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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby V.V.V.V.V. on Sun Aug 19, 2012 5:02 pm

Kenyon is a great defender, and he still has some athleticism in him at 35 or whatever. But he is classless and crazy, a distraction in the locker room. I prefer crazy Artest and crazy Barnes to the Kenyon. In fact, in terms of attitude, Artest > Barnes > Kenyon.
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby JSM on Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:41 pm

LAKEROC wrote:Can we please just get Leandro Barbosa and Etan Thomas for vet minimum deals, and just call it a day? Both are good quality guys, who would be great for our Locker room, and who both are good leaders on and off the court. Barbosa could be used as a combo 1-2. He was friends with Nash in Phoenix, and had a fantastic Olmypics, and while Thomas could provide toughness in the middle in the event of a Howard absence. He is a good rebounder, and is a great team player. I would be honored to have both of these guys in purple and gold.

Barbosa and Thomas....Please make it happen Mitch!!!! :jam2:

Etan Thomas? No thank you. I want someone who can contribute if he has to. Thomas is good for the locker room and he's one of the most intelligent people playing in the NBA, but he's done. No ifs ands or buts about it. I had the opportunity to see some of those 13 games he suited up for with the Hawks last season...he has nothing left and that's being generous. He was a good player once upon a time in Washington, but he has zero mobility left. If we're talking other limited options, then at least give me Big Ben.
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby ShuxAms on Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:28 pm

Not that I want KMart but in my opinion having a team full of "classy guys" is both unrealistic and lame. A lot of players are outwardly "thug" or just weird. The Bulls teams had Rodman of all people who was like a thug turned cross-dresser with different colored fro's every game. I think guys like that added personality to the team and I felt guys like Luc Longley were pretty lame in contrast.

Most players are tatted up, drink, smoke weed, frequent strip clubs and casinos, and even throw orgies so I don't think someone like KMart is much worse than the majority just because he can't control his emotions sometimes. We're all human and emotions get the best of all of us sometimes. I get mad and say all kinds of things I regret from time to time and it'd suck if I had millions of people scrutinizing everything I ever said. There's a million reasons to want to kick someone's behind and a million different ways to say it, just because someone chooses to elaborate themselves in a thuggish manner doesn't make it any worse. Sorry for the rambling lol.
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby KareemTheGreat33 on Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:35 pm

I will reiterate, more than anything, I fear that Martin's stalker will accidentally stab Dwight while attacking Lips. Do we really take that chance for a fifth big who will be a bench warmer. :man9:
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby Lakerjones on Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:49 pm

I'm fine with it either way. Vets min is dirt cheap for a guy who can legitimately step in and play like KMART.

But yeah, I can't stand the guy either and would have no problem at all NOT having him on our team. :man10:

He's much worse than Barnes. He's a complete tool. But if he come here he'll be our tool, just like Barnes became our knucklehead. I can't help liking Barnes better - he's a Bruin. :man10:
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby thisbjgz on Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:58 pm

Lakerjones wrote:I'm fine with it either way. Vets min is dirt cheap for a guy who can legitimately step in and play like KMART.

But yeah, I can't stand the guy either and would have no problem at all NOT having him on our team. :man10:

He's much worse than Barnes. He's a complete tool. But if he come here he'll be our tool, just like Barnes became our knucklehead. I can't help liking Barnes better - he's a Bruin. :man10:


my thoughts exactly. One of those guys you can't stand on the other team, but when he's on yours, you have no problem.

If he came, we would have 3 of those guys in Metta, Barnes, and KMart.
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby Aonex on Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:02 pm

Hopefully the Nets sign him.
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby therealdeal on Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:54 pm

thisbjgz wrote:
Lakerjones wrote:I'm fine with it either way. Vets min is dirt cheap for a guy who can legitimately step in and play like KMART.

But yeah, I can't stand the guy either and would have no problem at all NOT having him on our team. :man10:

He's much worse than Barnes. He's a complete tool. But if he come here he'll be our tool, just like Barnes became our knucklehead. I can't help liking Barnes better - he's a Bruin. :man10:


my thoughts exactly. One of those guys you can't stand on the other team, but when he's on yours, you have no problem.

If he came, we would have 3 of those guys in Metta, Barnes, and KMart.

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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby V.V.V.V.V. on Sun Aug 19, 2012 11:01 pm

ShuxAms wrote:Not that I want KMart but in my opinion having a team full of "classy guys" is both unrealistic and lame. A lot of players are outwardly "thug" or just weird. The Bulls teams had Rodman of all people who was like a thug turned cross-dresser with different colored fro's every game. I think guys like that added personality to the team and I felt guys like Luc Longley were pretty lame in contrast.

Most players are tatted up, drink, smoke weed, frequent strip clubs and casinos, and even throw orgies so I don't think someone like KMart is much worse than the majority just because he can't control his emotions sometimes. We're all human and emotions get the best of all of us sometimes. I get mad and say all kinds of things I regret from time to time and it'd suck if I had millions of people scrutinizing everything I ever said. There's a million reasons to want to kick someone's behind and a million different ways to say it, just because someone chooses to elaborate themselves in a thuggish manner doesn't make it any worse. Sorry for the rambling lol.


Don't get me wrong, I think it's useful to have an "enforcer" on the team, who is sometimes a little rough around the edges. But we have that in Artest, and some guys become a distraction on a championship team if they carry it too far. Barnes had some issues last year, and so did Artest. Kenyon has a history of causing trouble with players outside the court, and he doesn't make up for it enough on the court for it to be worth it. Artest brings ALOT to the table defensively, and Rodman was incredible on the court. Barnes wasn't worth the antics, and IMO Kmart isn't either.
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby Center Court on Sun Aug 19, 2012 11:10 pm

Aonex wrote:Hopefully the Nets sign him.


Hopefully... because he'd be a big addition to either OKC or Miami.
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Celtics Interested In Kenyon Martin

Postby Kobe8Fan on Thu Sep 13, 2012 8:24 pm

Celtics Interested In Kenyon Martin

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Meanwhile, the player who Barnes would essentially be replacing, Martin, remains unemployed despite his reputation as a tenacious defender and enforcer. He's the sort of veteran that could come in handy for any contender, but here's the crucial rub: It appears that most, if not all, of the interested teams want him to sign a veteran's minimum deal.

The Lakers and Celtics have shown interest previously, but the question now is whether the 34-year-old Martin will hold out until midseason or perhaps even retire if he doesn't get a deal and a situation to his liking. His leading competitor in this corner of the free-agent market is journeyman forward Louis Amundson, the 29-year-old who came off the bench for Indiana last season.


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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby LooN3y on Thu Sep 13, 2012 9:25 pm

barbosa, k-mart, and t-mac,


do it mitch all for the vets min, given that we can ship all those 2nd rounders and atleast either duhon or blake.


t-mac = point forward on your bench, given that barbosa is a straight scorer, k-mart for insurance.


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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby KareemTheGreat33 on Thu Sep 13, 2012 9:31 pm

V.V.V.V.V. wrote:
ShuxAms wrote:Not that I want KMart but in my opinion having a team full of "classy guys" is both unrealistic and lame. A lot of players are outwardly "thug" or just weird. The Bulls teams had Rodman of all people who was like a thug turned cross-dresser with different colored fro's every game. I think guys like that added personality to the team and I felt guys like Luc Longley were pretty lame in contrast.

Most players are tatted up, drink, smoke weed, frequent strip clubs and casinos, and even throw orgies so I don't think someone like KMart is much worse than the majority just because he can't control his emotions sometimes. We're all human and emotions get the best of all of us sometimes. I get mad and say all kinds of things I regret from time to time and it'd suck if I had millions of people scrutinizing everything I ever said. There's a million reasons to want to kick someone's behind and a million different ways to say it, just because someone chooses to elaborate themselves in a thuggish manner doesn't make it any worse. Sorry for the rambling lol.


Don't get me wrong, I think it's useful to have an "enforcer" on the team, who is sometimes a little rough around the edges. But we have that in Artest, and some guys become a distraction on a championship team if they carry it too far. Barnes had some issues last year, and so did Artest. Kenyon has a history of causing trouble with players outside the court, and he doesn't make up for it enough on the court for it to be worth it. Artest brings ALOT to the table defensively, and Rodman was incredible on the court. Barnes wasn't worth the antics, and IMO Kmart isn't either.


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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby lakersin4 on Fri Sep 14, 2012 6:35 am

LooN3y wrote:barbosa, k-mart, and t-mac,


do it mitch all for the vets min, given that we can ship all those 2nd rounders and atleast either duhon or blake.


t-mac = point forward on your bench, given that barbosa is a straight scorer, k-mart for insurance.


i dont trust ebanks

T-Mac & Barbosa really are great compliments to each other on the bench unit.. Then we have the young shooter Meeks. Can't see us adding 2 or 3 more players at this point tbh. As much as I like K-Mart, these 2 guys would fill bigger needs for us imo.
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby LakerFan1980 on Fri Sep 14, 2012 7:05 am

Get him now!
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby JSM on Fri Sep 14, 2012 10:01 am

Alright K-Mart, it doesn't look like you're going to get an offer in the states of anything other than the minimum. Two contenders and a playoff team are interested in you. Lakers, Cs, and Knicks. Kidd has already made you more money in your career than you ever deserved, so the minimum is just fine for your services. Given the options, I hope he makes the right decision.
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby JSM on Fri Sep 28, 2012 1:20 am

Marc J. Spears ‏@SpearsNBAYahoo

Free agent F Kenyon Martin's preference is to play in NBA in 12-13 & he turned down offer from Israel Maccabi,his agent Andy Miller tells Y!

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Kenyon Martin will only take minimum NBA contract in a "comfortable" team role,his agent Andy Miller tells Y! Nothing imminent with any team

He's finally realized he's only going to get the minimum...that's the first step.
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby Tobias Funke on Fri Sep 28, 2012 1:30 am

Sometimes reality takes a while to set in.

Is Pietrus still holding out for more money? Him I could understand, he's like 5 or 6 years younger than Martin, and this is probably his last chance at a contract thats anything more than the minimum.
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby therealdeal on Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:07 am

At this point unless we could find a way to be rid of Clark then eff it. Money is already tight. He should have hopped on when he had the chance, but with training camp around the corner, lost teams aren't going to want to add many people.

Dump Blake and Clark on someone for a conditional 2nd rounder. Then sign Martin, cut Goudelock, and sign Odom and Barbosa.
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby jadej2 on Sat Sep 29, 2012 10:27 pm

therealdeal wrote:At this point unless we could find a way to be rid of Clark then eff it. Money is already tight. He should have hopped on when he had the chance, but with training camp around the corner, lost teams aren't going to want to add many people.

Dump Blake and Clark on someone for a conditional 2nd rounder. Then sign Martin, cut Goudelock, and sign Odom and Barbosa.


Yeah, but it won't happen plus I can't stand Martin anyways, and Barbosa is not coming here either.
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby therealdeal on Sun Sep 30, 2012 12:10 am

Okay :man10:. Well you cleared that up.
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby revgen on Sun Sep 30, 2012 10:38 am

We have enough PF's and SF's. If we need to add a frontcourt player, a backup C would make more sense.
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby jadej2 on Sun Sep 30, 2012 2:25 pm

therealdeal wrote:Okay :man10:. Well you cleared that up.


You damn right I did, and I'm not laughing.
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby therealdeal on Sun Sep 30, 2012 2:28 pm

jadej2 wrote:
therealdeal wrote:Okay :man10:. Well you cleared that up.


You damn right I did, and I'm not laughing.

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I'm not trying to tease you man, just saying. Anyone who comes in here and makes absolute comments without a smile is going to get called on it.
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Re: Kenyon Martin To Lakers?

Postby jadej2 on Sun Sep 30, 2012 2:33 pm

therealdeal wrote:
jadej2 wrote:
therealdeal wrote:Okay :man10:. Well you cleared that up.


You damn right I did, and I'm not laughing.

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I'm not trying to tease you man, just saying. Anyone who comes in here and makes absolute comments without a smile is going to get called on it.


I understand I'm just a little sensitive in that topic because I was teased a lot in school so bad I nearly took out one of the kids who made fun of me, but the teacher broke it up, and since then I had anger issues, and get defensive if people try to make fun of me. So I'm trying to relax more on that issue,
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