Ibaka's shot to Griffin's jewels (No suspension PG .3)

Ibaka's shot to Griffin's jewels (No suspension PG .3)

Postby The Rock on Sun Mar 03, 2013 5:00 pm

How did this play get reviewed by the refs and Ibaka didnt get ejected? Hope he gets suspended for Tuesdays game vs Lakers
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Re: Ibaka's shot to Griffin's jewels

Postby Rooscooter on Sun Mar 03, 2013 5:15 pm

Foul?... yes without a doubt.... Intentional punch to the nada? No way. He was chopping at Blake's arm.... the one that had been elbowing him in the stomach all game.... and about 2 seconds before this video started I believe.

His eyes are following the ball anyway. To hit a target as small as that (presumably) it would take you watching where you are swinging your arm.

A one shot foul with the bucket is what it should have been..... not a nearly game changing Flagrant foul....
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Re: Ibaka's shot to Griffin's jewels

Postby The Rock on Sun Mar 03, 2013 5:20 pm

So what if there was stuff happening 2seconds before this video? Its not like Griffin did anything dirty then Im fine with the retaliation, there was normal pushing and shoving the usual nothing dirty to this extent, and you need to get your eyes checked he looked down to see where Blake is and swung his hand into the privates area, theres no need for that, the reaction after tells me it was clearly intentional its not like hes looking around wondering what he did wrong
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Re: Ibaka's shot to Griffin's jewels

Postby ramsay13 on Sun Mar 03, 2013 5:32 pm

Obviously Roo hates Griffin. It was intentional and his attitude after the whistle said it all.
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Re: Ibaka's shot to Griffin's jewels

Postby GoldHammish on Sun Mar 03, 2013 6:02 pm

Rooscooter wrote: To hit a target as small as that

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Re: Ibaka's shot to Griffin's jewels

Postby jimbo327 on Sun Mar 03, 2013 6:04 pm

Punching someone else balls deserve to be a suspension. Ibaka knew what he was doing. You don't need to look, you know where a man's balls are and swing in that area. Dirty.
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Re: Ibaka's shot to Griffin's jewels

Postby abeer3 on Sun Mar 03, 2013 6:07 pm

i intensely dislike both of these players. i'm not sure that was an intentional nut punch. the way he grabbed his arm looked pretty dangerous, though.
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Re: Ibaka's shot to Griffin's jewels

Postby Finwë on Sun Mar 03, 2013 6:33 pm

Rooscooter wrote:Foul?... yes without a doubt.... Intentional punch to the nada? No way. He was chopping at Blake's arm.... the one that had been elbowing him in the stomach all game.... and about 2 seconds before this video started I believe.

His eyes are following the ball anyway. To hit a target as small as that (presumably) it would take you watching where you are swinging your arm.

A one shot foul with the bucket is what it should have been..... not a nearly game changing Flagrant foul....

Are you serious? I watched the game, rewatched the play a couple of times and everytime I see it it becomes obvious to me that he's intentionally trying to hit him in the nuts. He's looking in that direction a second and a half before he goes for it, it's an extremely unnatural move, he even gets Griffin's arm out of the way...
And no, it wouldn't take "watching where you are swinging your arm", it isn't that hard of a thing to do, you look a second and a half before doing it, he's not moving, it's quite easy...

To me there's no question it was an intentional "shot to Griffin's jewels" and I think he should've been ejected.
Isn't there also a rule about "punching fouls" or something like that, stating that it = immediate ejection?
Even if that isn't so (I read about it on twitter), it should still be a flagrant 2.

MWP would probably get a couple of games for something like that...
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Re: Ibaka's shot to Griffin's jewels

Postby ThizGuy83 on Sun Mar 03, 2013 6:37 pm

ibaka should of kicked him instead
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Re: Ibaka's shot to Griffin's jewels

Postby therealdeal on Sun Mar 03, 2013 6:53 pm

I almost never jump to the "on purpose in the balls" idea because most men just won't do that on purpose...

But that looked kind of intention to me. AT THE VERY LEAST he was intentionally hitting the guy. And for that he deserves a flagrant.
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Re: Ibaka's shot to Griffin's jewels

Postby noobiew on Sun Mar 03, 2013 7:05 pm

Ibaka will definitely be suspended one game vs the Lakers, just similar like Wade also getting a one game suspension from the league when he kicked low to Ramon Sessions earlier in the season.
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Re: Ibaka's shot to Griffin's jewels

Postby Weezy on Sun Mar 03, 2013 7:24 pm

It sure looked intentional to me. His eyes first focus on he target, then he winds up with anger on his face, looks away and goes for it, looks like a clear intentional nut shot.
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Re: Ibaka's shot to Griffin's jewels

Postby Jazzygirl205 on Sun Mar 03, 2013 7:24 pm

He didn't try to do that, it didn't look intentional.
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Re: Ibaka's shot to Griffin's jewels

Postby Finwë on Sun Mar 03, 2013 7:25 pm

Ibaka was playing for Spain when this happened:


Maybe he got the idea from Batum :man10:

(that's so low and cheap btw)
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Re: Ibaka's shot to Griffin's jewels

Postby Rooscooter on Sun Mar 03, 2013 8:19 pm

Super slow motion guys.... you don't do that purposefully in that situation. If he was trying to do this purposefully when even try for the rebound?... Why even try and block out? Why not make sure you don't miss?

Whether or not if I like Blake or not has nothing to do with it. My opinion is that it was an unfortunate shot but that he was chopping at Blake's arm that was moved just before he began his motion.

Anyway I am very biased against the Flagrant foul. The 7 point play should never happen regardless of the "intention". Kick him out and give them a couple "T's".... one play should not have that effect on a game. What's next?.... forfeit?
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Re: Ibaka's shot to Griffin's jewels

Postby FabFourLakers on Sun Mar 03, 2013 8:54 pm

Roos i seriously think u need to check ur eyes man....it's pretty clear it was intentional....and i do NOT like the floppers one bit....but I can put my hate aside and look at that play objectively. Ibaka showed no remorse after the play, and u could tell he was frustrated and he didn't care much for BG. If he did it "accidentally" he would have went up to BG and apologized....
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Re: Ibaka's shot to Griffin's jewels

Postby 432J on Sun Mar 03, 2013 10:03 pm

clearly intentional

idk how anyone can't see that
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Re: Ibaka's shot to Griffin's jewels

Postby Frank Dux on Sun Mar 03, 2013 10:08 pm

Griffin is my least favorite player in the league, but that was uncalled for. Clearly intentional, and should be a 1 game suspension.
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Re: Ibaka's shot to Griffin's jewels

Postby Coach Chris on Sun Mar 03, 2013 10:38 pm

Good timing for the Lakers
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Re: Ibaka's shot to Griffin's jewels

Postby Rooscooter on Sun Mar 03, 2013 10:48 pm

FabFourLakers wrote:Roos i seriously think u need to check ur eyes man....it's pretty clear it was intentional....and i do NOT like the floppers one bit....but I can put my hate aside and look at that play objectively. Ibaka showed no remorse after the play, and u could tell he was frustrated and he didn't care much for BG. If he did it "accidentally" he would have went up to BG and apologized....


We disagree.... Nothing more needs to be said. If you have lost it and your trying to hurt someone on purpose you don't care about getting a rebound or the shot.

I'm not sure where you are thinking I'm hating. I just see the play differently based on evidence other than just what I want to see.
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Re: Ibaka's shot to Griffin's jewels

Postby Finwë on Sun Mar 03, 2013 10:55 pm

^^ I think it was just an impulsive thing. He's trying to get in position, gets a little contact, and all of the sudden he decides to punch him in the nuts. He was irate; Griffin, like you said was elbowing him before, and maybe he just went for it impulsively.
If it was premeditated, then you're right, it wouldn't make sense to fight for rebounding position, unless he was trying to disimulate and hide it...
I think it was an impulsive, anger-driven thing, and I think it was very clear it was intentional.
I think he's gonna get suspended by the league. And I'm not seeing "just what I want to see", I don't have any bias here, I couldn't care less about either player.
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Re: Ibaka's shot to Griffin's jewels

Postby D.B. Cooper on Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:45 pm

Roo is just playing devils advocate, like that member Satan.
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Re: Ibaka's shot to Griffin's jewels

Postby XXIV on Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:49 pm

That was a dirty play and I'm actually a bit surprised he didn't get ejected considering how easily players get kicked out of games in today's game. If he does get suspended it'll be good news for us since we play them on Tuesday. We need every win we can get.
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Re: Ibaka's shot to Griffin's jewels

Postby D.B. Cooper on Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:52 pm

If it was MWP, he would of gotten kicked out. Unnatural basketball move.
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Re: Ibaka's shot to Griffin's jewels

Postby XXIV on Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:58 pm

D.B. Cooper wrote:If it was MWP, he would of gotten kicked out. Unnatural basketball move.


True but you can't really compare MWP to most other players when it comes to punishment by the league.
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