money to win.

Cuban struck out on big stars, but their team is nowhere near as bad as people are saying, and they will still have some flexibility to sign another impact player next year. after that, you can just recycle assets to stay in contention, like dallas did for the 10 years prior to winning the title.

the lakers probably want to consider dallas as a cautionary tale and start collecting guys who can play next summer, even if they're not stars. the stars will come to la if they've got some good support players in place, post-kobe.
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Re: Cuban Explains Decisions on Blog

Postby Rooscooter on Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:27 pm

Breaking up that team when he did was a good decision regardless of what happen after IMO. Chandler was vastly overvalued and Terry was at the end of his peak as well. We could learn a few things from that IMO.

We've over paid after championships (Pau) and re-signed players when we should have let them go (Walton) a few times. The Pau contract has been the cement shoes on our ability to re-build for the last 3 seasons.

He didn't get the players he wanted but then again the 3 targets he had are all on their downward arc it seems. Having a high payroll is a huge issue with the new CBA and teams that win will have a difficult time signing the role players who typically get waaay overpaid after winning a championship. Miami seems to have a good formula working with just 5 longer term contracts and most everyone else is 1 or 2 with team options. That gives them the flexibility to not be forced into paying up every time they have some success.
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Re: Cuban Explains Decisions on Blog

Postby abeer3 on Sun Aug 04, 2013 6:12 pm

well, we'll see what Miami does after this season. if they get to keep everyone (including chalmers) without people taking further paycuts, then the new cba is a bit of a paper tiger for the big market teams (my sense all along).

as long as the lakers don't sign pau and kobe to extensions (meaning paying them at their current rates), I don't mind keeping both for a while. the question is: are they like dirk and willing to take significantly less money to stay at home and try to win? if they are, I think la can re-load without having to bottom out--and I think Cuban's right about that particular issue. it's crowded in that race; do something different.
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Re: Cuban Explains Decisions on Blog

Postby XXIV on Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:49 am

^ They both have to know a significant paycut is needed in order for us to compete for a championship. Their definition of a paycut may be different than hours however, but I don't see either of them leaving the Lakers.
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Re: Cuban Explains Decisions on Blog

Postby therealdeal on Tue Aug 06, 2013 10:03 am

I think that if the Lakers feel they won't be able to attract a FA this summer that they want (Carmelo or LeBron), then Kobe and Gasol's contracts will be one-year lucrative offers. Then next summer as Love/Rondo become available, they'll throw the bank at those guys and allow Kobe/Gasol to pick up the pieces.

But I don't really picture either leaving, obviously not Kobe. And for that to happen they'll have to take sizable pay cuts.
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