Kenyon Martin: why u no want me?

Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby VincentTH on Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:18 pm

I don't know, but I don't like having a Laker that is constantly kissed in the neck!!!
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby kray28 on Thu Aug 16, 2012 4:12 pm

That lip tattoo was disgusting to look at... :disagree:
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby easyguy on Thu Aug 16, 2012 4:19 pm

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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby XXIV on Thu Aug 16, 2012 6:19 pm

I think it looks worse now, can't even tell what's on it.
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby Kobe8Fan on Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:50 pm

What did he do to the lips tat? Turn it into a crown?
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby KareemTheGreat33 on Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:04 pm

kray28 wrote:That lip tattoo was disgusting to look at... :disagree:

I'll admit it, this is the reason I don't want him :man10: Personally I like Dwight and Drew, for being clean. But I like Shaq's Superman shield and the Undertaker's arms, so bad a**. Those are artwork. I don't like Martin, Barnes, Birdman and Cherokee Parks (the worst). It looked purposeless scribbles to me.

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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby Doc Brown on Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:10 pm

KareemTheGreat33 wrote:I'll admit it, this is the reason I don't want him :man10: Personally I like Dwight and Drew, for being clean. But I like Shaq's Superman shield and the Undertaker's arms, so bad a**. Those are artwork. I don't like Martin, Barnes, Birdman and Cherokee Parks (the worst). It looked purposeless scribbles to me.


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Reasons you don't want Martin....

1.) He has a lip tattoo and tattoo's in general

2.) Earl Clark brings the average age of team down

3.) He's a "fugazy"

4.) Crazy stalker chicks would stab D12

5.) He's a freak
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby nthydro on Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:54 pm

Can you imagine running this lineup defensively:

PG = (Meeks?)
SG = Kobe
SF = Metta
PF = Martin
C = Howard

Offensively it wouldn't be too great but defensively that's pretty damn scary.
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby bruddahmanmatt on Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:20 pm

nthydro wrote:Can you imagine running this lineup defensively:

PG = (Meeks?)
SG = Kobe
SF = Metta
PF = Martin
C = Howard

Offensively it wouldn't be too great but defensively that's pretty damn scary.


No offense but these days, the only thing scary about Kobe defensively is how horribad he is at that end of the floor.
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby JGC on Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:24 pm

bruddahmanmatt wrote:
nthydro wrote:Can you imagine running this lineup defensively:

PG = (Meeks?)
SG = Kobe
SF = Metta
PF = Martin
C = Howard

Offensively it wouldn't be too great but defensively that's pretty damn scary.


No offense but these days, the only thing scary about Kobe defensively is how horribad he is at that end of the floor.


He was great against Olympic competition.
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby KareemTheGreat33 on Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:28 pm

Doc Brown wrote:
KareemTheGreat33 wrote:I'll admit it, this is the reason I don't want him :man10: Personally I like Dwight and Drew, for being clean. But I like Shaq's Superman shield and the Undertaker's arms, so bad a**. Those are artwork. I don't like Martin, Barnes, Birdman and Cherokee Parks (the worst). It looked purposeless scribbles to me.


Updated....

Reasons you don't want Martin....

1.) He has a lip tattoo and tattoo's in general

2.) Earl Clark brings the average age of team down

3.) He's a "fugazy"

4.) Crazy stalker chicks would stab D12

5.) He's a freak


I think we can include that one on he is a freak :man9:
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby Texas Lakers Fan on Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:30 pm

bruddahmanmatt wrote:
nthydro wrote:Can you imagine running this lineup defensively:

PG = (Meeks?)
SG = Kobe
SF = Metta
PF = Martin
C = Howard

Offensively it wouldn't be too great but defensively that's pretty damn scary.


No offense but these days, the only thing scary about Kobe defensively is how horribad he is at that end of the floor.

Did you watch the Olympics at all? Kobe was a monster on that end. Now he doesn't go all out like World Peace every game because he simply can't do it anymore without getting gassed and having nothing left for the offensive end. To say he's horribad is just ridiculous. Kobe is still an above average defender.
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby bruddahmanmatt on Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:37 pm

Texas Lakers Fan wrote:
bruddahmanmatt wrote:
nthydro wrote:Can you imagine running this lineup defensively:

PG = (Meeks?)
SG = Kobe
SF = Metta
PF = Martin
C = Howard

Offensively it wouldn't be too great but defensively that's pretty damn scary.


No offense but these days, the only thing scary about Kobe defensively is how horribad he is at that end of the floor.

Did you watch the Olympics at all? Kobe was a monster on that end. Now he doesn't go all out like World Peace every game because he simply can't do it anymore without getting gassed and having nothing left for the offensive end. To say he's horribad is just ridiculous. Kobe is still an above average defender.


Bruh, he averaged 17.5 minutes per game in London where hand checking is allowed...while playing alongside guys with ridonkulous athleticism out on the perimeter...oh yeah, and to top it all off, the man had Tyson Chandler behind him protecting the rim.

Kobe is capable of having a solid defensive performance or two here and there, but these days he's almost always pretty much awful at that end of the floor. The fact that he was named to the All-D team last year while Iguodala wasn't shows how blind the folks who voted are. FWIW, it's not Bryant's fault, the man is simply 33 going on 34.
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby therealdeal on Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:42 pm

^ To be fair, he'll have Tyson's bigger, better brother behind him this season.
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby bruddahmanmatt on Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:44 pm

therealdeal wrote:^ To be fair, he'll have Tyson's bigger, better brother behind him this season.


Oh I agree, but his minutes will go up, he's got Nash out back with him instead of CP360, and hand checking while not completely banned (despite the myth that it is) is certainly, shall we say "frowned upon" if abused. I think Dwight will help to mask everyone's (Nash, Kobe and Pau) shortcomings at the defensive end, but Bryant hasn't been an All-D player since 2010. He shows flashes every now and again, but more often than not he's pretty awful at that end of the floor. Again, it's not his fault, he's simply aging while guards only continue to get stronger and faster. It's not just that Bryant is old, guys with Westbrook's speed simply haven't existed until now.
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby Center Court on Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:45 pm

the only reason not to want Martin is because there is no place for him and Jamison/Hill is already a perfect combo off the bench.

If you watched the Clippers game, you saw nothing but really good play from him given the player he is these days... he played great D, hit the mid range shot, and played 3 positions often closing closing games.

He's not some cancerous player and he's not a bad fit. He is just flat out not needed. I love having a bully that won't put up with ish. I know we already have Ron, but Martin would bring even more toughness. For as much as Howard gets hacked and as much as people try to push Pau around, he'd be a welcome addition in terms of toughness. I'm sure Kobe and Dwight would feel the same way. It's not likle he could turn this franchise into the Thuggets or Jailblazers...
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby therealdeal on Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:57 pm

bruddahmanmatt wrote:
therealdeal wrote:^ To be fair, he'll have Tyson's bigger, better brother behind him this season.


Oh I agree, but his minutes will go up, he's got Nash out back with him instead of CP360, and hand checking while not completely banned (despite the myth that it is) is certainly, shall we say "frowned upon" if abused.


Oh I'm not saying he'll be a great defender, just pointing out that he'll be (or at least look) fine.

I think he'll actually be better than we've seen the last couple years in LA. Kobe is generally receptive to the team around him. When he plays in the All-Star game, he plays differently than when he plays with LA. Part of that is because it's only one game in limited time, but some of that is because he loves playing with guys that are young and athletic. The last two years have been pretty negative and he sacrificed his defense greatly to be able to carry the load defensively. There's a few things that'll help keep him honest defensively:

1. Dwight will be there and he'll feel more confident out there.
2. Nash is there to take part of the load offensively, giving him more general energy.
3. Meeks is here to give him legitimate rest in games.

Im not saying he'll ever be great again, but he'll be better than we've seen from him these last couple years. Playing with Howard and Peace, he's going to want to prove he's still a good defender in his own right. I'd say he'll at least be decent this season.

Back on topic though, I think this thread has run it's course. I can see Martin getting an offer pretty soon here for more than the minimum. I think that's what he's waiting for. Especially since he won't get a ton of time in LA. Then again he probably won't get a ton more time in Brooklyn either. Who knows? Maybe we'll keep getting lucky here.
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby Texas Lakers Fan on Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:08 pm

bruddahmanmatt wrote:
Texas Lakers Fan wrote:
bruddahmanmatt wrote:
nthydro wrote:Can you imagine running this lineup defensively:

PG = (Meeks?)
SG = Kobe
SF = Metta
PF = Martin
C = Howard

Offensively it wouldn't be too great but defensively that's pretty damn scary.


No offense but these days, the only thing scary about Kobe defensively is how horribad he is at that end of the floor.

Did you watch the Olympics at all? Kobe was a monster on that end. Now he doesn't go all out like World Peace every game because he simply can't do it anymore without getting gassed and having nothing left for the offensive end. To say he's horribad is just ridiculous. Kobe is still an above average defender.


Bruh, he averaged 17.5 minutes per game in London where hand checking is allowed...while playing alongside guys with ridonkulous athleticism out on the perimeter...oh yeah, and to top it all off, the man had Tyson Chandler behind him protecting the rim.

Kobe is capable of having a solid defensive performance or two here and there, but these days he's almost always pretty much awful at that end of the floor. The fact that he was named to the All-D team last year while Iguodala wasn't shows how blind the folks who voted are. FWIW, it's not Bryant's fault, the man is simply 33 going on 34.

So it's Kobe's fault he playing with great defenders on Team USA? C'mon now. Bottomline is Kobe played GREAT defense for his team which was a huge reason they won the Gold Medal again.

Last year in the NBA for the Lakers Kobe had so much responsibility offensively. He had to be the faciltator, was the only perimeter player that could create his own shot, and was the only true/legit closer on the team. Keep in mind this is a guy who's 33 years old and has played in the NBA since he was 17 years old. That's a ton of resoonsibility so to expect him to be able to conistently play lockdown defense is just unrealistic. He may of not deserved to be an All NBA defender, but he wasn't the only one. He's not a great defender on a consistent basis, but he's showm he can be when he puts his mind to it. Overall he's a decent defender. Far from awful. Awful would be Derek Fisher, Ramon Sessions, or Steve Blake.
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby LAKEROC on Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:37 am

About as close to my "dream season" as I wanted.

I wanted Steve Nash....we got him

I wanted Dwight Howard....and ONLY for Andrew Bynum...we got that deal done

I wanted Devin Ebanks and Jordan Hill resigned......Mitch got those deals done

I wanted Ramon Sessions to take his 1 year PO at 4.5 and be Nash's backup....We DID NOT get this done :man6:

I wanted Antwan Jamison for the vet. minimum....We got that deal done

I want Mitch to get Leandro Barbosa for vet . minimum deal.....This is a possibility

I wanted Mitch to trade Chris Duhon+ Andrew Goudelock for Harrison Barnes....No I haven't been puffing the magic dragon lately.

I wanted the Lakers to offer Etan Thomas a 1 year vet. minimum deal.... Thomas as a 3rd string power forward, who could also play center would be great for the Lakers, in addition to his high character on and off the court. If only Kenyon Martin knew how to carry himself with as much class and integrity as Thomas does, I think he'd already be in a Laker uniform.




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Bryant/Meeks/Barbosa
Artest/Harrison Barnes/Ebanks
Gasol/Jamsion/Thomas
Howard/Hill
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby therealdeal on Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:54 am

LAKEROC wrote:I wanted the Lakers to offer Etan Thomas a 1 year vet. minimum deal.... Thomas as a 3rd string power forward, who could also play center would be great for the Lakers, in addition to his high character on and off the court. If only Kenyon Martin knew how to carry himself with as much class and integrity as Thomas does, I think he'd already be in a Laker uniform.

If you made more posts like this, people might actually take you seriously. This is well thought out, coherent, and not a ton of weird junk you put together in your head.

Please, please make more points like that and less posts like this:
LAKEROC wrote:I wanted Mitch to trade Chris Duhon+ Andrew Goudelock for Harrison Barnes....


That^ is just nonsense. There's no way that happens and there's no reason to keep bringing it up. It's basically spam at this point.
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby KareemTheGreat33 on Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:04 am

So, has he signed with the Knicks yet?
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby KareemTheGreat33 on Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:08 am

KareemTheGreat33 wrote:
kray28 wrote:That lip tattoo was disgusting to look at... :disagree:

I'll admit it, this is the reason I don't want him :man10: Personally I like Dwight and Drew, for being clean. But I like Shaq's Superman shield and the Undertaker's arms, so bad a**. Those are artwork. I don't like Martin, Barnes, Birdman and Cherokee Parks (the worst). It looked purposeless scribbles to me.

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Not complaining or anything but why is that a swear word? It is used on primetime television. It's not an expletive. No one gets offended when called a bada**
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby therealdeal on Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:12 am

KareemTheGreat33 wrote:So, has he signed with the Knicks yet?

I thought it was between us and the Nets. If it's between us and the Knicks he should go there. More playing time, more time with his friends and past teammates. Maybe Kidd can make him good again. :man10:

If he wants to win, come here. If not, have fun in New York. No big deal.
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby lakersin4 on Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:18 am

KareemTheGreat33 wrote:
KareemTheGreat33 wrote:
kray28 wrote:That lip tattoo was disgusting to look at... :disagree:

I'll admit it, this is the reason I don't want him :man10: Personally I like Dwight and Drew, for being clean. But I like Shaq's Superman shield and the Undertaker's arms, so bad a**. Those are artwork. I don't like Martin, Barnes, Birdman and Cherokee Parks (the worst). It looked purposeless scribbles to me.

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Not complaining or anything but why is that a swear word? It is used on primetime television. It's not an expletive. No one gets offended when called a bada**

Unless it's in this manner

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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby Doc Brown on Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:23 am

LAKEROC wrote:About as close to my "dream season" as I wanted.

I wanted Antwan Jamison for the vet. minimum....We got that deal done

I want Mitch to get Leandro Barbosa for vet . minimum deal.....This is a possibility

I wanted Mitch to trade Chris Duhon+ Andrew Goudelock for Harrison Barnes....No I haven't been puffing the magic dragon lately.


I'm not smoking anything, but my perfect offseason would be this.....

Duhon / Glock for Lebron
Morris / Blake for Durant
DJO/Sacre for Rondo
Ebanks for Love
MWP for Harden
Hill for Hibbert

:man4: :man4: :man4: Mitch would be the man if he pulled this off!!!

Rondo / Nash
Kobe / Harden
Lebron / Durant
Love / Pau
D12 / Hibbert

No pipedream at all....If Mitch can do this. :man13:

Add in Jamison / Barbosa / Martin / Meeks / Terrence Williams / Pietrus and that team is unreal.
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