ESPN replacing Broussard Barry w/ SVG & Simmons in studio

ESPN replacing Broussard Barry w/ SVG & Simmons in studio

Postby JSM on Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:20 am

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SbB has learned Chris Broussard & Jon Barry won't returm to ESPN's NBA studio. Added to show: @sportsguy33 & Stan Van Gundy
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Re: ESPN replacing Broussard Barry w/ SVG & Simmons in studio

Postby SublimeAnarky on Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:36 am

I'm not sold on Simmons. He's a funny guy and based of everything I know/have read of his, I half expect him to be the guy pulling one-liners every thirty seconds.

SVG though will be interesting to listen to though. Definitely an upgrade.
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Re: ESPN replacing Broussard Barry w/ SVG & Simmons in studio

Postby Balance&Options24 on Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:02 am

Lebron will be pissed.
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Re: ESPN replacing Broussard Barry w/ SVG & Simmons in studio

Postby The Rock on Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:25 am

I like SVG but Bill Simmons is gonna embarrass himself. Hes not that great on TV/radio. Great writer. Not much of an interesting person to listen to live
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Re: ESPN replacing Broussard Barry w/ SVG & Simmons in studio

Postby therealdeal on Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:35 am

Anything is better than Broussard and while Barry is okay Simmons will do just as well.
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Re: ESPN replacing Broussard Barry w/ SVG & Simmons in studio

Postby Weezy on Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:56 am

Bill Simmons is a bumbling, shy, nerdy sounding guy on television. In writing, he's fine, he's funny, on tv, he kinda sucks, but then I've really only seen him co-hosting PTI. Not looking forward to his Laker hating and Celtic love, but whatever, he probably won't get many words in anyway. But hey, LeBRAWN JAYEMS biggest supporter and the bitter man with no sense of humor being gone is good news to me.
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Re: ESPN replacing Broussard Barry w/ SVG & Simmons in studio

Postby Helljumper on Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:00 pm

But how will ESPN ever get legitimate basketball info without Broussard's multiple sources?!
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Re: ESPN replacing Broussard Barry w/ SVG & Simmons in studio

Postby Doc Brown on Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:19 pm

^^^^

I don't get Barry's hate for the Lakers. I want to know who pooped in his cereal because it seemed like every game he was harping on meaningless crap over and over again.
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Re: ESPN replacing Broussard Barry w/ SVG & Simmons in studio

Postby Tobias Funke on Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:28 pm

It certainly looks like they'll be better, at the very least I cant imagine that they can do worse than Barry and Multiple Sources.
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Re: ESPN replacing Broussard Barry w/ SVG & Simmons in studio

Postby Weezy on Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:31 pm

lakerswiz wrote:
Weezy wrote:Bill Simmons is a bumbling, shy, nerdy sounding guy on television. In writing, he's fine, he's funny, on tv, he kinda sucks, but then I've really only seen him co-hosting PTI. Not looking forward to his Laker hating and Celtic love, but whatever, he probably won't get many words in anyway. But hey, LeBRAWN JAYEMS biggest supporter and the bitter man with no sense of humor being gone is good news to me.

Bill Simmons Laker hate won't be near Jon Barry's.


True, at least Simmons hate is mostly out of respect for how good we are and being a Celtics fan, Barry has no real excuse except seeming jealousy and hate for Kobe.
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Re: ESPN replacing Broussard Barry w/ SVG & Simmons in studio

Postby gcclaker on Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:36 pm

Doc Brown wrote:^^^^

I don't get Barry's hate for the Lakers. I want to know who pooped in his cereal because it seemed like every game he was harping on meaningless crap over and over again.

It goes back to when he was on Sacramento and lost to the Lakers in the 2000 playoffs. He was gloating going into L.A. for Game 5 tied whereupon they were crushed. I also never forgot him enjoying the trashing the squad received in Game 6 of the 2008 Finals too.
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Re: ESPN replacing Broussard Barry w/ SVG & Simmons in studio

Postby Phil XI on Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:36 pm

A Dwight hater and a Celtic homer. Lovely.
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Re: ESPN replacing Broussard Barry w/ SVG & Simmons in studio

Postby Weezy on Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:31 pm

Actually I believe SVG said recently that he's good with Dwight, and that Orlando management was to blame for that whole mess. I actually like Stan Van, he's outspoken and can be pretty funny.
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Re: ESPN replacing Broussard Barry w/ SVG & Simmons in studio

Postby purp n gold on Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:33 pm

They both have great basketball knowledge, but if ESPN production reduces them to Dwight hater and Celtic homer (and they probably will) the show still isn't that good. But losing Broussard is an upgrade... :man10:
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Re: ESPN replacing Broussard Barry w/ SVG & Simmons in studio

Postby S.R.05 on Tue Sep 11, 2012 3:03 pm

much rather listen to svg than broussard or barry. simmons i dont expect much but hes still a slight upgrade over either. well done espn
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Re: ESPN replacing Broussard Barry w/ SVG & Simmons in studio

Postby Juronimo on Tue Sep 11, 2012 3:27 pm

Phil XI wrote:A Dwight hater and a ****** homer. Lovely.


I know right, but I can't really blame Stan after what he went through.
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Postby Texas Lakers Fan on Tue Sep 11, 2012 5:09 pm

Awesome. :jam2:
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Re: ESPN replacing Broussard Barry w/ SVG & Simmons in studio

Postby 432J on Tue Sep 11, 2012 5:12 pm

can't wait to hear big stan

simmons on the other hand im not too familiar with, aside from his hate for the lakers but that'll be funny to watch
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Re: ESPN replacing Broussard Barry w/ SVG & Simmons in studio

Postby Battle Tested20 on Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:49 pm

I approve of this change, not very often ESPN gets it right but they did. I agree with what's been said already that Bill Simmons is a great and funny writer, and I don't have much experience of watching him on TV other than a few minutes of watching him on PTI. Overall, I'm fine with Simmons and even though he is a Celtics fan, he does know how to poke fun at every team.
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Re: ESPN replacing Broussard Barry w/ SVG & Simmons in studio

Postby BigDan24 on Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:34 am

I like it, although i was kind of hopping for a broadcast trio of Breen, JVG and SVG. That would have been funny.
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Re: ESPN replacing Broussard Barry w/ SVG & Simmons in studio

Postby The Rock on Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:05 pm

Doc Brown wrote:^^^^

I don't get Barry's hate for the Lakers. I want to know who pooped in his cereal because it seemed like every game he was harping on meaningless crap over and over again.


I think he was on the Lakers when Kobe was like in his 1st 2 years, im sure there were some battles in practice and Barry took it personal
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Re: ESPN replacing Broussard Barry w/ SVG & Simmons in studio

Postby The Rock on Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:08 pm

Simmons is a fruity sounding dude. I absolutely couldn't listen to him when he comes on TV/radio

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Re: ESPN replacing Broussard Barry w/ SVG & Simmons in studio

Postby LakRfAn on Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:13 pm

they should have replaced barry with barry

brent is infinitely better than jon
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Re: ESPN replacing Broussard Barry w/ SVG & Simmons in studio

Postby JSM on Thu Oct 11, 2012 9:13 am

Guess there will be no SVG after all.

Dan Devine of Yahoo wrote:While we'd all love to see Stan Van Gundy stalking the sidelines for an NBA team this season rather than sitting at home after getting fired by the Orlando Magic back in May, most NBA fans have been very excited by the prospect of the famously irascible coach joining ESPN's "NBA Countdown" broadcast. The rumor, first reported last month by Sports by Brooks, that Van Gundy would add his strategic smarts and acerbic wit to a studio show that often seems like it could use more of both seemed inspired, and maybe too good to be true.

So it was kind of a bummer (if not a shock) to read Wednesday that an ESPN spokesman had told Jason McIntyre of The Big Lead that SVG and the Worldwide Leader "differed on potential assignments and we moved in another direction." While failing to come to terms with ESPN doesn't preclude Van Gundy from finding other TV work, the EJ-Kenny-Charles-Shaq squad at TNT doesn't seem to have much room for new blood and saddling up with Rick Kamla nightly on NBA TV doesn't seem like something the ex-coach would be too interested in (though I know Eric Freeman would love it). Less than three weeks left before Opening Night, this could mean no big-time national gig for Stan heading into the regular season, which would be disappointing for anyone interested in seeing and hearing more SVG (READ: any right-thinking individual).

McIntyre notes that ESPN is a broadcast partner of the NBA, with the network paying nearly $1 billion for the right to show NBA content, and wonders whether Van Gundy's longstanding frostiness (and, in more recent settings like this ESPN.com podcast, outright animus) toward NBA Commissioner David Stern had something to do with the scuttling of the deal. (Van Gundy's also had less-than-kind words for an ESPN personality in the recent past, too.)

It all seemed like the kind of inside baseball that media types find interesting, but doesn't really go anywhere after the fact. Except that, after the fact, Van Gundy did go somewhere — to "The Dan LeBatard Show" on Miami sports radio station 790 The Ticket, where (at about the 28-minute mark) he discussed the TBL report with his trademark tact, reserve and hahahahaha, no, just kidding, he broke out the napalm.

Van Gundy called the ESPN spokesperson's account "just a flat-out lie," said he hadn't gotten a straight answer on what happened "nobody there has the guts to say anything," and much more. From McIntyre's transcript of that portion of the interview:

"No one at ESPN will tell us what happened. Certainly the NBA office isn't going to tell us what happened. One of the quotes from ESPN in there — 'we had discussions, but couldn't agree on a role' ... as is usual, that's a bunch of BS from ESPN.

"We actually did agree on a role, but then they came back and pulled that. That's when we knew something was up. [...]

"What I find fascinating ... you have to give David Stern and the NBA a lot of credit ... ESPN pays the league, and then the league tells them what to do. It's more ESPN's problem. You gotta have no balls whatsoever to pay someone hundreds of millions of dollars and let them run your business."

Obviously, this is just one side of the story coming from the very specific perspective of a party who believes himself to have been wronged by one or two giant corporations. We've reached out to ESPN and the NBA for comment on Van Gundy's assertions, and will update this post if we receive any replies.

That said: Well, if there ever was a flicker of a chance that Stan Van Gundy was going to work for ESPN this season (and probably in any season for the rest of recorded time), that light has now likely been extinguished. Which stinks, because I was looking forward to seeing him play with the Magic 8-Ball like you wouldn't believe.

It's been pretty well established at this point that Van Gundy gives very few damns what most people in the world think about him, which is part of what makes him so entertaining; these comments to LeBatard certainly do nothing to damage that reputation. But as was the case with his public airing of the in-house dirty laundry surrounding Dwight Howard's alleged push to have him fired, there's something about this that seems like a counterintuitive professional move.

Sure, fans loved it when Van Gundy publicly humiliated his franchise star, revealed front-office confidences and shined a spotlight on locker room tension, but if you were a GM or president of basketball operations, wouldn't that kind of behavior make you think twice before handing him several million dollars a year to take the reins of your organization's primary product? Similarly, while an awful lot of people enjoy seeing ESPN poked and prodded this way, if you're someone who makes decisions on which commentators get paid well to regularly appear on national television to discuss basketball, wouldn't you have to really think about entering into talks with someone who has shown that, if things go south, he'll throw details of your negotiations out in public and drag your brand through the mud?

As a person, I'm all for honesty and fair dealing, and as a fan, I think it's awesome that Van Gundy marches to his own beat and (it seems) simply tells the truth as he sees it. But I'd be lying if I said I'm not starting to think of stuff like this as sort of unprofessional, and if I'm thinking that, then I'm betting there's at least a chance that a lot of the people who could actually pay Stan to do lucrative NBA-related work are thinking it, too.

If what Van Gundy's saying is true, I wouldn't blame him for being mad at ESPN for pulling out on the deal; if he's right that Stern or the NBA office in any way had its thumb on the scale, I wouldn't blame him for being furious (and I'd also be pretty pissed at the league for kiboshing something that tons of fans would love over some contentious comments). But lashing out like a scorned lover about it seems like a bad way of handling one's business, and as someone who'd really, really like Stan Van Gundy to be around the league as long as humanly possible, that worries me a bit.
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Re: ESPN replacing Broussard Barry w/ SVG & Simmons in studio

Postby davriver290 on Thu Oct 11, 2012 9:42 am

Now all they have to do is get rid of Magic Johnson. Guy is a legend in basketball, but can't talk a lick of it on television.
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