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Re: Where is Darius Morris?

Postby revgen on Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:23 pm

For all his horrible decisions on offense, he wasn't a bad defender. 6'5 and very quick. Heck, he was about as quick as Glock footspeed wise despite being taller and longer. Even gave CP3 some fits at times.
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Re: Where is Darius Morris?

Postby therealdeal on Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:25 pm

If we get rid of Blake and he's our next bet... I'm going to be really sad watching Laker games this season...

And I like that kid.
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Re: Where is Darius Morris?

Postby XXIV on Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:43 pm

He needs to learn to slow his game down, if he can do that he may be a good PG in the NBA.
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Re: Where is Darius Morris?

Postby Doc Brown on Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:45 pm

I like him and glad that he will be back, he definitely has the tools and potential to be a nice role player.

Downside..... a year of his growth got stunted by sitting on the bench the whole last season, so it won't come this season or maybe not even with this team. :man5: :man5:
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Re: Where is Darius Morris?

Postby Rooscooter on Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:07 pm

Wow.... I hope this isn't indicative of what's coming this off season...... This guy was horrible and isn't even close to an answer to our point guard problems.......
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Re: Where is Darius Morris?

Postby kray28 on Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:31 pm

Is there much of anything to be optimistic about with the Lakers these days? :disagree:
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Re: Where is Darius Morris?

Postby Texas Lakers Fan on Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:32 pm

Rooscooter wrote:Wow.... I hope this isn't indicative of what's coming this off season...... This guy was horrible and isn't even close to an answer to our point guard problems.......

Who said he was the answer? No one, but he has potential to be a solid backup.
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Re: Where is Darius Morris?

Postby Ariza3 on Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:36 pm

He's not a ba defender. watching him being put in at the end of blow out games ( I think the last game during okc series) he was actually pretty good defensively. quick legs and lateral movements. active hands. was all in the face of their PG and was keeping him and the halfcourt line. He also just pulled up for a 3. beginning of the season he was all over the place and too fast. but over the season he apparently bonded with love and got close with him. he slowed down a bit. showed off his handles and pull up jumper. also 3 point shot form looked good too. I think with a summer league and training camp he should be given some mins. I think he can really do damage. he beats glock 1-on-1 when they'd play and got better at shooting and more confident. metta (although insane) said he was a starting caliber PG. I think he's be a solid young talented athletic backup PG. He's got talent and hopefully we see it and give him some burn. also glock too of course.
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Re: Where is Darius Morris?

Postby Rooscooter on Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:37 pm

KeepBynum wrote:
Rooscooter wrote:Wow.... I hope this isn't indicative of what's coming this off season...... This guy was horrible and isn't even close to an answer to our point guard problems.......

Who said he was the answer? No one, but he has potential to be a solid backup.


Why do people continually overrate our scrubs and want to trade our best players?

This guy couldn't crack our bench rotation and when he did get on the floor he was so overmatched it was embarrassing......
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Re: Where is Darius Morris?

Postby Texas Lakers Fan on Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:44 pm

Rooscooter wrote:
KeepBynum wrote:
Rooscooter wrote:Wow.... I hope this isn't indicative of what's coming this off season...... This guy was horrible and isn't even close to an answer to our point guard problems.......

Who said he was the answer? No one, but he has potential to be a solid backup.


Why do people continually overrate our scrubs and want to trade our best players?

This guy couldn't crack our bench rotation and when he did get on the floor he was so overmatched it was embarrassing......

Goudelock couldn't crack the rotation either does he suck too? Our coach is a moron just because a guy doesn't play doesn't mean they can't play. Morris was a rookie and made some rookie mistakes. No big deal.
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Re: Where is Darius Morris?

Postby The Rock on Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:36 pm

https://twitter.com/Mike_Bresnahan/status/218455971276656640
Lakers will give rookie PG Darius Morris a qualifying offer of about $940,000 making him a restricted FA. He's probably back next year.
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Re: Where is Darius Morris?

Postby Rooscooter on Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:57 pm

KeepBynum wrote:Goudelock couldn't crack the rotation either does he suck too? Our coach is a moron just because a guy doesn't play doesn't mean they can't play. Morris was a rookie and made some rookie mistakes. No big deal.


Come on..... Morris didn't earn one minute this year..... He was a last resort because of injuries and he stunk in 90% of his minutes........ And the ones he didn't were the last minutes of blowouts....

He wouldn't have even been offered a contract on 29 other teams....... That's how bad it is here

Goudelock had a few decent stretches on the offensive end but he too wouldn't be on many other teams in the league either.......

While I'm not a huge fan of Brown......it wasn't his fault these guys don't belong at this level..... Goudelock might be able to stick for another season but if Morris is still around come camp time we will have failed mightily this offseason.....
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Re: Where is Darius Morris?

Postby Phil XI on Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:04 am

Shouldve waited til after the draft.
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Re: Where is Darius Morris?

Postby ben_ready on Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:05 pm

I don't get you guys, this guy was a second round rookie playing limited mins and y'all saying he sucked 90% of the time? Who made you chumps scouts? Lol comedy I swear, and I guess y'all would prefer blake lol mr I run the baseline like 3 times but hey I keep my dribble lol. We need to get us a legit starting pg keep Morris as a 3rd, and get rid of blake he's had enough time to show us what he can't do yell™
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Re: Darius Morris

Postby JUST-MING on Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:22 pm

Mike_Bresnahan wrote:

    Lakers will give rookie PG Darius Morris a qualifying offer of about $940,000 making him a restricted FA. He's probably back next year.
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Nearly a million for practice squad fodder? Waste of money.
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Re: Where is Darius Morris?

Postby Rooscooter on Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:33 pm

ben_ready wrote:I don't get you guys, this guy was a second round rookie playing limited mins and y'all saying he sucked 90% of the time? Who made you chumps scouts? Lol comedy I swear, and I guess y'all would prefer blake lol mr I run the baseline like 3 times but hey I keep my dribble lol. We need to get us a legit starting pg keep Morris as a 3rd, and get rid of blake he's had enough time to show us what he can't do yell™



Should the "Suck Meter" be re-calibrated because he was taken in the second round..... What does where he was taken have to do with how he played?... What does Blake's play have to do with the fact Morris sucked in the majority of the minutes he played?.... You seem to be arguing two unrelated things here.....

I couldn't care less about where he was taken or what kind of "value" he is..... he hasn't shown yet that he belongs at this level in any way shape or form..... to fill a roster spot with him is truly a waste of a money if we are really trying to win a championship.... the money would have been better spent buying a high second round pick last night when there WERE some players left on the board that could help us....

Based on what he did last season..... I just don't see that he can help us in any way..... think of it this way.... if he is getting playing time what kind of team will we have?
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Re: Where is Darius Morris?

Postby dj vitus on Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:45 pm

When Morris played 10 or more minutes per game, he wasn't that bad. In fact, he played pretty well in the games he played 20 or more minutes.

It doesn't matter to me if he gets two TOs in two minutes of garbage time.

What he can do in 20-25 mins of real basketball counts. A lot of players play better given more minutes. How good or bad remains to be seen until he gets those minutes.

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Re: Where is Darius Morris?

Postby Rooscooter on Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:08 pm

^^OK.... is this for real?.... Blake is worse than Morris?.... Let's be realistic here guys..... just because they wear a Laker Jersey doesn't mean that they aren't scrubs....

I don't remember any 20 minute stretch where Morris out played even Blake's worse 20 minute stretch.... He dribbled with head down.... couldn't get to the hoop or around anyone.... wasn't a good passer and other than a few 3 pointers couldn't shoot.... He wasn't even that good on the defensive end most of the time... For a college point guard his ball handling was not that good either....

It's like the lost puppy syndrome with some of these guys..... everyone has a "favorite" end of the bench player that's completely misunderstood and just needs that chance that the "idiot coach" won't give him and he'll be the next surprise that puts us over the top.... Morris, and most likely Goudelock are the latest in a long line of these guys....

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All of these guys were..... at the very best..... end of the bench players.... and each has been vastly overrated because of the jersey they wore.... Crittenton, and Wafer had the talent but not the gray matter.... the rest were scrubs that stuck because we were only 7 deep over most of the last decade....
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Re: Darius Morris

Postby JUST-MING on Fri Jun 29, 2012 5:43 pm

dj vitus wrote:When Morris played 10 or more minutes per game, he wasn't that bad.

He might have attempted one shot in the paint all year.

He just dribbled behind the 3 point arc the entire time he was in games. Did nothing. Not penetrating. Not calling for a pick. Not calling a play. Just dribbled. Until there were 10 secs left on the shot clock.
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Re: Where is Darius Morris?

Postby dj vitus on Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:50 pm

Rooscooter wrote:Penberthy
Karl
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Lue
Celestand
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Carter
Brown
Wafer
Yue

All of these guys were..... at the very best..... end of the bench players.... and each has been vastly overrated because of the jersey they wore.... Crittenton, and Wafer had the talent but not the gray matter.... the rest were scrubs that stuck because we were only 7 deep over most of the last decade....

I actually rooted for Javaris, and I think he probably had more talent than the rest of them before he (presumably) murdered someone. :man11:

As for the 20 min stretch, Morris did once against Denver late in the season, and once early in the season.

As far as being better than Blake, I really can't compare since I haven't seen him play consistent minutes. All I know is that Blake was maddeningly inconsistent all season after his rib injury, though he did have a few good games in the playoffs. Experience-wise, of course he's the smarter/safer choice to play.

If you've seen enough of Morris to know for sure that he won't be better than Blake with 20-25 mins/game, I can totally respect that. All I'm saying is we give him a chance, but I am open to changing my mind if he doesn't show much in the summer league with ample playing time.
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Re: Where is Darius Morris?

Postby Rooscooter on Sat Jun 30, 2012 5:28 pm

dj vitus wrote:
Rooscooter wrote:Penberthy
Karl
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Brown
Wafer
Yue

All of these guys were..... at the very best..... end of the bench players.... and each has been vastly overrated because of the jersey they wore.... Crittenton, and Wafer had the talent but not the gray matter.... the rest were scrubs that stuck because we were only 7 deep over most of the last decade....

I actually rooted for Javaris, and I think he probably had more talent than the rest of them before he (presumably) murdered someone. :man11:

As for the 20 min stretch, Morris did once against Denver late in the season, and once early in the season.

As far as being better than Blake, I really can't compare since I haven't seen him play consistent minutes. All I know is that Blake was maddeningly inconsistent all season after his rib injury, though he did have a few good games in the playoffs. Experience-wise, of course he's the smarter/safer choice to play.

If you've seen enough of Morris to know for sure that he won't be better than Blake with 20-25 mins/game, I can totally respect that. All I'm saying is we give him a chance, but I am open to changing my mind if he doesn't show much in the summer league with ample playing time.


My concern about signing him again is that he didn't show much of anything when out there..... remember we have been comparing his play to that of a 36 year old Fisher and an injured and inconsistent Blake.... and IMO he still didn't look that good. For a college point guard from a decent program he doesn't seem to possess any real point guard skills.... he seems to think he's Russell Westbrook rather than Steve Nash.... With that mentality and his physical skills he's far better off going to Europe because it was plain to see he wasn't skilled enough to play that style in the NBA.

A bigger issue for me is that we are signing him before we have completed our "other work" this offseason.... that may be an indicator that he may actually be in the plans for significant playing time..... that scares me more than just a little....
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Re: Where is Darius Morris?

Postby KB24 on Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:51 am

I'd keep a close eye on him during the summer league.

I still think he is better than he played. Will he be a future starter? never. But he can maybe stick in the league as a role player.

His main issue is that he is neither a good shooter, nor a good penetrator. Defenses can cheat on him and he will not be able to get to the lane. Thats a weakness he will never overcome unless he can at least space the floor.
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Re: Where is Darius Morris?

Postby DJ-RaZ-Q#24 on Sun Jul 01, 2012 8:28 am

Can't find the Gl0ck thread so here the quick question. Did he get a qualifying offer or what's the status with him :man3:
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Re: Where is Darius Morris?

Postby Rooscooter on Sun Jul 01, 2012 8:33 am

DJ-RaZ-Q#24 wrote:Can't find the Gl0ck thread so here the quick question. Did he get a qualifying offer or what's the status with him :man3:


I thought his contract was a 2 year one.... I could be wrong however.....
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Re: Where is Darius Morris?

Postby wcsoldier81 on Sun Jul 01, 2012 8:44 am

He made Fisher and Blake look like Magic and Stockton ... I know it's just "900k" but that's 900k wasted considering how careful Lakers are about the salary cap situation
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