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Re: Lamar Odom Discussion: NOT Checked Into Rehab (p. 35)

Postby GoldenKnight on Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:32 am

LAMAR ODOM MEETS WITH LAKERS

Lamar Odom is way beyond first impressions with the Lakers ... but, all the same, he got a fresh shave of his head for a meeting with the team on Monday ... TMZ has learned.

Lamar's barber in the Valley, a dude named Enzo, hooked up the troubled NBA star Monday morning -- and even gave LO his trademark star on the back of his head ... which he sported during past seasons with the Lakers.

Our sources tell us Lamar met with Laker execs Monday afternoon to discuss terms of a possible return. We're told things went well -- though nothing's been signed -- and that Lamar's first choice has always been to return to the Lakers.
It's pretty amazing ... a little more than a month ago Lamar was smoking crack and deep in the throes of drug addiction. But as we first reported, Odom has been adamant he can cut off his drug abuse without going to rehab.

It remains to be seen if an NBA team buys that (and we know Khloe Kardashian isn't) -- but as one source put it ... lately Lamar has sounded more like his old self.

On his Instagram, Lamar's barber wrote, "Wish em the best of luck in his meeting wit the Lakers today."

Maybe Enzo has the purple and gold touch.

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Re: Lamar Odom Discussion: NOT Checked Into Rehab (p. 35)

Postby Doc Brown on Tue Oct 15, 2013 10:32 am

I wonder if the Lakers aren't happy with Landry/Harris/Kelly and even Hill that they need to see where LO is at and if he can contribute?
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Re: Lamar Odom Discussion: NOT Checked Into Rehab (p. 35)

Postby therealdeal on Tue Oct 15, 2013 12:44 pm

That's crazy. Hill has been less than impressive, but Kelly looked good in limited minutes today and they gave Harris 2 partial guaranteed years. Odom is going to be better than those guys? After months of drug abuse? I doubt it.
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Re: Lamar Odom Discussion: NOT Checked Into Rehab (p. 35)

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Tue Oct 15, 2013 1:34 pm

therealdeal wrote:That's crazy. Hill has been less than impressive, but Kelly looked good in limited minutes today and they gave Harris 2 partial guaranteed years. Odom is going to be better than those guys? After months of drug abuse? I doubt it.

for all LO has done he is still MILES better than all those guys period.
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Re: Lamar Odom Discussion: NOT Checked Into Rehab (p. 35)

Postby therealdeal on Tue Oct 15, 2013 1:38 pm

puffyusaf#2 wrote:
therealdeal wrote:That's crazy. Hill has been less than impressive, but Kelly looked good in limited minutes today and they gave Harris 2 partial guaranteed years. Odom is going to be better than those guys? After months of drug abuse? I doubt it.

for all LO has done he is still MILES better than all those guys period.

Not based on what I've seen the last two years. He's probably on par with those guys over the last two years just with more experience, but better talent wise? That's debatable.
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Re: Lamar Odom Discussion: NOT Checked Into Rehab (p. 35)

Postby GoldenKnight on Tue Oct 15, 2013 3:07 pm

Elias Harris is terrible I'd rather have LO 10/10
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Re: Lamar Odom Discussion: NOT Checked Into Rehab (p. 35)

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Tue Oct 15, 2013 4:24 pm

therealdeal wrote:
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therealdeal wrote:That's crazy. Hill has been less than impressive, but Kelly looked good in limited minutes today and they gave Harris 2 partial guaranteed years. Odom is going to be better than those guys? After months of drug abuse? I doubt it.

for all LO has done he is still MILES better than all those guys period.

Not based on what I've seen the last two years. He's probably on par with those guys over the last two years just with more experience, but better talent wise? That's debatable.


I'd take a motivated LO without hessitation over those guys. Hill is a good garbage man and has improved but is still looking a bit lost out there a bit. Kelly is unknown. The real thing LO brings is he has been there and he can even at 75% of himself bring more than most of these guys without thinking about it.
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Re: Lamar Odom Discussion: NOT Checked Into Rehab (p. 35)

Postby revgen on Tue Oct 15, 2013 5:32 pm

I don't know if LO really fits this particular team. He's not a stretch 4 like Williams. He can rebound the ball, but so can Harris. He's not nearly as athletic anymore like Henry is. Sure, he's a better ballhandler than Henry, but the explosion isn't there anymore. He's a good passer and has excellent oncourt chemistry with Pau, but Kaman seems to be doing the same thing with Pau this preseason. Our major deficit is on the defensive end. LO can be a pretty good P&R and help defender, but that's never been his forte. He's looked awful these last 2 years and the rumors of crack addiction doesn't make me want to take the risk. We need a good ratio of young vs old players. LO tips the old factor just a bit too far IMO.
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Re: Lamar Odom Discussion: NOT Checked Into Rehab (p. 35)

Postby therealdeal on Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:11 pm

puffyusaf#2 wrote:
therealdeal wrote:
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therealdeal wrote:That's crazy. Hill has been less than impressive, but Kelly looked good in limited minutes today and they gave Harris 2 partial guaranteed years. Odom is going to be better than those guys? After months of drug abuse? I doubt it.

for all LO has done he is still MILES better than all those guys period.

Not based on what I've seen the last two years. He's probably on par with those guys over the last two years just with more experience, but better talent wise? That's debatable.


I'd take a motivated LO without hessitation over those guys. Hill is a good garbage man and has improved but is still looking a bit lost out there a bit. Kelly is unknown. The real thing LO brings is he has been there and he can even at 75% of himself bring more than most of these guys without thinking about it.

Sorry puff, but I don't want a guy with such recent drug problems on my team. I don't care if it's Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, or Wilt Chamberlain. If the guy is serious about wanting to get back into the league, he should go through a rehab program as a show of good faith.
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Re: Lamar Odom Discussion: NOT Checked Into Rehab (p. 35)

Postby Rooscooter on Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:54 pm

Rumors of a possible Pau trade and we're now talking to Odom..... Hmmmmm.

Btw.... What "terms" would be discussed? The money is the minimum and if we signed him it would one year....what else is there to talk about?
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Re: Lamar Odom Discussion: NOT Checked Into Rehab (p. 35)

Postby Doc Brown on Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:57 pm

Rooscooter wrote:Rumors of a possible Pau trade and we're now talking to Odom..... Hmmmmm.

Btw.... What "terms" would be discussed? The money is the minimum and if we signed him it would one year....what else is there to talk about?


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Re: Lamar Odom Discussion: NOT Checked Into Rehab (p. 35)

Postby XXIV on Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:05 pm

Rooscooter wrote:Rumors of a possible Pau trade and we're now talking to Odom..... Hmmmmm.

Btw.... What "terms" would be discussed? The money is the minimum and if we signed him it would one year....what else is there to talk about?


He's probably trying to convince the Lakers he doesn't have a drug problem.
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Re: Lamar Odom Discussion: NOT Checked Into Rehab (p. 35)

Postby Lakerjones on Tue Oct 15, 2013 10:22 pm

puffyusaf#2 wrote:
therealdeal wrote:That's crazy. Hill has been less than impressive, but Kelly looked good in limited minutes today and they gave Harris 2 partial guaranteed years. Odom is going to be better than those guys? After months of drug abuse? I doubt it.

for all LO has done he is still MILES better than all those guys period.


I agree with Puffy. Hell, Odom on crack is probably better than all three of those guys put together.

Not to be too harsh, because I do like Hill, but let's face it - he's an injury prone journey man hustle player without much skill and he probably doesn't really fit our current system. Harris is a scrub. Kelly can shoot but that's about it, and he's slow and not athletic with foot problems.

I'd give Odom a shot now that I've seen what we've got. Don't get me started on Landry. I thought he would show us something but as someone already said, he's just a taller Meeks.
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Re: Lamar Odom Discussion: NOT Checked Into Rehab (p. 35)

Postby Weezy on Tue Oct 15, 2013 11:19 pm

What a strange story this continues to be. He's been on a crack binge, but he simply stopped and now he's ready to play and met with the Lakers? :man3: I don't buy it, I don't buy that if his drug use were true that the Lakers would look at him, or that the NBA wouldn't be looking at him, very strange story to me all around.
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Re: Lamar Odom Discussion: NOT Checked Into Rehab (p. 35)

Postby wcsoldier81 on Tue Oct 15, 2013 11:34 pm

Guys ... preseason ... if you think the current LO is a more valuable player than Hill, I don't know what to say
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Re: Lamar Odom Discussion: NOT Checked Into Rehab (p. 35)

Postby wcsoldier81 on Wed Oct 16, 2013 7:37 am

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Re: Lamar Odom Discussion: NOT Checked Into Rehab (p. 35)

Postby revgen on Wed Oct 16, 2013 8:09 am

My guess is that the conversation was "LO, get help with your personal problem, go through rehab. Once you get your personal life in order, we can talk about business." The Lakers also probably recommended certain drug rehab facilities to LO which they feel would help him the best. And it's probably not one of those "malibu" clinics either.

So the Lakers look at the conversation as a "personal" conversation, while LO looks at it as a possible return to the team.
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Re: Lamar Odom Discussion: NOT Checked Into Rehab (p. 35)

Postby KareemTheGreat33 on Wed Oct 16, 2013 8:10 am

I think we enter the season with a roster of 14...with the 15th spot reserved for LO
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Re: Lamar Odom Discussion: NOT Checked Into Rehab (p. 35)

Postby therealdeal on Wed Oct 16, 2013 9:46 am

revgen wrote:My guess is that the conversation was "LO, get help with your personal problem, go through rehab. Once you get your personal life in order, we can talk about business." The Lakers also probably recommended certain drug rehab facilities to LO which they feel would help him the best. And it's probably not one of those "malibu" clinics either.

So the Lakers look at the conversation as a "personal" conversation, while LO looks at it as a possible return to the team.

This.

What happened to you guys? :man10: A few weeks ago we were all on the same page: if Lamar wants back he needs to go through rehab. Now you're all willing to give him a shot for no reason?

Why would we do that? That's enabling. No drug addicts before rehab please.
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Re: Lamar Odom Discussion: NOT Checked Into Rehab (p. 35)

Postby revgen on Fri Nov 01, 2013 2:25 am

Phil Jackson says he's concerned about former Laker Lamar Odom



By Eric Pincus

October 31, 2013, 1:20 p.m.

Hall of Fame coach Phil Jackson says he's concerned about Lamar Odom and his life after basketball.

"We thought the Kardashian arrangement, or marriage, was a terrific thing for him because it's a family, a structure, something that would give him support," Jackson said on "The Seth Davis Show," referring to Odom's marriage to Khloe Kardashian.

"Maybe it wasn't," he continued.

The first part of the interview ran on Oct. 28; the second is scheduled to go live Friday via the website CampusInsiders.com.

"Everybody that's been close to him in my group ... cannot get through to him," Jackson said. "No one can get through to Lamar, basically I think he's thrown his cellphone away."

Odom won two titles with the Lakers but was traded in 2011 to the Dallas Mavericks. After a year with the Clippers, the six-foot-10 forward remains a free agent.

Recently, he was arrested for a DUI charge.

"We're very concerned about him," Jackson said. "But I understand things are looking up ... so I'm really hopefully that will happen. Basketball has been his life and without it, it's a very destructive course."


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Lakers and Clips Would Consider Lamar

Postby Kobe8Fan on Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:14 am

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By Ramona Shelburne and Marc Stein | ESPN.com

The Los Angeles Clippers and Los Angeles Lakers continue to monitor Lamar Odom's progress as closely as they can, and would consider signing the enigmatic free-agent forward should Odom prove that his personal and legal issues are behind him, according to sources with knowledge of both teams' thinking.

Sources told ESPN.com that the Clippers and Lakers, with both teams having registered interest in signing Odom this past summer until his private life became a near-daily subject for the tabloid media, will have renewed interest in the 33-year-old if he indeed makes a comeback this season.

Odom recently has begun training again with an eye toward making a return to the floor during the second half of the season, sources have said.

Sources stressed, though, that neither the Clippers nor the Lakers have had recent contact with Odom beyond calls inquiring about his personal welfare.

Odom has a positive history with both the Clippers and Lakers that sources say keeps the door open for a return as long as he can convince those teams he can get back into basketball shape and is committed to resurrecting his NBA career after a worrying string of offseason headlines that included allegations of drug use and an August arrest on a DUI charge.

Of course, because of the nature of Odom's recent issues, sources say both teams would proceed "carefully" in evaluating the former NBA Sixth Man Award winner, who made it clear during a difficult season with the Dallas Mavericks in 2011-12 that he feels most comfortable playing in L.A.

The Clippers currently have 14 players on their roster. They are considering several options for that 15th roster spot, sources say, which is among the reasons -- along with luxury-tax concerns -- that they kept the spot open coming out of training camp.

The Lakers, meanwhile, would seem to have the most need and flexibility to sign Odom despite currently carrying the league maximum of 15 players. Their roster is filled with players on one-year deals in a bid to maintain maximum flexibility for a major retooling in the summer of 2014. Elias Harris, Xavier Henry, Ryan Kelly and Shawne Williams were signed by the Lakers to either partially guaranteed or fully unguaranteed minimum contracts.


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Re: Lamar Odom Discussion: NOT Checked Into Rehab (p. 35)

Postby Kobe8Fan on Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:18 am

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Re: Lamar Odom Discussion: NOT Checked Into Rehab (p. 35)

Postby Doc Brown on Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:53 am

I'd take him over how crappy Williams has played this season.
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Re: Lamar Odom Discussion: NOT Checked Into Rehab (p. 35)

Postby 432J on Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:24 am

i'm sure he can't be worse than williams or harris

bring him back with shannon just so we have even more players back from the back to back title teams
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Re: Lamar Odom Discussion: NOT Checked Into Rehab (p. 35)

Postby Rooscooter on Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:59 pm

Doc Brown wrote:I'd take him over how crappy Williams has played this season.


Whoa..... Odom is more done that Pau and Nash put together. Add in a habit and mental instability and you have the mix for an epic meltdown.

This is not the Lamar that used to play here.....
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