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Postby Weezy on Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:05 am

How can he be allowed to continue to be an owner if this is real him? What if, for example, the Clippers somehow won the title? Can you imagine this guy at halfcourt accepting the trophy? There's no way.
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Re: Donald Sterling at it again... but caught on tape this time.

Postby TheOp on Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:54 am

Ok now I really really really want the Clippers to lose.
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Re: Donald Sterling at it again... but caught on tape this time.

Postby Basketball Fan on Sat Apr 26, 2014 12:00 pm

Weezy wrote:How can he be allowed to continue to be an owner if this is real him? What if, for example, the Clippers somehow won the title? Can you imagine this guy at halfcourt accepting the trophy? There's no way.



Because he has $$$$ and the rest of the NBA knew this about him lets not kid ourselves here.

This will be a big deal for a few days then it will go away and the Clippers will get bounced from the playoffs and so will this story.

Just watch
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Re: Donald Sterling at it again... but caught on tape this time.

Postby TheOp on Sat Apr 26, 2014 12:09 pm

Basketball Fan wrote:
Weezy wrote:How can he be allowed to continue to be an owner if this is real him? What if, for example, the Clippers somehow won the title? Can you imagine this guy at halfcourt accepting the trophy? There's no way.



Because he has $$$$ and the rest of the NBA knew this about him lets not kid ourselves here.

This will be a big deal for a few days then it will go away and the Clippers will get bounced from the playoffs and so will this story.

Just watch


I wish you were right, but I fear the Clippers could POSSIBLY make the finals and perhaps win it. The West looks vulnerable all of a sudden. The Spurs are struggling with the Mavs. The Thunder look lost. The Clippers will have home court vs any other team. I just hope someone knocks them out soon.
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Postby Basketball Fan on Sat Apr 26, 2014 12:13 pm

The Grizzlies are very capable of winning the West and they have my support since the Pacers aren't going to win it all this year obviously
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Re: Donald Sterling at it again... but caught on tape this time.

Postby karacha on Sat Apr 26, 2014 12:17 pm

I... honestly, I'm not even sure where to start. Wow.
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Re: Donald Sterling at it again... but caught on tape this time.

Postby DJ-RaZ-Q#24 on Sat Apr 26, 2014 12:21 pm

Wow

just make him sell the Clippers (to Seattle) and give us Doc and Paul as a fine :man11:
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Re: Donald Sterling at it again... but caught on tape this time.

Postby TheOp on Sat Apr 26, 2014 12:27 pm

DJ-RaZ-Q#24 wrote:Wow

just make him sell the Clippers (to Seattle) and give us Doc and Paul as a fine :man11:



No thanks to Doc.

As for Paul, iv'e started to dislike his flopping act. Though he would make us infinitely better.
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Postby jimbo327 on Sat Apr 26, 2014 12:55 pm

Stern giving CP3 and Doc to the Clippers. Karma.

I don't know how any black player can stand to be on the Clippers and working for a racist. Fans need to wake the F up, and make a stand. Yeah, Clipper Darrell, you are supporting an owner that despises your kind.

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Postby Jellincon on Sat Apr 26, 2014 1:00 pm

Donald Sterling is the NBA's and its owners' mess, not Chris Paul's and the Clippers'

By Adrian Wojnarowski
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For now, everyone's turning to the wrong people to make owner Donald Sterling accountable for a lifetime of deviance. From Chris Paul to Doc Rivers, they're asking the African-American leaders of these Los Angeles Clippers to make a stand while missing the years and years of those responsible for the true negligence.

Sterling has never been a Clippers problem, but an NBA problem. The commissioner's office believed Sterling was sick and dying, that he would go away, and only he comes back to haunt and embarrass the NBA again. The NBA deserved those audio tapes to come out from TMZ. The owners and commissioner's office deserved for Sterling to reveal himself again publicly as a racist and scoundrel.

This isn't about Chris Paul, the president of the National Basketball Players Association. This isn't about Doc Rivers, the president and coach of the Clippers. It isn't on them to make declarations and stage protests now. The NBA chooses its owners, and it makes its rules. It wields an iron fist with executives, coaches and players, and now it needs to do its job to begin the process of removing him as an owner.

"The content of his lawsuits alone should have been acted on, but the other members of the club – in addition to Stern – should have [held him] accountable," one high-level NBA official told Yahoo Sports on Saturday. "But no one would touch it. We were always holding players, teams and coaches accountable, yet the standard for owners has been a double standard."

In the middle of a playoff series, in a championship chase, star players are supposed to make a stand on a degenerate owner? Get lost with that nonsense. This is letting the NBA off too easy, letting it stay silent and inactive when that's what it's mostly been for decades on Sterling.



Clippers owner Donald Sterling has been sued multiple times for racial discrimination. (USA Today)
As president of the union, Chris Paul's message should be simple: This is the owners' and commissioner's mess, and they need to deal with it.
There are a handful of glamour markets in the NBA, and the owners have let Sterling control a part of one for years. No players and coaches have ever boycotted the Clippers because they knew he was a slumlord and a racist, and never will.

For all the chances Stern had to make a move on Sterling, it never happened because the NBA's owners never pushed Stern to do it. These owners were willing to live with Sterling, willing to be embarrassed by him.

As the NBA official said, "Being an owner comes with an obligation to your business partners that extends beyond just a fiduciary responsibility."

Whatever Chris Paul and Doc Rivers want to do here, that's on them. They don't have a responsibility, because it belongs to someone else. The NBA has long insisted it stands for something bigger than basketball, that its sports' most progressive league, and Donald Sterling has always been the counter to that case. The league had hoped this sick, miserable old man would fade away, only he rose to humiliate them again. The National Basketball Association deserves Donald Sterling now, deserves him more than ever. Once and for all, it needs to deal with him.


http://sports.yahoo.com/news/donald-sterling-is-the-nba-s-and-its-owners--mess-to-clean-up--not-chis-paul-s-and-the-clippers-181729322.html
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Re: Donald Sterling at it again... but caught on tape this time.

Postby Jazzygirl205 on Sat Apr 26, 2014 1:40 pm

Yay! More reasons to hate the Clippers!
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Re: Donald Sterling at it again... but caught on tape this time.

Postby Rooscooter on Sat Apr 26, 2014 1:52 pm

Jellincon wrote:
Donald Sterling is the NBA's and its owners' mess, not Chris Paul's and the Clippers'

By Adrian Wojnarowski
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For now, everyone's turning to the wrong people to make owner Donald Sterling accountable for a lifetime of deviance. From Chris Paul to Doc Rivers, they're asking the African-American leaders of these Los Angeles Clippers to make a stand while missing the years and years of those responsible for the true negligence.

Sterling has never been a Clippers problem, but an NBA problem. The commissioner's office believed Sterling was sick and dying, that he would go away, and only he comes back to haunt and embarrass the NBA again. The NBA deserved those audio tapes to come out from TMZ. The owners and commissioner's office deserved for Sterling to reveal himself again publicly as a racist and scoundrel.

This isn't about Chris Paul, the president of the National Basketball Players Association. This isn't about Doc Rivers, the president and coach of the Clippers. It isn't on them to make declarations and stage protests now. The NBA chooses its owners, and it makes its rules. It wields an iron fist with executives, coaches and players, and now it needs to do its job to begin the process of removing him as an owner.

"The content of his lawsuits alone should have been acted on, but the other members of the club – in addition to Stern – should have [held him] accountable," one high-level NBA official told Yahoo Sports on Saturday. "But no one would touch it. We were always holding players, teams and coaches accountable, yet the standard for owners has been a double standard."

In the middle of a playoff series, in a championship chase, star players are supposed to make a stand on a degenerate owner? Get lost with that nonsense. This is letting the NBA off too easy, letting it stay silent and inactive when that's what it's mostly been for decades on Sterling.



Clippers owner Donald Sterling has been sued multiple times for racial discrimination. (USA Today)
As president of the union, Chris Paul's message should be simple: This is the owners' and commissioner's mess, and they need to deal with it.
There are a handful of glamour markets in the NBA, and the owners have let Sterling control a part of one for years. No players and coaches have ever boycotted the Clippers because they knew he was a slumlord and a racist, and never will.

For all the chances Stern had to make a move on Sterling, it never happened because the NBA's owners never pushed Stern to do it. These owners were willing to live with Sterling, willing to be embarrassed by him.

As the NBA official said, "Being an owner comes with an obligation to your business partners that extends beyond just a fiduciary responsibility."

Whatever Chris Paul and Doc Rivers want to do here, that's on them. They don't have a responsibility, because it belongs to someone else. The NBA has long insisted it stands for something bigger than basketball, that its sports' most progressive league, and Donald Sterling has always been the counter to that case. The league had hoped this sick, miserable old man would fade away, only he rose to humiliate them again. The National Basketball Association deserves Donald Sterling now, deserves him more than ever. Once and for all, it needs to deal with him.


http://sports.yahoo.com/news/donald-sterling-is-the-nba-s-and-its-owners--mess-to-clean-up--not-chis-paul-s-and-the-clippers-181729322.html



I typically like Woj, but the title is nuts. Why not just say the players? Why single out NBA darling Paul? Remember that the NBA gave them Paul and then gave Paul endorsement deals with the NBA partners. That's what this is about. Need to separate the spokesperson from the comments and having a respected NBA writer do it helps.

If Paul has an issue with the comments and doesn't say anything..... That will be more reflective of Paul than it is on the NBA......
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Re: Donald Sterling at it again... but caught on tape this time.

Postby TheOp on Sat Apr 26, 2014 2:07 pm

Lol at Snoops response

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These comments by Sterling are going to be devastating to the Clippers. I doubt any celebs especially black ones are going to be interested in going to Clipper games now. Now going to a Clipper game is supporting a racist owner. They could get rid of Sterling but I dont know if you can ever remove that stench now.
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Postby kenzo on Sat Apr 26, 2014 2:14 pm

It will all be forgotten in less than a month.
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Re: Donald Sterling at it again... but caught on tape this time.

Postby TheOp on Sat Apr 26, 2014 2:22 pm

kenzo wrote:It will all be forgotten in less than a month.


Maybe in the news or the media but not for players, free agents, and fans.
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Postby Weezy on Sat Apr 26, 2014 2:34 pm

I don't see this being forgotten if it all is confirmed that this is true. I know the guy has a history of getting away with this stuff, but this feels different, I don't see this fading away very easy, at least there's no way it should be allowed to fade away. Not by Silver, not by the other owners, not by the players, or fans.

The players there NOW and the coaches need to do their job and keep trying to win, this is about their legacies, not the owner's. The fans should continue to support thr team as well IMO, none of this should ruin their fun or hurt the players by lack of support. Going forward though, if Sterling isn't forced to sell, then I would think this hurts them signing free agents, with their coach (current or searching for the next), with their fans, etc, he's gotta go.
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Re: Donald Sterling at it again... but caught on tape this time.

Postby Jellincon on Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:02 pm

NBA investigating if Clippers owner Donald Sterling made racist comments
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The NBA is investigating whether racially insensitive comments in an audio recording obtained by TMZ were made by Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling.

"The remarks heard on the recording are disturbing and offensive, but at this time we have no further information," NBA executive vice president of communication Mike Bass said. He also said the league is conducting a "full investigation."

MAGIC OUT: Johnson vows he won't attend Clippers games

OUTRAGE: Players, coaches react to comments

The players union is also looking into the situation, according to president Chris Paul, who is also the Clippers point guard.

"On behalf of the National Basketball Players Association, this is a very serious issue which we will address aggressively," Paul said in a statement. "We have asked Mayor Kevin Johnson to expand his responsibilities with the NBPA, to determine our response and our next steps. As players, we owe it to our teams and our fans to keep our focus on our game, the playoffs, and the drive to the Finals."

Sacramento mayor Kevin Johnson, who is helping the union find its next executive director, called for an investigation and possible punishment.

"The reported comments made by Clippers owner Donald Sterling are reprehensible and unacceptable," Johnson said in a statement. "The National Basketball Players Association must and will play a very active role in determining how this issue is addressed.

"There needs to be an immediate investigation and if the reports are true, there needs to be strong and swift action taken. I have spoken with NBPA President Chris Paul and will be leading the NBPA in addressing the implications of this serious matter. I will be formally reaching out to the NBA today to determine our next steps. While I originally came on to lead the Executive Director search, this issue requires immediate attention from the players association. I will be keeping Chris Paul, the Executive Committee, and all player representatives informed of every step."

This is NBA commissioner's Adam Silver first major issue to resolve since replacing David Stern in February, and the union, players and coaches are awaiting his response.

In the nearly 10-minute recording, the person asked a female associate "why are you taking pictures with minorities, why?" and told her not to bring to Lakers Hall of Famer Magic Johnson to Clippers games.

In an audio obtained by TMZ and posted on its web site, the person said it bothers him that she posted photos of herself with black people on her Instagram account. After a recent Clippers game, the woman took a picture with Johnson.

"Don't put him on an Instagram for the world to have to see so they have to call me. … And don't bring him to my games, OK?" the person said on the audio recording.

"Yeah, it bothers me a lot that you want to promo, broadcast that you're associating with black people. Do you have to?" person also said.

Johnson responded on Twitter Saturday: "LA Clippers owner Donald Sterling's comments about African Americans are a black eye for the NBA."

And, "I feel sorry for my friends Coach Doc Rivers and Chris Paul that they have to work for a man that feels that way about African Americans."



One Clippers player who spoke to USA TODAY Sports on the condition of anonymity expressed great anger and frustration over the situation, but said it was unclear how the players would react as a whole.

Clippers center DeAndre Jordan posted a picture on his Instagram account that was presumably a reaction of the social media sort: an all black shot of darkness with no caption.

Former Clippers point guard Baron Davis, who had well-chronicled battles with Sterling during his time there, wrote on his Twitter account, also presumably about Sterling, "That's the way it is ... He is honest about what he believes in..Been going on for a long time, Hats off 2 the Team.. 4 playin above it all."

Saying the comments were upsetting to him and the team, Clippers coach Doc Rivers said the team will not boycott Game 4.

"I'm disappointed in the comments made," Golden State Warriors coach Mark Jackson told reporters Saturday. "It's unfortunate. I believe there's no place in society for those feelings. It's just sad."

Jackson played for the Clippers in 1992-93 and 1993-94. He didn't say what he would do if he played for the them now.

"My feeling would be the same, no matter if I was coaching, playing or a fan. There's no place for it. … In fairness, I'm not in their position, and that's their fight – as far as that's the uniform that they wear," Jackson told reporters. "From my standpoint, it's important for me to let it be known that it's unacceptable, it's unfortunate, and I'm disappointed in the statements. There's no place for it."

He also didn't suggest what the league should do.

"We have a great commissioner, and I'm sure the powers that be will do their homework and then make the proper decisions," Jackson said. "This is the real world. I'll go out on a limb and say that the statements that were made, there are other people in this world who feel that way. Let's not be naïve. … There are people in the world, who own a lot of stuff and feel that way."

Civil Rights Leader Jesse Jackson has called for the Clippers to boycott, while other prominent African Americans have also taken strong stances against the comments allegedly made by Sterling. Well-known rap artist Snoop Dogg posted a profanity-laced video on his Instagram account condemning Sterling.

In March, Sterling's wife, Rochelle, filed a lawsuit alleging the woman, identified as V. Stiviano, had an affair with her husband, according to Los Angeles' CBS affiliate reported in March.

In 2005, Sterling, a real estate tycoon, agreed to pay an undisclosed amount in a lawsuit that alleged Sterling tried to force Koreans out of apartments in Koreatown.

In 2009, Sterling paid a then-record $2.73 million Justice Department penalty for rental housing discrimination.

If the league determines the person the recording is Sterling, it's not immediately clear what action if any it could take. Former Cincinnati Reds owner Marge Schott was twice banned from day-to-day baseball operations for racist and anti-Semitic comments.

The league might have to consider that Sterling was speaking privately and quite likely did not know was being recorded.

Sterling, the NBA's longest-tenured owner, has owned the Clippers since 1981. The Clippers have a 2-1 lead against the Golden State Warriors in their best-of-seven first-round series. Game 4 is Sunday in Oakland.

The male voice on the recording made it clear he doesn't want the woman to be seen in public with minorities. "You can sleep with them, you can bring them in, you can do whatever you want. The little that I ask you is not to promote it on that … and not to bring them to my games," the person said.

He said she could associate with minorities privately and asked, "Why publicize it on the Instagram and why bring it to my games?"

The person also tried to explain he is "living in a culture, and I have to live within the culture. So that's the way it is."

When the woman told the person he associates with black people, he replied, "I'm not you, and you're not me."

The woman told him she's sorry he feels that way and he answered, "I feel that way so strongly, and it may cause our relationship to just break apart. And if it does, it does."

At one point he told her, "maybe you're stupid."


http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/clippers/2014/04/26/donald-sterling-clippers-audio-recording-racist/8202135/
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Re: Donald Sterling at it again... but caught on tape this time.

Postby LTLakerFan on Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:40 pm

Sterling is a poster boy for the Peter Principle +. The plus is just being out there now with proof in public what a peter…. errrr prick he really is, and then in the classic sense. All these years of sucking and finally by way of Stern gifting him the possibility of actually finally having a team to contend with at a high level, he blows himself up with his sick flaws as a human being. Karma is a b***ch. :disagree:
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Postby Weezy on Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:44 pm

How awkward is it that Paul is the president of the players association and the owner of his team is involved in this? How awkward that he has to address this as president and then go out and play a game for this man's franchise tomorrow. I stand by what I said above that Sterling needs to be forced to sell, but man, reading player tweets that this has been known and going on for years and years it's almost like, will he really have to? He's gotten away with it forever, and like in the article above where Sterling (or "the man on the tape") says he has to live within a culture and that's the way it is, it makes me wonder how many other owners or persons in positions of power in the NBA or those businesses associated with it that all run it, are also racists. If this has been allowed to go on for decades, the question to me is "why?".
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Postby TheOp on Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:03 pm

Weezy wrote:How awkward is it that Paul is the president of the players association and the owner of his team is involved in this? How awkward that he has to address this as president and then go out and play a game for this man's franchise tomorrow. I stand by what I said above that Sterling needs to be forced to sell, but man, reading player tweets that this has been known and going on for years and years it's almost like, will he really have to? He's gotten away with it forever, and like in the article above where Sterling (or "the man on the tape") says he has to live within a culture and that's the way it is, it makes me wonder how many other owners or persons in positions of power in the NBA or those businesses associated with it that all run it, are also racists. If this has been allowed to go on for decades, the question to me is "why?".


Can they really force him to sell over this though? I kind of doubt that scenario happens.

Whats more realistic is Sterling willingly selling the team cause you can be sure no free agent is gonna want to play there now.
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Postby Rooscooter on Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:05 pm

Weezy wrote:How awkward is it that Paul is the president of the players association and the owner of his team is involved in this? How awkward that he has to address this as president and then go out and play a game for this man's franchise tomorrow. I stand by what I said above that Sterling needs to be forced to sell, but man, reading player tweets that this has been known and going on for years and years it's almost like, will he really have to? He's gotten away with it forever, and like in the article above where Sterling (or "the man on the tape") says he has to live within a culture and that's the way it is, it makes me wonder how many other owners or persons in positions of power in the NBA or those businesses associated with it that all run it, are also racists. If this has been allowed to go on for decades, the question to me is "why?".


While not acceptable one bit..... His comments are not nearly as inflammatory as the ones made by Biden and Reid in regard to Our President when he was running for office..... Last I checked each of those guys still has their job and there was little media attention. This will end the same way IMO.

This is as much if not more about elitism as it is about race. Note that a black man of equal statue is OK (Magic)..... Not what true racists think IMO. True racism is totalitarian in its view.
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Postby CaCHooKa Man on Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:19 pm

oust him as owner and move the team to seattle. two birds with one stone.
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Postby DarthRekal on Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:22 pm

CaCHooKa Man wrote:oust him as owner and move the team to seattle. two birds with one stone.

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Postby Kasumi on Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:24 pm

Hey! Why punish Seattle in this whole mix?
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