Kenyon Martin: why u no want me?

Kobe Bryant 8 wrote:

LAKEROC wrote:Chris Duhon+ Andrew Goudelock+ Robert Sacre+ pick+cash for Klay Thompson and Harrison Barnes!!!

Just stop. Please.

khmrP wrote:

LAKEROC wrote:Chris Duhon+ Andrew Goudelock+ Robert Sacre+ pick+cash for Klay Thompson and Harrison Barnes!!!


I'd love to see Mycheal Thompson's reaction, if we did that one.

why stop at that, Blake/Ebanks for Durant

Hate K-Mart with a passion don't want him here...lets see what Earl Clark can do. anyways it doesn't matter our team is stacked!

No Kmart go with barbosa and t mac
Tmac doesn't have to play every game which means ebanks gets some min and barbosa means no blake which is perfect and we have Earl Clark as insurance big we set yell™

@those deals ... the start of the season can't come soon enough

ben_ready wrote:No Kmart go with barbosa and t mac
Tmac doesn't have to play every game which means ebanks gets some min and barbosa means no blake which is perfect and we have Earl Clark as insurance big we set yell™

I actually agree, but I'd prefer Dominic McGuire or Terrance Williams with Barbosa over T-Mac. But I think T-Mac would help us too, but we'd be better off with another young guy like Hill & Meeks to balance put the lineup. McGuire is especially interesting to me. He's already a great defender & learning from Ron & Kobe, could become a really special player.

K-Mart isn't necessary at all unless Dwight is going to miss significant time. & even then, Jamison played 33 MPG last season. If Pau has to step up & play 36 MPG he's proven he can do that. That only leaves 28 MPG to fill in the frontcourt. Jordan Hill would obviously see the bulk along with Clark or Sacre getting a shot, but adding a capable backup SF(or Ebanks stepping up) would allow Ron to play some PF for us. He's done it & been fairly successful at it in the past.

Mcquire would be excellent can't have enough defensive aces on the team. I just like the way tmac runs the second unit he showed me alot with the hawks. But if mcquire is out there we should seek him out yell™

I don't know, but I don't like having a Laker that is constantly kissed in the neck!!!

That lip tattoo was disgusting to look at...

Before

after

I think it looks worse now, can't even tell what's on it.

kray28 wrote:That lip tattoo was disgusting to look at...

I'll admit it, this is the reason I don't want him Personally I like Dwight and Drew, for being clean. But I like Shaq's Superman shield and the Undertaker's arms, so bad a**. Those are artwork. I don't like Martin, Barnes, Birdman and Cherokee Parks (the worst). It looked purposeless scribbles to me.

Don't bypass the swear filter- Barnstable

KareemTheGreat33 wrote:I'll admit it, this is the reason I don't want him Personally I like Dwight and Drew, for being clean. But I like Shaq's Superman shield and the Undertaker's arms, so bad a**. Those are artwork. I don't like Martin, Barnes, Birdman and Cherokee Parks (the worst). It looked purposeless scribbles to me.

Updated....

Reasons you don't want Martin....

1.) He has a lip tattoo and tattoo's in general

2.) Earl Clark brings the average age of team down

3.) He's a "fugazy"

4.) Crazy stalker chicks would stab D12

5.) He's a freak

Can you imagine running this lineup defensively:

PG = (Meeks?)
SG = Kobe
SF = Metta
PF = Martin
C = Howard

Offensively it wouldn't be too great but defensively that's pretty damn scary.

nthydro wrote:Can you imagine running this lineup defensively:

PG = (Meeks?)
SG = Kobe
SF = Metta
PF = Martin
C = Howard

Offensively it wouldn't be too great but defensively that's pretty damn scary.

No offense but these days, the only thing scary about Kobe defensively is how horribad he is at that end of the floor.

bruddahmanmatt wrote:

nthydro wrote:Can you imagine running this lineup defensively:

PG = (Meeks?)
SG = Kobe
SF = Metta
PF = Martin
C = Howard

Offensively it wouldn't be too great but defensively that's pretty damn scary.

No offense but these days, the only thing scary about Kobe defensively is how horribad he is at that end of the floor.

He was great against Olympic competition.

Doc Brown wrote:

KareemTheGreat33 wrote:I'll admit it, this is the reason I don't want him Personally I like Dwight and Drew, for being clean. But I like Shaq's Superman shield and the Undertaker's arms, so bad a**. Those are artwork. I don't like Martin, Barnes, Birdman and Cherokee Parks (the worst). It looked purposeless scribbles to me.

Updated....

Reasons you don't want Martin....

1.) He has a lip tattoo and tattoo's in general

2.) Earl Clark brings the average age of team down

3.) He's a "fugazy"

4.) Crazy stalker chicks would stab D12

5.) He's a freak

I think we can include that one on he is a freak

bruddahmanmatt wrote:

nthydro wrote:Can you imagine running this lineup defensively:

PG = (Meeks?)
SG = Kobe
SF = Metta
PF = Martin
C = Howard

Offensively it wouldn't be too great but defensively that's pretty damn scary.

No offense but these days, the only thing scary about Kobe defensively is how horribad he is at that end of the floor.

Did you watch the Olympics at all? Kobe was a monster on that end. Now he doesn't go all out like World Peace every game because he simply can't do it anymore without getting gassed and having nothing left for the offensive end. To say he's horribad is just ridiculous. Kobe is still an above average defender.

Texas Lakers Fan wrote:

bruddahmanmatt wrote:

nthydro wrote:Can you imagine running this lineup defensively:

PG = (Meeks?)
SG = Kobe
SF = Metta
PF = Martin
C = Howard

Offensively it wouldn't be too great but defensively that's pretty damn scary.

No offense but these days, the only thing scary about Kobe defensively is how horribad he is at that end of the floor.

Did you watch the Olympics at all? Kobe was a monster on that end. Now he doesn't go all out like World Peace every game because he simply can't do it anymore without getting gassed and having nothing left for the offensive end. To say he's horribad is just ridiculous. Kobe is still an above average defender.

Bruh, he averaged 17.5 minutes per game in London where hand checking is allowed...while playing alongside guys with ridonkulous athleticism out on the perimeter...oh yeah, and to top it all off, the man had Tyson Chandler behind him protecting the rim.

Kobe is capable of having a solid defensive performance or two here and there, but these days he's almost always pretty much awful at that end of the floor. The fact that he was named to the All-D team last year while Iguodala wasn't shows how blind the folks who voted are. FWIW, it's not Bryant's fault, the man is simply 33 going on 34.

^ To be fair, he'll have Tyson's bigger, better brother behind him this season.

therealdeal wrote:^ To be fair, he'll have Tyson's bigger, better brother behind him this season.

Oh I agree, but his minutes will go up, he's got Nash out back with him instead of CP360, and hand checking while not completely banned (despite the myth that it is) is certainly, shall we say "frowned upon" if abused. I think Dwight will help to mask everyone's (Nash, Kobe and Pau) shortcomings at the defensive end, but Bryant hasn't been an All-D player since 2010. He shows flashes every now and again, but more often than not he's pretty awful at that end of the floor. Again, it's not his fault, he's simply aging while guards only continue to get stronger and faster. It's not just that Bryant is old, guys with Westbrook's speed simply haven't existed until now.

the only reason not to want Martin is because there is no place for him and Jamison/Hill is already a perfect combo off the bench.

If you watched the Clippers game, you saw nothing but really good play from him given the player he is these days... he played great D, hit the mid range shot, and played 3 positions often closing closing games.

He's not some cancerous player and he's not a bad fit. He is just flat out not needed. I love having a bully that won't put up with ish. I know we already have Ron, but Martin would bring even more toughness. For as much as Howard gets hacked and as much as people try to push Pau around, he'd be a welcome addition in terms of toughness. I'm sure Kobe and Dwight would feel the same way. It's not likle he could turn this franchise into the Thuggets or Jailblazers...

bruddahmanmatt wrote:

therealdeal wrote:^ To be fair, he'll have Tyson's bigger, better brother behind him this season.

Oh I agree, but his minutes will go up, he's got Nash out back with him instead of CP360, and hand checking while not completely banned (despite the myth that it is) is certainly, shall we say "frowned upon" if abused.

Oh I'm not saying he'll be a great defender, just pointing out that he'll be (or at least look) fine.

I think he'll actually be better than we've seen the last couple years in LA. Kobe is generally receptive to the team around him. When he plays in the All-Star game, he plays differently than when he plays with LA. Part of that is because it's only one game in limited time, but some of that is because he loves playing with guys that are young and athletic. The last two years have been pretty negative and he sacrificed his defense greatly to be able to carry the load defensively. There's a few things that'll help keep him honest defensively:

1. Dwight will be there and he'll feel more confident out there.
2. Nash is there to take part of the load offensively, giving him more general energy.
3. Meeks is here to give him legitimate rest in games.

Im not saying he'll ever be great again, but he'll be better than we've seen from him these last couple years. Playing with Howard and Peace, he's going to want to prove he's still a good defender in his own right. I'd say he'll at least be decent this season.

Back on topic though, I think this thread has run it's course. I can see Martin getting an offer pretty soon here for more than the minimum. I think that's what he's waiting for. Especially since he won't get a ton of time in LA. Then again he probably won't get a ton more time in Brooklyn either. Who knows? Maybe we'll keep getting lucky here.