Gilbert Arenas Thread (p.29 Arenas at All-Star Break?)

Re: Lakers interested in Gilbert Arenas? (Pg 3)

Postby The Laker Link on Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:24 am

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KareemTheGreat33 wrote:30 years old and he's washed up? Nobody touched him in the off season because of the knee injury. He should have gone to Germany for the Kobe treatment.


Maybe he did. :man12:


Maybe we will if he realizes he can pan out in LA
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Re: Lakers interested in Gilbert Arenas? (Pg 3)

Postby JGC on Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:26 am

PiNOYLaKERSFaN wrote:They're not signing Gilbert to start, they're signing him to be on the bench meaning he'll play when Kobe's out. Have you seen this team play when Kobe's on the bench? The Lakers have NO ONE besides Kobe that can create his own shot (which opens up the floor)

Do you really want Kobe to play almost 40 minutes per game on a condensed schedule like this season? We all know what this team needs but until we pull of a trade that would net us an all-star PG, this is the next best solution that identifies one of the Lakers' glaring needs.


Really? Well, in that case Arenas should DEFINITELY be out as an option because if the purpose of this signing is as you said, to play when Kobe is out, then what we need is a shooting guard, not a PG.

So you think it would be a good idea to take Kobe out and play Arenas at the 2?? IMO, bad idea.
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Re: Lakers interested in Gilbert Arenas? (Pg 3)

Postby KareemTheGreat33 on Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:28 am

Ok no confirmation from anyone yet? not really trusting HW much, no offense.
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Re: Lakers interested in Gilbert Arenas? (Pg 3)

Postby The Rock on Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:31 am

We are dead last in 3 point shooting you dont think we could use a gunner? Im not saying he's going to be the Gilbert Arenas of old but after seeing how it went in ORL I think he learned his limitations and the game humbled him. A motivated veteran looking to prove himself and has game is a strong addition to our team. You can't give him 1 inch of airspace when he shoots that threat of a shooter alone opens things up for Pau, Kobe and Bynum in the post. Making this move also allows Kobe to go to the SF position and putting 2 decent shooters in Arenas and Fisher to close out the games in the backcourt

There will be some issues defensively, he's never been a good defender to begin and his knees doesn't allow him to play D that well but we'll see how Mike Brown incorporates him.
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Re: Lakers interested in Gilbert Arenas? (Pg 3)

Postby JGC on Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:36 am

The Rock wrote:We are dead last in 3 point shooting you dont think we could use a gunner? Im not saying he's going to be the Gilbert Arenas of old but after seeing how it went in ORL I think he learned his limitations and the game humbled him. A motivated veteran looking to prove himself and has game is a strong addition to our team. You can't give him 1 inch of airspace when he shoots that threat of a shooter alone opens things up for Pau, Kobe and Bynum in the post. Making this move also allows Kobe to go to the SF position and putting 2 decent shooters in Arenas and Fisher to close out the games in the backcourt

There will be some issues defensively, he's never been a good defender to begin and his knees doesn't allow him to play D that well but we'll see how Mike Brown incorporates him.


I'm not worried about defensive liabilities. There are no lockdown PGs anyway. PG defense comes from team defense.

You make it seem like Arenas is a good shooter. He's not a shooter. He's a scorer. He's never even shot 45% from the field ever in any season.

Look, I'm not opposed to signing him up for $1M and cut him if he's a problem. But he doesn't address our primary need which is playmaking. I'm not sure why people think Arenas can get the bench going when Kobe can't get the bench going.
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Re: Lakers interested in Gilbert Arenas? (Pg 3)

Postby The Rock on Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:39 am

^ Nobody is going to ask him to get the bench going. We're going to look for him to create his own offense like Goudelock did if thats not available then dump into Pau or Bynum or whoever's on the inside. His role coming off the bench will be a shooter. Someone said he lost 20 pounds and he's been working with Tim Grover, lets give him a chance before we start bashing him. He's exactly what this team needs, someone who can make an open jumpshot
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Re: Lakers interested in Gilbert Arenas? (Pg 3)

Postby brickshooter on Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:52 am

If Arenas wants to come here and play for a ring in exchange for a reasonable low salary, then I like it. The pecking order have been already establish for about 5 years. He'll fall in line.
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Re: Lakers interested in Gilbert Arenas? (Pg 3)

Postby The Rock on Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:54 am

When Blake returns, Morris is gonna ride the pine on the inactive list...Kobe/Fish/Blake/Arenas/Goudelock. Kid blew his chance
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Re: Lakers interested in Gilbert Arenas? (Pg 3)

Postby JGC on Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:54 am

The Rock wrote:^ Nobody is going to ask him to get the bench going. We're going to look for him to create his own offense like Goudelock did if thats not available then dump into Pau or Bynum or whoever's on the inside. His role coming off the bench will be a shooter. Someone said he lost 20 pounds and he's been working with Tim Grover, lets give him a chance before we start bashing him. He's exactly what this team needs, someone who can make an open jumpshot


He's not exactly what this team needs. If that were the case then we'd take Arenas over CP3 even if CP3 were available. But the reason we'd take CP3 is because CP3 is the prime example of what this team ACTUALLY needs. A playmaker.

Arenas fills a need though, but so do many, many players. I mean we can pick almost anyone and say hey, we could use that!

But maybe that's where we aren't agreeing. I think what this team needs DESPERATELY, is a playmaker. And you feel what we need most is a guy who can create his own offense?

Or, are you saying it's not what we need most, but it's just something we can use?
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Re: Lakers interested in Gilbert Arenas? (Pg 3)

Postby last stand on Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:00 am

Lol what are you talking about. We did take cp3 over Gilbert first of all. Second of all your argument is making no sense. We are taking Gilbert arenas because he's the best available option

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Re: Lakers interested in Gilbert Arenas? (Pg 3)

Postby Rooscooter on Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:01 am

davriver290 wrote:I'm thinking Kapono, Moriss are in danger of being waived. Can luke be waived? Lol. Guy needs to take a hike


Oh god no!! If we waive Luke now the front office has completely lost it..... The ONLY value we will ever get out of him will be next year as an expiring contract...... In fact if we do that crazy trade with Orlando for Howard and give up Bynum and Pau he could be our most valuable asset to find a guard that even belongs at this level.......

Morris would be my target to let go...... He doesn't belong at this level.

Can't we send one of the Rookies to the D league and reduce the roster...... I can't remember...
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Re: Lakers interested in Gilbert Arenas? (Pg 3)

Postby Rooscooter on Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:03 am

brickshooter wrote:If Arenas wants to come here and play for a ring in exchange for a reasonable low salary, then I like it. The pecking order have been already establish for about 5 years. He'll fall in line.


If Arenas is coming it's for the ONLY salary we can offer........ which is a pro-rated portion of the Veteran Minimum. Probably about $750,000.00.........
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Re: Lakers interested in Gilbert Arenas? (Pg 3)

Postby Sakiano on Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:17 am

instead of Arenas , trade for Calderon...get it done mitch..hes available and the Raptors are trying to clear space..so it wont be too expensive
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Re: Lakers interested in Gilbert Arenas? (Pg 3)

Postby lakersin4 on Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:18 am

They're not signing Gilbert to start, they're signing him to be on the bench meaning he'll play when Kobe's out. Have you seen this team play when Kobe's on the bench? The Lakers have NO ONE besides Kobe that can create his own shot (which opens up the floor)

Do you really want Kobe to play almost 40 minutes per game on a condensed schedule like this season? We all know what this team needs but until we pull of a trade that would net us an all-star PG, this is the next best solution that identifies one of the Lakers' glaring needs.

I agree with this.. Gilbert might end up starting but initially I think they want him for scoring off the bench.. We lost a ton of scoring off the bench with Lo & Shannon
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Re: Lakers interested in Gilbert Arenas? (Pg 3)

Postby The Rock on Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:23 am

I wonder if they'll cut Morris? We have only 4 bigs on the roster outside Carracter and I just looked at our team contract thing and saw Goudelock has 2 years on his contract while Morris has only 1 despite being the higher pick...
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Re: Lakers interested in Gilbert Arenas? (Pg 3)

Postby Steez on Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:32 am

Let me just put my 2 cents in here quickly....

Arenas can be that scorer we need off the bench. As a starter, he'd be our best PG, but he will be the go to scorer off the bench. Right now, thats Ron Artest and we know how thats working out. Arenas last season averaged 17 ppg and almost 3 steals per game when he started for Jameer for 15 games or so. If we can get 17 ppg from our pg? We'll be much better.

With all that said and Jose Calderon becoming on the market - id take Calderon in a heartbeat because he gives us what we need more, and thats a PG that can pass in the post, pass off the dribble, defend and shoot the 3. Also his Assist to TO ratio is insane - something we badly need with all these TOs. Jose is the real deal... I am from Canada and watch alot of his games.
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Re: Lakers interested in Gilbert Arenas? (Pg 3)

Postby SK8 on Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:33 am

I think Morris is out of roster, if we get Arenas. Like somebody said. Kid had his chance and blew it, and lets be honest, dude is garbage, and who watched games since Blake's injury, knows what am i talking about. Come on Mitch!
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Re: Lakers interested in Gilbert Arenas? (Pg 3)

Postby borri on Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:47 am

Some people are against this? It's not like we are paying him alot of $$$ if he signs. Second, have you seen our PG options? Have you seen our scoring options for the 2nd unit?

No freaking brainer here. Even if Gilbert is 50% of what he was he's still a better PG and second unit option than what we have on our team right now.

Immediate help. Stop talking about trades....maybe it's been tried and no takers. It's not like we have alot of tradeable assets. The ones we have, we are probably holding out for bigger fish.
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Re: Lakers interested in Gilbert Arenas? (Pg 3)

Postby KobeSystemtwofour on Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:48 am

What do we have to lose? 1 year deal he doesn't fit cut him loose if he does re sign him for a few more seasons
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Re: Lakers interested in Gilbert Arenas? (Pg 3)

Postby ThizGuy83 on Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:49 am

so we gotta wait till monday to see if this will even happen?
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Re: Lakers interested in Gilbert Arenas? (Pg 3)

Postby Kobe8Fan on Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:16 pm

Gil grew up idolizing Kobe. I'm sure he'll be very happy to play alongside his idol.
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Re: Lakers interested in Gilbert Arenas? (Pg 3)

Postby therealdeal on Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:29 pm

I'm not sold on this. I don't know why, but I just don't think he would make our team all that much better. I mean he's probably not coming here to start, but to be a scoring option off the bench, right? Well look at his numbers in a limited role with Orlando:

8.0 ppg/ 3.2 apg/ 2.4 rpg/ 0.9 stl with 2.2 TOs
he shot a horrid 34.4% from the field and 27.5% from deep in 21:48 minutes of play.

Those numbers are pretty close to what Blake was putting up in similar minutes. Why sign another Blake when we can just tough it out for another couple of weeks until we get him back?

I kind of hope this is a precursor to a trade because if not I think we're wasting our time a little bit.
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Re: Lakers interested in Gilbert Arenas? (Pg 3)

Postby Center Court on Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:36 pm

I don't get people on this board...

Our bench is absolute trash. Our PG rotation is the worst in the NBA. Our 3 point shooting is last. Outside of Kobe/Pau/Bynum we have no offensive threats.

When Gilbert was Gilert he was a top 5 player, unstoppable scorer, and a huge difference make. After all the crap he's been through the past few years, it'd be short-sighted to assume he'll get back to that but it'd also be ignorant to assume he can't help us at all.

I for one am a HUGE fian of signing Gilbert. Virtually zero risk (except cutting someone), but a big time reward if things pan out.

Watching him in Orlando he was laying okay IMO. Stan just didn't use him right. But even in that case, when he was a starter he was averaging 17 and 5. He's got something left in the tank, even if it's a bench player who can come in and score 10 points a game, that's big for this team.
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Re: Lakers interested in Gilbert Arenas? (Pg 3)

Postby last stand on Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:36 pm

Last year he was just off of his most recent knee surgery. He's about 1 1/2-2 years off of his last surgery

At the very least he'll be healthier here. Also he's 20lbs lighter right now
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Re: Lakers interested in Gilbert Arenas? (Pg 3)

Postby Center Court on Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:36 pm

I don't get people on this board...

Our bench is absolute trash. Our PG rotation is the worst in the NBA. Our 3 point shooting is last. Outside of Kobe/Pau/Bynum we have no offensive threats.

When Gilbert was Gilert he was a top 5 player, unstoppable scorer, and a huge difference make. After all the crap he's been through the past few years, it'd be short-sighted to assume he'll get back to that but it'd also be ignorant to assume he can't help us at all.

I for one am a HUGE fian of signing Gilbert. Virtually zero risk (except cutting someone), but a big time reward if things pan out.

Watching him in Orlando he was laying okay IMO. Stan just didn't use him right. But even in that case, when he was a starter he was averaging 17 and 5. He's got something left in the tank, even if it's a bench player who can come in and score 10 points a game, that's big for this team.
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