Dwight Coward Discussion

Re: Dwight Coward Discussion

Postby kenzo on Sat Nov 09, 2013 6:38 am

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Re: Dwight Coward Discussion

Postby Sirron on Sat Nov 09, 2013 6:44 am

That is sheer brilliance. It's like he's playing chess when the rest of them are playing checkers. He's sooo in his head. :bow:
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Re: Dwight Coward Discussion

Postby therealdeal on Sat Nov 09, 2013 10:41 am

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Re: Dwight Coward Discussion

Postby Rooscooter on Sat Nov 09, 2013 12:19 pm

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Ras Algethi wrote:Dont understand why commentators are harping on Dwight should want the ball more. That's exactly what opposing teams want. He's a horrible offensive player. That's just going to stagnant Houston's offense.

Exactly. I would leave him single covered every time. Yet same said commentators would end up sniping at Howard for not improving on his post game. Unless I am wrong, I don't recall him being doubled or even triple teamed much for that matter on the low block.


Why commit additional defenders to someone that shoots about 35% in the post and about 43% on non-dunks? That is what he's done in his career and the trajectory is dead level..... no improvement whatsoever.

The commentators are trying to get him to get better by the sniping. Shaq is especially critical because a lot of people compare the two. It has to be an insult to Shaq and quite frankly I'm surprised he takes as well as he does.

Barkley is on Howard and Griffin both because they are both so weak fundamentally. One of the few things I like Chuck doing/saying actually. He worked his butt off to get better continually during his career and I'm sure he's frustrated watching the NBA drool over two guys that basically couldn't carry his jock when he was their ages. It was a much more "results driven" pecking order back then.... these guys are like circus performers now.... if they can do a highlight play while sucking at most everything else they get the accolades over guys that just perform night in and night out.....
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Re: Dwight Coward Discussion

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:27 am

Dwight is having fun in Houston :bow:
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Re: Dwight Coward Discussion

Postby purp n gold on Sun Nov 10, 2013 2:11 am

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purp n gold wrote:I love it all. Reading through these tweets is oddly like the doomsday thread :man10:


With his "GM" act and yelling already at others….. he's too dumb to realize it yet but he has already done it. Stepped right into a bleep storm only 6 games into the season with his new team, that he was going (in his words to Cuban) to be "EPIC" with. LMFAO. The public and even ESPN is so divided on this guy, leaning toward negative, that it is all about to come crashing down on him. Unless he suddenly has an epiphany. I think he is too self absorbed to have an epiphany so this season is going to be FUN. He may make LeBron's season after "The Decision" and losing to Dallas after that, look like child's play. Because like others have said, he never developed skills to buckle down and develop further to a needed level for the position he plays. LeBron only got out of hell because he has many more skills and he finally won. He almost fell right back into it in that last minute of that collapse against San Antonio. Welcome to that Dwight. :man10: :man10: LBJ had potential to become a WINNER. Dwight don't.


Like that tweeter said, until a McHale, or any other coach convinces Dwight to become a center version of Dennis Rodman, I don't see an epiphany coming for him.

You're on to something. In my opinion, one of the worst qualities of LBJ's decision was how unbelievably manufactured the whole process appeared. I did not like being fed a spoon of BS. For Dwight haters like ourselves, I think the best part about watching the Dwightmare is realizing how legitimate, or real, his mental problems are. In this superstar era of pro-sports, he might go down as the most tragic case of "wants to be the guy for all the wrong reasons".

The decision obviously vilified LBJ. This was confounded by playing poorly in the clutch and losing to the Mavs in the finals. But there was always a large amount of statistical evidence that suggested that he was steadily getting better. And we eventually saw the improvements too - he grew from a good defender to an elite/all time defender, added 3 pt range, then his post game, and now his midrange shot is very good. It is difficult to root for him, but an objective basketball fan understands why he's as good as he is.

If aliens somehwere were monitoring the performance of NBA players, they would have seen the LBJ wave coming. We couldn't because he's a douchebag.

As for Mr. Coward, we've CLEARLY seen his weaknesses remain unaddressed and the numbers suggest that he's regressing. He put it together for a couple of years with the right coach, StanVan, but he won't ever get to that point on his own.
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Re: Dwight Coward Discussion

Postby Doc Brown on Sun Nov 10, 2013 6:39 am

All this dude does is chirp at his teammates. Every mistake they make he just looks at them with disgust. Lin/Asik are the only respectable players on that team, the rest of them just act like entitled douchebags.

I used to like Parsons, but now he just seems like he's that, "My s*** don't stink type of player". I hope that team fails big time, which they will because they look like crap as a team, because Howard/Harden have no idea how to be a leader on a team.
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Re: Dwight Coward Discussion

Postby LTLakerFan on Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:30 am

^^^ And this squad has no MAN like Bryant to check Clown and the other prima donnas. Who wouldn't love to have heard that "air it out" meeting in Memphis last year when Kobe had had enough of his back stabbing and sniping. The tension in Houston's locker room is going to get ugly this year. Clown and Beard Pecker have all the leverage with the money tied up in them. McHale tries to go old school on their mentality……see ya!!
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Re: Dwight Coward Discussion

Postby Rooscooter on Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:20 am

^^To be fair.... no other team as a MAN like Kobe.....

Howard is an athletic phenomena that never learned the game..... he was hyped by the league and every dunk was put on ESPN.... he's 10 years in and still can't make a consistent post move to save his life. He needs constant chaos created by someone else to get easy dunks and that's about it. He is very good at help defense as well but the overall package is not even a top 10 player in today's game IMHO. When your team has to make sure you don't touch the ball on the offensive end with less than 4 minutes left in close games you are not top 10 regardless of what you do the other 44 minutes..... what he does in those other minutes isn't all that special either.
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Re: Dwight Coward Discussion

Postby dak22 on Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:36 am

LTLakerFan wrote:^^^ And this squad has no MAN like Bryant to check Clown and the other prima donnas. Who wouldn't love to have heard that "air it out" meeting in Memphis last year when Kobe had had enough of his back stabbing and sniping. The tension in Houston's locker room is going to get ugly this year. Clown and Beard Pecker have all the leverage with the money tied up in them. McHale tries to go old school on their mentality……see ya!!


That's the catch-22.

If you have someone to check him: he goes into his own shell and causes chemistry issues due to not trying at all (see last season).

If you don't have someone to check him: he runs wild and causes chemistry issues due to his antics (see this season for now).

Untill Howard overcomes his mental issues, he'll lead squat to a championship.
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Re: Dwight Coward Discussion

Postby Doc Brown on Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:21 pm

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Re: Dwight Coward Discussion

Postby Ras Algethi on Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:37 pm

Dwight has lost a good deal of that freak athleticism he use to have.
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Re: Dwight Coward Discussion

Postby abeer3 on Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:47 pm

he's looked pretty much like he did last year thus far. what makes me laugh is that he may be even more marginalized in Houston's offense; he just has to shut up about it because his q-rating is already in the toilet.
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Re: Dwight Coward Discussion

Postby Doc Brown on Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:50 pm

abeer3 wrote:he's looked pretty much like he did last year thus far. what makes me laugh is that he may be even more marginalized in Houston's offense; he just has to shut up about it because his q-rating is already in the toilet.


I think I've watched 3.5 games so far of the Rockets and he doesn't look anything like Orlando Dwight. I agree about the being marginalized in the offense. I could probably count the number of post up opportunities he's gotten with on two hands.

They don't go to him in the 2nd half, late game, OT. It's pretty funny because like you said, he can't cry about it.
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Re: Dwight Coward Discussion

Postby Doc Brown on Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:45 am

Ras Algethi wrote:Dwight has lost a good deal of that freak athleticism he use to have.


Here is another one of him getting blocked by the rim.

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Re: Dwight Coward Discussion

Postby therealdeal on Tue Nov 12, 2013 12:21 pm

He's missing the athleticism and he hasn't developed his game at all. He's much smaller than he was in Orlando.

I give it maybe 2 more years before he's almost a footnote in the NBA. A Vince Carter type player.
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Re: Dwight Coward Discussion

Postby Juronimo on Tue Nov 12, 2013 12:36 pm

I guess Dwight stopped using HGH. He's much smaller than he was even last season.
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Re: Dwight Coward Discussion

Postby Weezy on Tue Nov 12, 2013 1:33 pm

Man am I glad we didn't give this guy $100 million dollars for 5 years.
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Re: Dwight Coward Discussion

Postby therealdeal on Tue Nov 12, 2013 2:09 pm

Weezy wrote:Man am I glad we didn't give this guy $100 million dollars for 5 years.

It's funny to me...

If he took the money to stay here, he'd also be taking the responsibility of the franchise too. He might not have changed much, but it would have changed a little of the attitude that everyone hates from him now. He's not likable anymore, his flaws are accentuated... In LA at least he'd have his likability back which would probably help him as a person.

Maybe if he'd stayed he'd have grown up? Just taking the contract would have been a good step in the right direction. Now he's in a situation where he's king of the castle and he doesn't HAVE to change. There's no pressure to improve. Now he's regressing and everything negative about him is consuming his image.
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Re: Dwight Coward Discussion

Postby abeer3 on Tue Nov 12, 2013 2:53 pm

despite all my trashing of howard, i wanted him to stay and still think the team would be better off had he stayed. the fact that he's flawed shouldn't obscure the fact that he's still the most dominant defensive force in the game. the lakers sure could use someone to control the glass right now; that's for sure.

and i think his attitude has improved--or at least he's in no position to gripe anymore, so he doesn't. that's improvement over what we got to deal with here.

i hope he fails hard because he deserves it, but 18/16 is 18/16. i do agree with others that he seems to have hit a plateau, and i don't foresee him ever fulfilling his tremendous promise mostly due to his psychological issues.

but i doubt the lakers have a better center than that any time in the next 5-10 years.
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Re: Dwight Coward Discussion

Postby therealdeal on Tue Nov 12, 2013 3:19 pm

I agree, but the bigger question is will we need one? There aren't any real dominant bigs in the NBA right now and the league isn't run by them because of it. Over the next 5 years I suspect many, if not most, successful teams won't employ a true dominating Center.
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Re: Dwight Coward Discussion

Postby Vasashi17 on Tue Nov 12, 2013 3:27 pm

^^^Let me piggy back off that sentiment...

I wanted us to resign Dwight as well. If it worked out and he became the face of the franchise...great.

If not, then you knew how many teams coveted his services (ie Dwightmare) and he would have made one hell of a trading chip. Of course if a no-trade clause was incorporated in the literature of his contract, then it would make it a bit tougher to move him, but at the same time it would be satisfying to possibly make him squirm by limiting his possible destinations and threatening him with a future of Kobe death stares.

As of right now, we do have alot of cap opening up, but what exactly is the FA draw if we have no one on the roster to sell em on? With Dwight on the roster, you could either sell potential FAs with that, or the possibility of moving Dwight for someone that fits better with any incoming personnel.
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Re: Dwight Coward Discussion

Postby The Rock on Tue Nov 12, 2013 4:50 pm

Who would've ever thought with ZERO leverage, Rob Hennigan and the Magic would turn out to be overwhelming winners when that big Howard trade was made? Iggy left Denver, Bynum didnt play a single game in Philly & he left, Howard of course left here.

Magic ended up with Vucevic, Afflalo, ton of capspace and Moe Harkless. Those are gonna be 3 above average players for their primes in their positions and the ability to add a star and flexibility in roster. Sick
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Re: Dwight Coward Discussion

Postby Balance&Options24 on Tue Nov 12, 2013 5:30 pm

^ not to mention they got a high draft pick who turned out to be Victor Olapido who looks pretty damn good.
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Re: Dwight Coward Discussion

Postby abeer3 on Tue Nov 12, 2013 5:34 pm

I don't know if anyone could have known vucevic would transform overnight. also, harris appears to be much better than most thought, too. perhaps hennigan was a genius, but maybe he was a bit lucky, too?
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