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Postby LakerFanIam on Fri May 30, 2014 7:37 pm

LTLakerFan wrote:Well :man10: :man10: maybe they get their 2 Billion and Sterling sues the NBA because they made them sell to get the 2 billion. BUT….to get Silver and the League to let her proceed with the sale, Shelly has agreed to "indemnify" them against any losses they might suffer from any of Donald's law suits. :man10: This is crazy.


Yeah... Crazy stuff... There is 1 of 2 scenarios going on here...

1) The Sterling's are playing the NBA collectively & trying to milk every penny they can by putting up this two party attack... Shelly says one thing, Donald does another... But it may all be part of the act.

2) The real legal issue is between Donald & Shelly... She's acting without his permission & he's trying to fight back...

Curious to see how this plays out... Good news is that it looks like the sale of the Clippers will go through & the rest of the litigation will just be about $$$$$...
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Postby dmaul on Fri May 30, 2014 7:55 pm

Man, this guy loves suing. It gives him pleasure in life. It's worth it for him because at the very least they'll settle out of court and part of the settlement will be that Sterling won't have to pay the 2.5 mil fine. The guy's about to walk away with 2 billion. Next to that 2.5 mil is a parking ticket but he'll be damned if he's giving anyone a dime. Maybe that's why this guy is still alive and fighting off the cancer so far. Everyone needs a reason to live, a motivation to go forward everyday. Donald lives to sue and one up people who think they can get the best of him.
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Re: Donald Sterling: 2 Billion Ballmer bid!

Postby Lakerjones on Fri May 30, 2014 11:50 pm

Interesting article:
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NBA cancels Sterling hearing, owners to vote on sale

Posted May 30, 2014 7:29 PM - Updated May 31, 2014 12:09 AM
LOS ANGELES (AP) -- The NBA has called off a hearing to oust embattled Los Angeles Clippers co-owner Donald Sterling in advance of a vote on a potentially record-breaking deal negotiated by his wife Shelly Sterling to sell the team to former Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer for $2 billion.

The announcement by the NBA came as Donald Sterling's attorneys filed suit in a Los Angeles federal court against the NBA and Commissioner Adam Silver asking for damages in excess of $1 billion.

The suit alleges that the league violated Sterling's constitutional rights by relying on information from an "illegal" recording that publicized racist remarks he made to a girlfriend. It also says the league committed a breach of contract by fining Sterling $2.5 million for those remarks and that it violated antitrust laws by forcing a sale.

Shelly Sterling, who is a co-owner, negotiated the deal to sell to Ballmer late Thursday despite objections expressed through her estranged husband Donald Sterling's attorneys.

Shelly Sterling, who is a co-owner, negotiated the deal to sell to Ballmer late Thursday despite objections expressed through her estranged husband Donald Sterling's attorneys.
She was able to do so, however, because Donald Sterling was stripped of his ability to act as a co-trustee of the family's fortunes, including the Clippers, after two neurologists determined he was suffering from dementia earlier this month, according to a person close to the Sterling family.
The individual, who is familiar with the trust and the medical evaluations but wasn't authorized to speak publicly, said Sterling was deemed "mentally incapacitated" according to the trust's conditions because he showed "an inability to conduct business affairs in a reasonable and normal manner."
"There is specific language and there are protocols about what to do, and steps in order to get a sole trustee position and that's what took place in the last couple of days," the individual said.
Even so, the lawsuit filed Friday still identifies Donald Sterling as a co-trustee. His attorney, Bobby Samini, would only say that "the assertion that Donald Sterling lacks mental capacity is absurd"; he declined to otherwise discuss the issue.
Sterling can try to reinstate his trusteeship by appealing to the California Probate Court.
Shelly Sterling said in a statement late Thursday that she had agreed to sell the team to Ballmer "under her authority as the sole trustee of The Sterling Family Trust, which owns the Clippers."
The NBA said in a statement Friday that the league, Shelly Sterling and The Sterling Family Trust had "resolved their dispute over the ownership of the Los Angeles Clippers."
"Under the agreement, the Clippers will be sold to Steve Ballmer, pending approval by the NBA Board of Governors, and the NBA will withdraw its pending charge to terminate the Sterlings' ownership of the team," it said.
More importantly for the NBA, given the suit, the league said that Shelly Sterling and The Sterling Family Trust also "agreed not to sue the NBA and to indemnify the NBA against lawsuits from others, including Donald Sterling."
That means whatever monetary damages Donald Sterling may receive under the suit - filed by his attorney Maxwell Blecher on behalf of Sterling and The Sterling Family Trust - may go out one pocket and back in the other unless he is reinstated as a trustee and can nullify the agreement.
The medical evaluation was made earlier this month when Donald Sterling made voluntary visits to two prominent neurologists who conducted extensive tests, including brain scans, the individual said. Though Donald Sterling is no longer a co-trustee of The Sterling Family Trust, he still retains his 50 percent ownership and still receives proceeds from the sale, the individual said.
But Donald Sterling is still fighting, filing suit in U.S. District Court and asking for damages in excess of $1 billion as well as termination of the fine and the reinstatement of former longtime Clippers CEO Andy Roeser.
"Mr. Sterling's lawsuit is predictable, but entirely baseless," NBA general counsel Rick Buchanan said. "Among other infirmities, there was no "forced sale" of his team by the NBA - which means his antitrust and conversion claims are completely invalid. Since it was his wife Shelly Sterling, and not the NBA, that has entered into an agreement to sell the Clippers, Mr. Sterling is complaining about a set of facts that doesn't even exist."
The ownership hearing had been scheduled for next Tuesday after the NBA charged Sterling with damaging the league with his racist comments that were recorded and released. A three-quarters vote of owners to support the charge would have terminated the Sterlings' ownership, and the league would have sold the team.
Donald Sterling's attorneys still contend, however, that as a co-owner he must also give his consent for the deal to go through. They say he won't be giving it. Samini said he'll fight to not sell because of the NBA's conduct and that's why he's filing suit.
But the league said the sale agreement is binding and is going ahead with the approval process for Ballmer.
Ballmer said in a statement that he is honored to have his name submitted to the NBA for approval and thanked the league for working collaboratively with him throughout the process. The price has blown past previous offers for an NBA team.
"Obviously, I saw $2 billion. That gave me a reaction," said Miami Heat star LeBron James, who had been vocal in calling for both Sterlings to be out of the league. "That was a reaction for sure. But as far as everything else, I haven't quite dived into it. ... Any time a 'B' goes after a number, man, you already know that you're talking about some real money."
This is not Ballmer's first foray into potential NBA ownership. Ballmer and investor Chris Hansen headed a group that agreed to a deal to buy the Kings from the Maloof family in January 2013 with the intention of moving the team to Seattle, where the SuperSonics played until 2008.
But Sacramento Mayor Kevin Johnson lobbied the NBA for time to put together a bid to keep the team in California, and though the Ballmer-Hansen group later increased its offer, owners voted to deny the bid for relocation and the Kings were sold to Vivek Ranadive.
Johnson, who has been advising the NBA Players Association in the wake of Sterling's comments, praised Ballmer in a series of tweets Friday night.
"When the Clips play next season, players will be proud to wear the logo on their chest & fans will be proud to cheer for their hometown team," Johnson wrote.
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Re: Donald Sterling: 2 Billion Ballmer bid!

Postby Rooscooter on Sat May 31, 2014 6:56 am

As I said.... The Sterlings have been a step ahead of the NBA the whole time. I think this has been planed down to the mental evaluation and the CNN interview that supports it in the publics eye.

They have a strong case against the NBA as well under constitutional protections and antitrust laws.

Remember when everyone thought Silvers press conference was so good? ..... It will be the evidence that will most likely force the NBA to settle and pay Sterling even more money. I don't see Stern making that mistake.

The court of public opinion if far different than the legal kind. There is no tape and no comments that are admissible. All Sterling need do is say "I don't recall" when asked it he made the comments and that's it. They can't evaluate forensically a tape that was recorded illegally to prove he did.
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Postby LTLakerFan on Sat May 31, 2014 10:33 am

What do you make, though, of all the talk above and in Woj's article, about this indemnification for the League against lawsuit damages from Donald or anyone else related to the case I guess, agreed to by Shelly? How much legal water does that hold?

I do still agree, with everything happening so fast that both Sterlings and both lawyers did in that short span of time, that it would not seem as though all that could have been pulled off IF they were indeed fighting one another, and the lawyers doing what they do against one another.
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Postby Rooscooter on Sat May 31, 2014 12:09 pm

^^id be surprised that the NBA could be indemnified against a constitutional or antitrust case...... That's the whole idea of those laws in that they cannot be exempt from them.

The NBA is essentially a causality of the PC movement. The feigned outcry forced them to act...... Now they may just have given a racist billionaire another 2 billion and have to defend themselves in a billion dollar law suit.
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Postby LTLakerFan on Sat May 31, 2014 4:05 pm

Just hypothetically, if Sterling's 1 billion suit was legitimately about anti-trust and he won, in this case does that mean he would be getting 3 billion for the treble damages? How could Shelly pay that? I don't read it as they can't be sued but as if they are and they lose, Shelly has to pay the damages?
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Postby Rooscooter on Sat May 31, 2014 7:34 pm

I'm sure the NBA would settle if things started going south. The Clippers would be exempt from having to pay Damages because he was the owner at the time of the "harm".

There is a better than 50-50 chance that he gets this thing into court IMHO.

The NBA is going to miss Stern on this one. After being a dirt bag political attorney working for a shady firm in DC that does the DNC's dirty work he rose to the NBA and now he's back there. They guy would not have made the mistake Silver did IMO. He, instead, would have taken the heat onto himself and worked behind the scenes to destroy Sterling rather than pick a fight based on Constitutional and Antitrust grounds in broad daylight....
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Postby LTLakerFan on Sat May 31, 2014 10:56 pm

Didn't say Clippers. Shelly. With her existing half of Donald's assets and the split of the 2 billion for the team. If an over 1 billion verdict went against them Silver is saying "she" is indemnifying (not sure of what the term means) that the League won't have to pay, she will. But this is money in her own family. Just not getting what the league is saying that Shelly agreed to so they would let her deal stand. Maybe I'm misunderstanding you.
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Re: Donald Sterling: 2 Billion Ballmer bid!

Postby Lakerjones on Sat May 31, 2014 11:19 pm

Another very interesting read.

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Donald Sterling, Deposed
Donald Sterling's lawsuit against the NBA and commissioner Adam Silver asserts that Sterling is the victim of an unconstitutional and illegal termination of his ownership of the Los Angeles Clippers, even though his ownership was not officially terminated by the league. The lawsuit and its timing raise legal questions about the actions the NBA has taken against Sterling; the apparent sale of the team by Sterling's wife, Shelly; and Sterling's attempt to stop the process that began with his racist rant:

Q: Can Sterling use this lawsuit to stop the NBA from ending his ownership of the Clippers?

A: No. For starters, the league did not vote to terminate his ownership. That was set for Tuesday, but that meeting has been cancelled because of the sale of his team by his wife, Shelly.

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NBA commissioner Adam Silver banned Clippers owner Donald Sterling from the league for life in the wake of Sterling's racist comments. Full coverage »

In his lawsuit, Donald Sterling makes a number of claims against the NBA -- breach of contract, violation of constitutional rights and flaunting of the nation's antitrust laws. None of them is valid. As the owner of the Clippers, he agreed to the terms of the NBA constitution, the governing document of the league. It provides that his ownership can be terminated when he acts in a way that is adverse to the interests of his fellow owners and reduces the value of their enterprises.

The termination process is specified in the constitution, and commissioner Adam Silver has followed it precisely. When he became an owner, Sterling agreed that he could not and would not sue either his fellow owners or the commissioner. Any disputes would be submitted to arbitration. Sterling's lawsuit ignores these basic agreements among the owners of the NBA. His lawsuit will be dismissed early, with the judge telling Sterling to submit his claims to NBA arbitration.

Q: Sterling claims that the recording of his racist rant was made secretly and without his consent. Can the recording be used against him?

A: Yes. There is no doubt that California privacy laws prevent the use of recordings that are made without the consent of all participants in the conversation. But, in an arbitration, the rules of evidence are not strictly applied. In a trial in a court, Sterling could rely on the privacy law. In an arbitration with his fellow owners, the recording would be used against him.

Q: Sterling also claims that his constitutional rights were violated. Can the NBA terminate his ownership if it violated his rights?

A: Yes. The words "due process" do not appear anywhere in the NBA constitution. Like most owners of a sports franchise, Sterling waived certain rights in return for the privileges of ownership of a professional sports team. It is highly doubtful that Silver and the league violated any of Sterling's rights, but even if they did, it would be of no help to Sterling. In return for the waiver of his rights, Sterling owns a franchise that has increased in value from $12 million when he purchased it in 1981 to a potential value of $2 billion in a sale to Microsoft billionaire Steve Ballmer.

Q: What will be the outcome of Sterling's lawsuit?

A: It will be dismissed as soon as the NBA is able to file the necessary papers. It will not only be dismissed, Sterling faces the prospect of paying the NBA's attorneys' fees and expenses in obtaining the dismissal. According to the NBA, Shelly Sterling promised the league that the Sterling family trust would pay any expenses that resulted from a lawsuit filed by Donald. Even without Shelly's promise of indemnification, the lawsuit that Sterling filed is so filled with incorrect facts and failures of legal doctrine that he would be forced to pay anyway.

Q: Is there anything that Sterling can do to stop the sale of his team?

A: No. Silver and his lawyers have performed at the highest level, anticipating every move that Sterling could make. They have used the powers of the NBA constitution in ways they have never been used before, but they have done so with precision. Sterling may have a legal claim against his wife, Shelly, but he would be well advised to calm down and accept his fate.


If he indeed agreed to arbitration as the article asserts was part of his signing on as an owner then his goose is cooked.
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Postby Rooscooter on Sun Jun 01, 2014 2:20 pm

^^^it was interesting until the "waved due process" part. In a federal privacy suit that won't be upheld. Sure there is arbitration, but it cannot be binding over constitutional protections. Any verdict from arbitration will be appealed in a court then the recording won't be admissible again.

Like all contracts there is a process to find compromise however they cannot avoid the protections in federal law nor are those protections able to be waved. That's what unalienable means.

I've dealt with similar contracts in the development business..... Every time a compromise is forced in arbitration it gets appealed and tossed out and a legal process starts
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Postby Lakerjones on Sun Jun 01, 2014 11:16 pm

^^ Interesting and good insight Roo. Yeah, I hadn't heard of a situation where arbitration couldn't be binding as you are bringing up in a case of constitutionality. This could go back to popcorn eating after all.
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Postby Rooscooter on Sun Jun 01, 2014 11:21 pm

It will all be leverage for both sides to come to a settlement. My bet is that the fine is resended and he's still banned.
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Re: Donald Sterling: 2 Billion Ballmer bid!

Postby LTLakerFan on Tue Jun 03, 2014 4:04 pm

No news anywhere today? This was the big day….vote to approve Shelly's deal rather than kick her old man out. While Donald is (supposedly) trying to sue to stop the sale. Has to be something of levity with the Clippers today that's worthwhile……. :man1:
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Postby Jellincon on Wed Jun 04, 2014 4:53 pm

Donald Sterling won't pursue lawsuit

Banned owner Donald Sterling has approved the sale of the Los Angeles Clippers to former Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer and won't pursue further legal action related to the transaction, his attorney said in an email to ESPN.com's Ramona Shelburne on Wednesday.

Max Blecher said Donald Sterling had settled with wife Shelly regarding the sale and that the NBA agreed to not sue him for anything a day after Sterling, in an interview to NBC4 during a charity function, said he was ready to "move on."

"I feel fabulous, I feel very good," Sterling told NBC4 on Tuesday night when asked how he felt about his wife, Shelly, selling the team. "Everything is just the way it should be, really. It may have worked out differently, but it's good. It's all good."

Donald had sued the NBA on Friday seeking $1 billion in damages but will withdraw that suit, Blecher said. Commissioner Adam Silver was also named as a defendant in the lawsuit.

"I'm OK, I'm OK," Sterling said Tuesday. "Is the NBA OK? I'm not sure about that. Is [NBA commissioner] Adam Silver OK? I'm sure he's OK."

Once the NBA approved Ballmer's bid to buy the Clippers on Friday, a hearing to determine Donald Sterling's future was canceled. Instead, the NBA Board of Governors will vote on the deal agreed upon by Shelly Sterling and Ballmer, who bid $2 billion for the team.

Donald Sterling will still be banned from the NBA for life, according to a source.

Shelly Sterling, as part of a settlement with the league, and a condition of the sale to Ballmer, had indemnified the NBA against future legal action by her husband, essentially meaning that even if he won his lawsuit, the Sterling Family Trust -- which she controlled after he was found by neurologists to be mentally incapacitated -- would pay the damages.

The NBA has set no timetable for a vote to approve Ballmer, but he is expected to easily be accepted by 3/4ths of the other 29 owners.

Information from ESPN.com senior writer Ramona Shelburne was used in this report.


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Postby Rooscooter on Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:33 pm

So.... the NBA agreed not to sue Sterling.... I wonder if they decided to not fine him as well.....

In the end and asset worth a book value of about 550 Million was sold for 2 Billion to "punish: a guy for private statements he made..... That's the takeaway from all of this.

.....also that the outrage is just about as gone as Balmer's "walking round money"......

I wish I could get "punished" this way......
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Postby dmaul on Wed Jun 04, 2014 7:35 pm

^ This may sound dumb and cliche to most people but money isn't everything. People in here are lamenting that poor Sterling gets to walk away with 2 billion for being a racist. Believe me, I wouldn't want that money if it meant that was your legacy, what the world remembered you by, and the shame brought on your family name. This is especially true in his situation. He's near the end of his life already and maybe the cancer is not gone. He lost his son a year or two ago. So really, what is all that money going to do for Sterling at this point, with whatever little time he has left?

But like all wealthy individuals they have a chance to somewhat atone for the seedy things they did in their life, on their way to acquiring that wealth or because they are just natural born scumbags. They can rewrite their legacy and give it all away. My opinion of Sterling would absolutely do a 180 if he donated all of that 2 billion to cancer research or uplifting every public school in the inner cities of this country. I would absolutely forgive him.
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^^^ Sure... But Not Gonna Happen...
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Postby Rooscooter on Wed Jun 04, 2014 7:55 pm

dmaul wrote:^ This may sound dumb and cliche to most people but money isn't everything. People in here are lamenting that poor Sterling gets to walk away with 2 billion for being a racist. Believe me, I wouldn't want that money if it meant that was your legacy, what the world remembered you by, and the shame brought on your family name. This is especially true in his situation. He's near the end of his life already and maybe the cancer is not gone. He lost his son a year or two ago. So really, what is all that money going to do for Sterling at this point, with whatever little time he has left?

But like all wealthy individuals they have a chance to somewhat atone for the seedy things they did in their life, on their way to acquiring that wealth or because they are just natural born scumbags. They can rewrite their legacy and give it all away. My opinion of Sterling would absolutely do a 180 if he donated all of that 2 billion to cancer research or uplifting every public school in the inner cities of this country. I would absolutely forgive him.


Shame? This guy's been doing MUCH worse than the comments he made to his girlfriend.... He's actually acted on his prejudice in the past. This was a "dust up" compared to what he's actually done to minorities in the past in the name of money.

You seem to have a set of priorities and values in life that are commendable but to transpose them to Sterling is unreasonable given this guy's past.

As for donating money.... he's given away 200M over the years to inner cities and "rights" organizations.... Heck they were going to give him a second "Life time achievement award" he's given them so much.

The guys a scumbag that has lived off "bettering the inner city" for decades. More money into that system is not really a good thing. It keeps getting poured in and guys like Sterling keep getting rich and the people keep getting screwed.
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Postby dmaul on Wed Jun 04, 2014 8:37 pm

Rooscooter wrote:
dmaul wrote:^ This may sound dumb and cliche to most people but money isn't everything. People in here are lamenting that poor Sterling gets to walk away with 2 billion for being a racist. Believe me, I wouldn't want that money if it meant that was your legacy, what the world remembered you by, and the shame brought on your family name. This is especially true in his situation. He's near the end of his life already and maybe the cancer is not gone. He lost his son a year or two ago. So really, what is all that money going to do for Sterling at this point, with whatever little time he has left?

But like all wealthy individuals they have a chance to somewhat atone for the seedy things they did in their life, on their way to acquiring that wealth or because they are just natural born scumbags. They can rewrite their legacy and give it all away. My opinion of Sterling would absolutely do a 180 if he donated all of that 2 billion to cancer research or uplifting every public school in the inner cities of this country. I would absolutely forgive him.


Shame? This guy's been doing MUCH worse than the comments he made to his girlfriend.... He's actually acted on his prejudice in the past. This was a "dust up" compared to what he's actually done to minorities in the past in the name of money.

You seem to have a set of priorities and values in life that are commendable but to transpose them to Sterling is unreasonable given this guy's past.

As for donating money.... he's given away 200M over the years to inner cities and "rights" organizations.... Heck they were going to give him a second "Life time achievement award" he's given them so much.

The guys a scumbag that has lived off "bettering the inner city" for decades. More money into that system is not really a good thing. It keeps getting poured in and guys like Sterling keep getting rich and the people keep getting screwed.

I made those statements regarding Sterling with optimism in mind. Of course, I understand this is contradictory and does not reflect his past. But in his defense, although he is a despicable person he is not a monster. He's not Adolph Hitler or Pol Pot. Heck, he's not even OJ Simpson or Robert Blake. I would never begrudge any one for giving away any amount of money to a worthy cause. So call me naive, but I do believe he can be redeemed.

I'm trying to put myself in his situation. If I knew my life was going to be over soon what could I do given I have the means to help people. I can't take back the horrible things I've done but I can make a positive difference for other people. However, thinking this way requires that you feel guilty, that you have a conscience.
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Postby Rooscooter on Wed Jun 04, 2014 8:49 pm

dmaul wrote:
Rooscooter wrote:
dmaul wrote:^ This may sound dumb and cliche to most people but money isn't everything. People in here are lamenting that poor Sterling gets to walk away with 2 billion for being a racist. Believe me, I wouldn't want that money if it meant that was your legacy, what the world remembered you by, and the shame brought on your family name. This is especially true in his situation. He's near the end of his life already and maybe the cancer is not gone. He lost his son a year or two ago. So really, what is all that money going to do for Sterling at this point, with whatever little time he has left?

But like all wealthy individuals they have a chance to somewhat atone for the seedy things they did in their life, on their way to acquiring that wealth or because they are just natural born scumbags. They can rewrite their legacy and give it all away. My opinion of Sterling would absolutely do a 180 if he donated all of that 2 billion to cancer research or uplifting every public school in the inner cities of this country. I would absolutely forgive him.


Shame? This guy's been doing MUCH worse than the comments he made to his girlfriend.... He's actually acted on his prejudice in the past. This was a "dust up" compared to what he's actually done to minorities in the past in the name of money.

You seem to have a set of priorities and values in life that are commendable but to transpose them to Sterling is unreasonable given this guy's past.

As for donating money.... he's given away 200M over the years to inner cities and "rights" organizations.... Heck they were going to give him a second "Life time achievement award" he's given them so much.

The guys a scumbag that has lived off "bettering the inner city" for decades. More money into that system is not really a good thing. It keeps getting poured in and guys like Sterling keep getting rich and the people keep getting screwed.

I made those statements regarding Sterling with optimism in mind. Of course, I understand this is contradictory and does not reflect his past. But in his defense, although he is a despicable person he is not a monster. He's not Adolph Hitler or Pol Pot. Heck, he's not even OJ Simpson or Robert Blake. I would never begrudge any one for giving away any amount of money to a worthy cause. So call me naive, but I do believe he can be redeemed.

I'm trying to put myself in his situation. If I knew my life was going to be over soon what could I do given I have the means to help people. I can't take back the horrible things I've done but I can make a positive difference for other people. However, thinking this way requires that you feel guilty, that you have a conscience.


What you have to say is truly encouraging and commendable. More need to think the way you do.

I have a theory on donations from the very rich. It's a way of placating their guilt without having to dirty their hands. In fact its the theory I hold for most people unfortunately. Money and stuff aren't what's truly needed to change the plight of our inner cities... in fact I'd say it's why they are in the shape they are in. Rather than vote for someone who will dump money into a system that created Donald Sterlings and Donald Trumps we need to actually help people face to face. The system doesn't need more money.... it needs to be torn down.
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Re: Donald Sterling: 2 Billion Ballmer bid!

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Wed Jun 04, 2014 9:49 pm

So in the end Sterling wins and wins big. The League could of done a lot to him had they, like Cuban suggested many times (after the fact mind you), that they take their time. The allowed public outrage at "the man" to make them not make a sound business decisions since the nba is a business. Good job NBA you showed him.
For what it's worth, the Lakers also clinched the Pacific Division, an achievement Bryant dismissed by saying "We don't hang divisions." No, only the big NBA championship banners are considered wall-worthy for the Lakers.
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Re: Donald Sterling: 2 Billion Ballmer bid!

Postby therealdeal on Thu Jun 05, 2014 9:13 am

I'm sorry but I'd throw my family in a well for 2 billion dollars. :man10:

For 2 billion dollars I could buy a new family and a new well.
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Re: Donald Sterling: 2 Billion Ballmer bid!

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Thu Jun 05, 2014 10:59 am

Id put your family in the well
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Re: Donald Sterling: 2 Billion Ballmer bid!

Postby therealdeal on Thu Jun 05, 2014 11:01 am

That's not cool man, that's my family. :disagree:
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