Eastern Conference Finals: (1) Heat vs (3) Pacers

Re: Eastern Conference Finals: (1) Heat vs (3) Pacers

Postby revgen on Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:48 pm

That's why Gerald Green doesn't stick in the NBA. He makes dumb decisions and acts like he did nothing wrong.
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Re: Eastern Conference Finals: (1) Heat vs (3) Pacers

Postby V.V.V.V.V. on Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:58 pm

Now I remember why I hate Miami fans. All these soccer fans singing together during the game.
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Re: Eastern Conference Finals: (1) Heat vs (3) Pacers

Postby BDG on Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:01 pm

Question ... does Granger make a difference in this series if he plays?
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Re: Eastern Conference Finals: (1) Heat vs (3) Pacers

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:09 pm

Well now we will hear about how Lebron made Wade better today.
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Re: Eastern Conference Finals: (1) Heat vs (3) Pacers

Postby Rooscooter on Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:15 pm

BDG wrote:Question ... does Granger make a difference in this series if he plays?


While I like Miami losing like anyone.... I don't see the relevance of this. Does a fully healthy Wade make a difference?

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Re: Eastern Conference Finals: (1) Heat vs (3) Pacers

Postby Basketball Fan on Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:18 pm

Watching this game makes me rage how we blew Game 1

That has come back to haunt us.

I didn't think we were going to win this series but I felt we really outplayed the Heat in this series and we lost go figure.

The Pacers at home are totally different than on the road.

Good Bye Pacers thanks for a great season see you in October :man6:
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Re: Eastern Conference Finals: (1) Heat vs (3) Pacers

Postby JSM on Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:19 pm

BDG wrote:Question ... does Granger make a difference in this series if he plays?

Maybe if he came off the bench. I didn't like his fit with the starters once it became George's team. They could have certainly used a spark when George and Hibbert were on the pine.

I think adding instant offense from someone like Crawford this summer wouldn't be a bad idea.
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Re: Eastern Conference Finals: (1) Heat vs (3) Pacers

Postby Finwë on Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:33 pm

Rooscooter wrote:75K for letting a word slip..... 5K for cheating.... :disagree:

Freaking PC crap.....

Just saw this post. Agreed 100%
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Re: Eastern Conference Finals: (1) Heat vs (3) Pacers

Postby Forward Three on Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:47 pm

Miami did rise to the event and played the way they were supposed to. They had some defensive stretches that were absolutely as good as it gets. Double teaming everyone, still having the wherewithal to rotate and help the helper. Looked like 6 v 5 at times defensively, and sure you can say that they get away with pushing and holding, and it's true and it is annoying, but even with that, they still played absolutely crushing defense for times and that rattled an already rattled Pacers team.

But ultimately, that's what lost this game. The Pacers flinched. It only took until about 4 minutes into the second quarter but they simply never played strongly for the remainder of the game. They missed easy shots, they turned the ball over, including many unforced errors, they continued to lag on "help the helper" rotations and rim protection, they seemed to never get any offense boards while allowing the Heat to get several, and they just all around didn't appear to play with desperation or hustle needed to win.

Basically, even if you take out the BS and just give Miami what they took, the Pacers still lose this game, maybe only by 5-10 or so, but they still lose.


Which is disappointing. The Heat are a disgraceful team full of floppers, whiners and entitled children. Even when they are leading comfortably they still whine and flop as much as they can, and when games aren't going their way they pout. Just the flopping alone is disgraceful enough, it's worse than the Clippers at this point. Chalmers, Birdman, Wade, Lebron... all of them had at least one flop tonight.

Not going to be watching The Finals, don't care about the Spurs enough, but I hope they can get it done, beat this abomination of a team in Miami.
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Re: Eastern Conference Finals: (1) Heat vs (3) Pacers

Postby Forward Three on Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:51 pm

Basketball Fan wrote:Watching this game makes me rage how we blew Game 1

That has come back to haunt us.

I didn't think we were going to win this series but I felt we really outplayed the Heat in this series and we lost go figure.

The Pacers at home are totally different than on the road.

Good Bye Pacers thanks for a great season see you in October :man6:


Up until Game 7 I would say that the Pacers outplayed Miami for the majority of minutes and the majority of possessions, but after Game 7 I think those numbers basically equalized. You are very right that Game 1 'did it', that was one dumb mistake and while you can never look at it that way, since maybe if the Pacers won Game 1 they might have lost Game 2...etc. but it is still maddening to know that what was basically the better team throughout not only lost but wound up losing in a fairly humiliating and decisive manner after so damn near certainly stealing this one.

Oh well. The Pacers earned new fans after this, for better or worse, and they have a legit rivalry with Miami now, certainly something to keep an eye on moving forward.
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Re: Eastern Conference Finals: (1) Heat vs (3) Pacers

Postby Finwë on Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:07 pm

Chalmers is one of the most egregious floppers in the league. He'll be attacking the basket from the left side and I just can call it out to a friend "watch this, he's going to wait for a shred of contact, then shoot a leaner while flopping as if he was pushed, and probably get an and-1". It's obvious.
Wade is almost a flopping master, he's seriously very, very good at it. Sometimes he fools me, even though I'm expecting him to do it.
LeBron doesn't flop as often as those two but his flops are definitely going up in frequency, and him being so big, aside of shameful, makes it obvious, I can literally always notice them on live action.
Bosh flops too, and so does Haslem and Battier. It's pretty much the whole team.

Flopping aside, Miami deserved to win this game. Came out with sustained energy, didn't get caught up in the moment when they were down, played very good D and moved the ball on offense.
Bosh and Wade both looked better, especially Wade. Role players predictably did better at home, and LeBron was LeBron, effective and productive.
Pacers kinda choked.. Their O was completely stagnant, the turnovers reminded me of us trying to play the Princeton offense with Mike Brown :man10:
George failed to attack the rim the whole game, even with RAY ALLEN guarding him. Hibbert made some nice moves and contested a few shots but other than that he played a bad game. West wasn't getting in position fast enough, settled several times.
Indiana needs another year or so before they can pull it together. They need to avoid lapses like this, especially on offense.
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Re: Eastern Conference Finals: (1) Heat vs (3) Pacers

Postby Finwë on Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:23 pm

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Re: Eastern Conference Finals: (1) Heat vs (3) Pacers

Postby Weezy on Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:25 pm

I got busy running around doing some errands and helping my uncle out with something and forgot this game was even on. I knew Indiana had no chance, but still I gotta admit when I remembered this game was tonight and checked the score at 8:45 figuring it was probably over, my heart sank a little to see Miami won. :man10: championship hopes still alive for the bad guys, ugh.
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Re: Eastern Conference Finals: (1) Heat vs (3) Pacers

Postby Cleansed on Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:29 pm

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Re: Eastern Conference Finals: (1) Heat vs (3) Pacers

Postby wcsoldier81 on Tue Jun 04, 2013 12:00 am

I'm not sure I've ever seen so many bad ballhandlers on one team at this stage of the competition ... Indiana hasn't one single solid ballhandler on its team
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Re: Eastern Conference Finals: (1) Heat vs (3) Pacers

Postby Chillbongo on Tue Jun 04, 2013 11:58 am

If Indiana gets a bench they'll be back in the ECF next year.

I wonder if Granger will agree to be 6th man, and if IND will pay him to be that. Or will they try to move Granger for a bench piece or two. Which means we won't get him. But maybe that means Augustin is available. But he can't play pick and roll defense for s***. F*** the Cheat.
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Re: Eastern Conference Finals: (1) Heat vs (3) Pacers

Postby XXIV on Tue Jun 04, 2013 12:06 pm

Chillbongo wrote:If Indiana gets a bench they'll be back in the ECF next year.

I wonder if Granger will agree to be 6th man, and if IND will pay him to be that. Or will they try to move Granger for a bench piece or two. Which means we won't get him. But maybe that means Augustin is available. But he can't play pick and roll defense for s***. F*** the Cheat.


I think if they resign West they may keep Granger, otherwise they would likely try to ship him for a PF like Pau. :man12: One thing Indiana really needs though is a legit point guard, Hill wasn't a good enough ball handler which really showed when the Heat actually started to play defense.
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Re: Eastern Conference Finals: (1) Heat vs (3) Pacers

Postby therealdeal on Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:55 am

XXIV wrote:
Chillbongo wrote:If Indiana gets a bench they'll be back in the ECF next year.

I wonder if Granger will agree to be 6th man, and if IND will pay him to be that. Or will they try to move Granger for a bench piece or two. Which means we won't get him. But maybe that means Augustin is available. But he can't play pick and roll defense for s***. F*** the Cheat.


I think if they resign West they may keep Granger, otherwise they would likely try to ship him for a PF like Pau. :man12: One thing Indiana really needs though is a legit point guard, Hill wasn't a good enough ball handler which really showed when the Heat actually started to play defense.

Once Howard and Paul are off the market, Atlanta is going to throw money around. They've shown interest in West. If West goes to Atlanta, then we have a decent shot at selling them Pau for Granger. Pau is expiring and they really need someone who can help their offense. As weird as it sounds as well... West isn't much better than Pau defensively.
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