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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby Doc Brown on Mon Aug 06, 2012 12:55 pm

GoldHammish wrote:Seems a little too complicated for Potato head to come up with :man10:


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Someone get that clown a flow chart for this complicated scheme.
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby Helljumper on Mon Aug 06, 2012 1:01 pm

Only way I see him coming is if we trade Pau for a SF and move Jamison into the starting line-up.
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby Punk-101 on Mon Aug 06, 2012 1:06 pm

Helljumper wrote:Only way I see him coming is if we trade Pau for a SF and move Jamison into the starting line-up.

That's what I was thinking.
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby lakersin4 on Mon Aug 06, 2012 1:12 pm

Helljumper wrote:Only way I see him coming is if we trade Pau for a SF and move Jamison into the starting line-up.

I would have liked this idea much more before Nash & the Princeton Offense.. Pau is much more valuable to us than he is in trade now
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby karacha on Mon Aug 06, 2012 1:30 pm

I don't think Pau is going to be traded after all this talk about Princeton offense, Kobe's statements etc.
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby therealdeal on Mon Aug 06, 2012 1:37 pm

karacha wrote:I don't think Pau is going to be traded after all this talk about Princeton offense, Kobe's statements etc.

This especially. Kobe has really stuck his neck out there for Pau. No way he gets traded now.
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby Frank Dux on Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:36 pm

Nothing more than his agent trying to stir up interest. We don't need him as we are utterly loaded at the 4 position.
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby Texas Lakers Fan on Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:40 pm

therealdeal wrote:
karacha wrote:I don't think Pau is going to be traded after all this talk about Princeton offense, Kobe's statements etc.

This especially. Kobe has really stuck his neck out there for Pau. No way he gets traded now.

That was really cool on Kobe's part to do that. That's what you call a great teammate there.
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?role

Postby Rooscooter on Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:52 pm

At this point in his career does he really bring anymore than McRoberts would?.... McRoberts was misused last year and I believe if he's given the right he can be better than "Lips" and much more dependable.....
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?role

Postby FabFourLakers on Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:59 pm

Rooscooter wrote:At this point in his career does he really bring anymore than McRoberts would?.... McRoberts was misused last year and I believe if he's given the right he can be better than "Lips" and much more dependable.....



He brings defense and toughness. McRoberts doesn't bring either of that. He can also defend multiple positions. He is one of the best at defending the pick and roll as well. I don't think McRoberts can touch K-Mart in any category except maybe dunking....
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby karacha on Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:59 pm

Defensively, he probably does. Other then that... I'm not sure.
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby Doc Brown on Mon Aug 06, 2012 3:00 pm

Per Eric Pincus

According to the rock-solid @sam_amick, Kenyon Martin is talking to the Lakers and Nets. For the Lakers, it doesn't add up if they have Pau, Jamison, Hill, Bynum and McRoberts - but if they think that out via a Howard trade with Josh out - Kenyon is a very solid add. He's the definition of surly and doesn't have much of any offensive game other than clean-up points - but he can still defend multiple positions and bailed out the Clippers more than once last season
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?role

Postby Rooscooter on Mon Aug 06, 2012 3:17 pm

FabFourLakers wrote:
Rooscooter wrote:At this point in his career does he really bring anymore than McRoberts would?.... McRoberts was misused last year and I believe if he's given the right he can be better than "Lips" and much more dependable.....



He brings defense and toughness. McRoberts doesn't bring either of that. He can also defend multiple positions. He is one of the best at defending the pick and roll as well. I don't think McRoberts can touch K-Mart in any category except maybe dunking....


I think you're overestimating what he has left and remembering what he was...... in his prime I'd agree... but he isn't anywhere near that anymore.

McRoberts is a pure energy player that move well without the ball and is very good at ball handling and passing for his position..... even in his prime Martin wasn't that good at either of those things. Have you watched K-Mart shoot a jumper?...... I think McBob, while not being great for us last year, is a better face up shooter as well.

Martin is still a decent defender but now that his legs are fading his ability to rebound and defend isn't near what it used to be. He's still a little better than McRoberts but I'm not sure the difference is that big anymore. Martin will miss 25% of the season or more..... that's about average for him.... I kind of view him as a Ratliff 2.0 possibility or a JO....

lastly don't confuse "toughness" for "cheapness"..... :man1:
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby ericdabbs on Mon Aug 06, 2012 5:35 pm

I like Kenyon Martin. He was really solid for the Clippers last year. If he was willing to take the minimum I would do it. I would rather the Lakers get rid of Mcroberts somehow to free up some salary.
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby marcelo on Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:27 pm

Everytime someone posts here writing "mentioning the Lakers to get more money/page hits", a puppy dies. Think about that.
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby GoldHammish on Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:14 pm

marcelo wrote:Everytime someone posts here writing "mentioning the Lakers to get more money/page hits", a puppy dies. Think about that.

khmrP wrote:throwing Laker name to get more money, nothing new here.

therealdeal wrote:Leverage. No more, no less.

XXIV wrote:
khmrP wrote:throwing Laker name to get more money, nothing new here.


That's what I'm thinking as well.

432J wrote:classic case of just throwing the lakers name out there to get more interest and money from other teams

Frank Dux wrote:Nothing more than his agent trying to stir up interest. We don't need him as we are utterly loaded at the 4 position.
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby Doc Brown on Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:16 pm

And a record has been set for most people in agreement at one time on ClubLakers.

Congratulations you guys. :jam2:
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby LakersSquadup on Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:23 pm

I would welcome the signing of K Mart. He's a good perimeter defender and he blocks shots. Mcbob would be the odd man out for me.

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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby laker911 on Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:34 pm

Finwë wrote:
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KeepBynum wrote:I like what the front office is doing though. I talked about a little in my video, but our bigs played way too many minutes last season. Drew who averaged about 35 mpg. Pau averaged 38 mpg. That's way too many minutes. That number went up even more in the postseason. People talk about their lack of a consistent effort in the postseason, but I think all those minutes they played made them fatigued and are a big reason for their lack of effort.

True, but you're already looking at Jamison and McRoberts backing up the 4 with Hill there and behind Bynum as well. There's 96 minutes available at the 4/5 spot this season and At least 60 are going to Bynum/Gasol, probably closer to 65-68. That leaves 28-31 minutes for 3 guys who are already capable of contributing. Add in another and I think that qualifies as a log-jam.

If we moved McRoberts for someone and then brought in Martin somehow that'd be gravy. We could slide Jamison up and have a solid defender/rebounder in there at the 4. We can do the same with McRoberts though and we're already paying him over 3 million.

therealdeal always makes great points. Agreed.

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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby JSM on Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:31 am

As the roster stands, he's not needed. We need to focus on getting a guard first. Once we get Meeks or whoever, if we still want to add depth, pick him up. I'd rather have him than JO, he has more left in the tank and probably would be the best big man insurance that is left on the market due to his D and ability to defend multiple spots (C-SF, depending on the player). This really only makes sense if we make a trade.
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby LakersN4 on Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:09 am

There has to be more to this, we're loaded in the frontcourt.. Jamison more than replaces McRoberts so I don't think that's the story here.. When is Jordan Hill eligible to be traded? :bang: I wouldn't be surprised if Hill is being dangled to Orlando.. They were one of the teams that had interest in him in the offseason.. If both Hill and McRoberts are going out in a D12 deal, K-Mart makes a lot more sense.. I hope we sign him either way. He's a good asset for cheap
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby Finwë on Tue Aug 07, 2012 4:03 pm

Oh F U laker911 :man10:
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby the_Dude on Tue Aug 07, 2012 4:17 pm

JSM wrote:As the roster stands, he's not needed. We need to focus on getting a guard first. Once we get Meeks or whoever, if we still want to add depth, pick him up. I'd rather have him than JO, he has more left in the tank and probably would be the best big man insurance that is left on the market due to his D and ability to defend multiple spots (C-SF, depending on the player). This really only makes sense if we make a trade.

Couldn't agree more. Maybe there will be a 6'11" gift from Orlando waiting for Kobe after USA brings home a repeat Gold(fingers crossed). If that gift requires Ebanks and McRoberts then K-Mart can definitely fill that gap but picking him up as the roster stands now just doesn't seem like a priority vs SG.
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby JSM on Thu Aug 09, 2012 9:33 am

Alex Kennedy of HoopsWorld wrote: After spending last season with the Los Angeles Clippers, Martin is talking with several teams. The Los Angeles Lakers and Brooklyn Nets are reportedly among the teams expressing interest in the 12-year veteran. Martin wants to play for a contender that will give him significant minutes. Sources close to the 34-year-old had previously said that he wasn’t going to sign for the veteran’s minimum, but he may not have a choice given how long he has waited to sign. The list of teams with money to spend is short, especially when further narrowed down to only include contenders. There’s no timetable for Martin to sign, but he’s negotiating with teams and considering his options. In 42 games with the Clippers, Martin averaged 5.2 points, 4.3 rebounds, one block and one steal.
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby Punk-101 on Thu Aug 09, 2012 9:38 am

^^

He must know something we don't if he's in contacts with us and wants significant minutes. why would he waste his time knowing we have Gasol, Jamison, Mcbob, and Hill? Maybe he's been told that two of those are in the process of being gone?
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