Fisher 5 Years 25 Million to Coach NY

Fisher 5 Years 25 Million to Coach NY

Postby LTLakerFan on Mon Jun 09, 2014 11:21 pm

Surprised this isn't up already. :what:

NEW YORK --- The New York Knicks have an agreement in place with Derek Fisher to become the team's next coach, according to multiple outlets, including ESPNNewYork.com.

The two sides are in the process of finalizing a five-year, $25 million deal, according to Yahoo! Sports.

The Knicks have scheduled a news conference at 11:30 a.m. ET Tuesday to "make a major announcement." After the news conference, Jackson will fly overseas Tuesday night for his son's wedding, while Fisher is expected to attend Game 4 of the Stanley Cup finals at Madison Square Garden Wednesday night.

Asked in a group of three reporters about hiring Fisher in the bowels of Madison Square Garden following the Rangers' Stanley Cup finals game Monday night, Jackson said "Go Fish."

Fisher, who earned $4.73 million combined over the last three seasons and made $5 million just four times in his 18 seasons as a player, spent the past week deciding on his future after the Oklahoma City Thunder were knocked out of the playoffs. The Los Angeles Lakers at one point had interest in hiring Fisher for their coaching vacancy. Fisher also was mulling a return to the court or a transition to the front office, but ultimately decided to join Knicks president Phil Jackson in New York.

Fisher's relationship with Jackson is believed to be one of the factors that led him to choosing the Knicks. Fisher won five titles while playing for Jackson in Los Angeles. A source close to Jackson said he was "ecstatic" about landing Fisher.

The two have remained close since Fisher's playing days. Fisher and Jackson spoke briefly over the phone last week.

Fisher, 39, earlier this month spoke about his desire to coach in the NBA.

"In the last maybe decade or so, I've really felt like my purpose in life, my calling so to speak, was to be in a leadership position or some position of impact on other people," Fisher said after the Thunder were eliminated from the playoffs. "Coaching allows for you to positively impact other people's lives."

Learning on the Job
Derek Fisher is the latest in a line of NBA coaches hired with no prior coaching experience. The results? A mixed bag. Here is a look at how some notable first-time coaches fared in their first season on the bench:

Coach Team W-L
Steve Kerr Warriors ?
Jason Kidd Nets 44-38
Mark Jackson Warriors 23-43
Doc Rivers* Magic 41-41
Larry Bird Pacers 58-24
* Won Coach of the Year

Jackson noted recently that Fisher's on-court leadership could translate well to the bench. He called Fisher "a person that's on my list of guys that could be very good candidates for this job" and was fined $25,000 for those comments.

Jackson initially sought Steve Kerr for the Knicks vacancy. Kerr accepted an offer to coach the Golden State Warriors instead of the Knicks. Jackson essentially put his coaching search on hold to wait to speak to Fisher first after missing out on initial top Kerr.

Since Jackson agreed to take over as Knicks president in March, sources say he has always intended to hire a young coach he could mentor. He also wanted to hire a coach with whom he had a relationship. Fisher fits both criteria.

Sources maintain that freedom is important to Jackson, who wants to establish and maintain an on-the-floor role in his first-ever stint as the lead decision-maker in the front office for a franchise.

The 18-year veteran played parts of nine seasons under Jackson in Los Angeles. Kerr was unquestionably Jackson's top choice -- Jackson revealed late last month that he had a verbal commitment from Kerr before Golden State began negotiating with him.

But the idea was always to hire someone he's worked with in the past who would also welcome Jackson's on-the-floor presence at training camp and practices, thus allowing the 68-year-old to have more of an impact than he might have if restricted to a front-office role.

So Jackson turned to Fisher, who played in an NBA record 259 playoff games and won an NBA record 161. Fisher isn't the first point guard to go straight from the playing floor to the bench.

Derek Fisher has agreed to join Phil Jackson and the Knicks as the team's next coach, according to reports.
Jason Kidd made the same transition last season with the Brooklyn Nets. The Nets lost in the second round of the playoffs to the Miami Heat.

Fisher takes over a Knicks team that finished with just 37 wins last season and missed the playoffs for the first time in four seasons. Jackson fired Mike Woodson and his coaching staff shortly after the conclusion of the regular season. Fisher and Jackson will work together to fill out the coaching staff.

Bill Cartwright has already interviewed for a position on staff. Other candidates include Kurt Rambis, Luke Walton, Ron Harper and Jim Cleamons. Fisher is the 26th coach in franchise history and the eighth since Jeff Van Gundy left the post in 2001.

Information from ESPN.com's Marc Stein, Darren Rovell and Ramona Shelburne, ESPNNewYork.com's Ohm Youngmisuk and Mike Mazzeo and ESPN Stats & Info was used in this report.

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Re: Fisher 5 Years 25 Million to Coach NY

Postby V.V.V.V.V. on Tue Jun 10, 2014 12:57 am

It going to be tough. And Fish has no experience. :man11:
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Re: Fisher 5 Years 25 Million to Coach NY

Postby kenzo on Tue Jun 10, 2014 1:44 am

Triangle is not winnng ish in the near future.
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Re: Fisher 5 Years 25 Million to Coach NY

Postby MadMax on Tue Jun 10, 2014 6:43 am

Is this the new trend? Just give a recently retired player the reigns to coach a team?

It must suck to be an assistant coach in the NBA right now.
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Re: Fisher 5 Years 25 Million to Coach NY

Postby therealdeal on Tue Jun 10, 2014 9:14 am

I love Fisher, but I don't think this works out. At least not in 5 years and it could sour him to coaching in general. His roster isn't good, they aren't really built for the Triangle, he's in a horrible city to coach in, and his owner is still Dolan (even though they're apparently friends or something).

This could either be okay or really ugly. I don't see greatness in this situation.
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Re: Fisher 5 Years 25 Million to Coach NY

Postby wcsoldier81 on Tue Jun 10, 2014 9:22 am

Are NBA franchises getting tired of overpaying so they are overpaying coaches now ?

Fish joined Kerr as the 4th highest paid ... both never coach
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Re: Fisher 5 Years 25 Million to Coach NY

Postby Jazzygirl205 on Tue Jun 10, 2014 1:28 pm

I wish him the best, he's classy, respectful and a hard worker. Good for him teaming up with Phil again.
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Re: Fisher 5 Years 25 Million to Coach NY

Postby pound4pound1 on Tue Jun 10, 2014 2:47 pm

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Re: Fisher 5 Years 25 Million to Coach NY

Postby LTLakerFan on Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:59 pm

pound4pound1 wrote:Image


:man10:

Yeah I see this as being a real baptism under fire for Fish. Am really curious to see if he moves his family back. That could be brutal if they don't win much. Like I've said Fisher has ZERO cachet or good will with the NY fans and media. I'm very disappointed that the Lakers had no interest. I think at this point I will be bummed, even with Hollins, if they don't pick Scott. A lot to be said for keeping it in the family and it being Scott's dream job and the Kobe connection!!
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Re: Fisher 5 Years 25 Million to Coach NY

Postby Battle Tested20 on Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:45 pm

pound4pound1 wrote:Image

good one :man10:
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Re: Fisher 5 Years 25 Million to Coach NY

Postby therealdeal on Tue Jun 10, 2014 6:43 pm

LTLakerFan wrote: :man10:

Yeah I see this as being a real baptism under fire for Fish. Am really curious to see if he moves his family back. That could be brutal if they don't win much. Like I've said Fisher has ZERO cachet or good will with the NY fans and media. I'm very disappointed that the Lakers had no interest. I think at this point I will be bummed, even with Hollins, if they don't pick Scott. A lot to be said for keeping it in the family and it being Scott's dream job and the Kobe connection!!

I'm guessing it was more like this:
Fisher: "Hey Mitch!"
Mitch: "Hey Derek! We're interested in having you come aboar-"
Fisher: "Hold on one sec Mitch. Phil and Dolan are offering me 5/25 million dollars."
Mitch: "Who's offering what? Are you serious?"
Fisher: "Yeah. You wanna top that?"
Mitch: "F*** no. No offense. Congrats on the contract man."
Fisher: "See you in a few years man!"
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Re: Fisher 5 Years 25 Million to Coach NY

Postby Congo Cash on Tue Jun 10, 2014 9:06 pm

pound4pound1 wrote:Image

:man10: :man10: :man10:

Hey, he could be a playing coach, Do it Fish! :bow: :bow:
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Re: Fisher 5 Years 25 Million to Coach NY

Postby karacha on Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:21 am

Good for Fish, I wish him all the best. But that's a lot of money, it's a long contract, the team is not that good, and it's NY. This could be brutal, but then... it's $25M. :man12:
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Re: Fisher 5 Years 25 Million to Coach NY

Postby LTLakerFan on Wed Jun 11, 2014 11:53 am

Congo Cash wrote:
pound4pound1 wrote:Image

:man10: :man10: :man10:

Hey, he could be a playing coach, Do it Fish! :bow: :bow:


Do you know if that is allowed now? I thought I read somewhere a couple months ago that the NBA didn't allow player/coaches any more. But I wouldn't bet anything on whether that was actually the case or whose opinion or report it was. Could have just been some "slug" from CL ……. oh wait…..I resemble that :man10:
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Re: Fisher 5 Years 25 Million to Coach NY

Postby Doc Brown on Wed Jun 11, 2014 3:23 pm

rom Marc Berman of the New York Post:

Fisher’s speech-making skills are good for dreary lockout meetings and introductory press conferences. But this is what one Thunder insider told me during the conference finals:

“The thing that worries me about Derek as a coach is it’s one thing to give speeches as a player because it’s unique,” the source said. “But the players don’t want to hear long speeches from the coach every day during the season. Players may roll their eyes. Hopefully, Phil will guide him there.’’

One person close to Fisher says admiringly, “He has the ability to talk a lot but not really reveal anything.’’


Good luck Fish. You still have a 0-0 coaching record and are already getting some heat.
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Re: Fisher 5 Years 25 Million to Coach NY

Postby MadMax on Wed Jun 11, 2014 3:29 pm

We all agree this isn't going to end well for Derek Fisher?
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Re: Fisher 5 Years 25 Million to Coach NY

Postby JSM on Wed Jun 11, 2014 5:13 pm

^ Depends how hands on Phil is until Fish is ready for the training wheels to come off. No other rookie coach has had that luxury. And the number of assistants close to both of them and familiar with the triangle will ease the transition. Rambis, Fox, Cartwright, Luke...and combo of them would be a big help.
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Re: Fisher 5 Years 25 Million to Coach NY

Postby dj vitus on Wed Jun 11, 2014 9:32 pm

As long as Phil is President and calling all the shots, I don't see players rolling their eyes at Fish unless they want the boot.

Might take a couple years to shake up the roster and change team attitude, but I can see this going well if they get guys who will listen to Fisher and buy into his X's and O's.
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Re: Fisher 5 Years 25 Million to Coach NY

Postby V.V.V.V.V. on Thu Jun 12, 2014 12:05 am

Luke is already planning the coup. :man12:
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Re: Fisher 5 Years 25 Million to Coach NY

Postby LTLakerFan on Fri Jun 13, 2014 7:19 am

Luuuke has that deep booming voice…... :man1:
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Re: Fisher 5 Years 25 Million to Coach NY

Postby Rooscooter on Fri Jun 13, 2014 1:45 pm

JSM wrote:^ Depends how hands on Phil is until Fish is ready for the training wheels to come off. No other rookie coach has had that luxury. And the number of assistants close to both of them and familiar with the triangle will ease the transition. Rambis, Fox, Cartwright, Luke...and combo of them would be a big help.


They are both "rookies" in their respective positions. I've never seen Phil as the personality type to be calling the shots.... he much prefers to be the antagonist. Now he's exposed completely as the decision maker. I see Phil leaving before Fisher in all likelihood.
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