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Re: Lamar Odom Discussion: NOT Checked Into Rehab (p. 35)

Postby Basketball Fan on Mon Feb 17, 2014 6:49 pm

http://beta.thescore.com/nba/news/433954

According to ESPN's Marc Stein, free-agent forward Lamar Odom has agreed to play the rest of the season in Spain.

The aforementioned Spanish club is Laboral Kutxa Vitoria (or Saski Baskonia), who, unlike the Los Angeles Clippers, is willing to take a chance on the embattled two-time NBA champion whose struggled with personal issues since the conclusion of the 2012-13 season.

He averaged four points and nearly six rebounds in 82 games in his reunion season with the Clippers last year.
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Re: Lamar Odom Discussion: NOT Checked Into Rehab (p. 35)

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Re: Lamar Odom Discussion: NOT Checked Into Rehab (p. 35)

Postby Basketball Fan on Thu Feb 20, 2014 9:58 am

Take this with a grain of salt

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/ ... sol-trade/

On The Rebound? Lamar Odom Pulling For Pau Gasol Trade In Hopes Of Getting Garbage Time Look With Lakers
Posted on Feb 20, 2014 @ 6:55AM | By Radar Staff

With the Los Angeles Lakers‘ season in the toilet, and valuable cog Pau Gasol heavily rumored to be traded, RadarOnline.com has learned exclusively that Lamar Odom is hoping to take the forward’s place as a step toward revitalizing his stagnant career.

“Lamar is hoping that Pau Gasol because that would create an opening on the Lakers,” a source told Radar. “The team would need someone of Lamar’s height to replace Pau.”

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While the former Laker and Clipper has agreed to a pact with Spain’s Laboral Kutxa, the source said Odom, 34, “does have an out in his contract with the Spanish team he is playing for,” and “his agent has been in touch with the Lakers, letting the organization know he would be on the next plane back in order to join the team.”

Asked about his chances of being moved by Thursday’s NBA trading deadline, a weary Gasol shucked off the constant barrage of rumored trade destinations as fodder to “fill up a lot of pages and f**king airtime,” adding the chance of being dealt is “something that’s there, and there’s potential that it might happen.”


With the injured Kobe Bryant limited to just six games this season, the Lakers have limped to an awful 18-36 record.
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Re: Lamar Odom Discussion: NOT Checked Into Rehab (p. 35)

Postby halekulani on Fri Feb 21, 2014 4:08 pm

i hope he gets better
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Re: Lamar Odom Discussion: NOT Checked Into Rehab (p. 35)

Postby Rooscooter on Fri Feb 21, 2014 6:00 pm

Why come back? I hear the Crack is pretty good in Spain....

If your a fan of Odom you don't want anyone funding his habit... he need to hit the bottom to rise again. Addict 101
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Re: Lamar Odom Discussion: NOT Checked Into Rehab (p. 35)

Postby laakers on Thu Apr 17, 2014 12:47 am

Knicks sign Odom for remainder of season

NEW YORK (AP) -- The New York Knicks have signed former NBA champion Lamar Odom, who was out of the league this season.
The move gives new president Phil Jackson an offseason to look at the versatile forward who thrived in his system. Odom helped the Los Angeles Lakers win NBA titles in 2009 and 2010, and was the Sixth Man of the Year in 2011, Jackson's final season as coach.
But Odom has never captured that success again. He last played in the NBA with the Clippers in 2012-13, averaging 4.0 points in about 20 minutes per game, and appeared in two games for a team in Spain this season.


http://www.nba.com/2014/news/04/16/knicks-sign-lamar-odom/index.html

Good for him I guess? Only thing that's weird is... The Knicks signed him the day of their last game, he was listed on the NBA.com roster, and got an Inactive. Only thing is, their season ended today. Weird? Maybe Phil was locking him up for next season.. Either way, best hopes to him.
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Re: Lamar Odom Discussion: NOT Checked Into Rehab (p. 35)

Postby gcclaker on Thu Apr 17, 2014 8:21 am

Wouldn't surprise me if Jackson makes a play for Gasol.
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Re: Lamar Odom Discussion: NOT Checked Into Rehab (p. 35)

Postby therealdeal on Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:21 am

^ Me neither. Although I think the Lakers would rather keep Gasol if the cost is simply the mini-MLE. :man10: The Knicks will have a hard time getting to him.

As for Lamar I think this is about a) helping him get his life together and b) teaching the Knicks what to do in the Triangle/how to win. I wouldn't be surprised if Lamar spent the summer there but didn't make the team (or was just a minimum signing) next season.
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Re: Lamar Odom Discussion: NOT Checked Into Rehab (p. 35)

Postby Vasashi17 on Thu Apr 17, 2014 12:14 pm

Family looking out for family....take note Jimmy!

Happy for LO, but he's really got to prove himself. I got alot of confidence that Phil will bring NY back.
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Re: Lamar Odom Discussion: NOT Checked Into Rehab (p. 35)

Postby Rooscooter on Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:11 pm

^^The other way to look at that is that Phil is supporting Odom and his habit. Not really what should be done IMHO..... basketball aside. Trust me on this.... i've worked with a few addicts in my time.

As for NY coming back.... not with that roster. Carmelo and Stat are not Kobe and Shaq.....
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Re: Lamar Odom Discussion: NOT Checked Into Rehab (p. 35)

Postby Congo Cash on Fri Apr 18, 2014 6:43 am

This would be a nice move about 3 years ago...

Seriously, what's the point of this signing? JR Smith and Lamar Odom together is asking for a disaster...
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Re: Lamar Odom Discussion: NOT Checked Into Rehab (p. 35)

Postby Weezy on Fri Apr 18, 2014 5:56 pm

Great, all they need to do now is re-sign Ron Artest, sign Pau, sign and trade Melo for Kobe, and bring in Fisher as a player/assistant coach and they're set for a title run. :man11:
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Re: Lamar Odom Discussion: NOT Checked Into Rehab (p. 35)

Postby gcclaker on Fri Apr 18, 2014 5:57 pm

If Kerr won't take the coaching reins as rumored, Jackson can try to get Rambis. :man1:
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Re: Lamar Odom Discussion: NOT Checked Into Rehab (p. 35)

Postby John3:16 on Fri Apr 18, 2014 7:18 pm

I personally think Phil is doing this for Lamar the person moreso then Lamar the basketball player. Probably likes him a lot and wants to give him a chance. Then he can be the positive father figure Lamar desperately needs.

As for Lamar the basketball player... he's done.
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Re: Lamar Odom Discussion: NOT Checked Into Rehab (p. 35)

Postby Congo Cash on Sat Apr 19, 2014 4:29 pm

Weezy wrote:Great, all they need to do now is re-sign Ron Artest, sign Pau, sign and trade Melo for Kobe, and bring in Fisher as a player/assistant coach and they're set for a title run. :man11:

You forgot Luke Walton and Space Cadet... :man1:
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Re: Lamar Odom Discussion: NOT Checked Into Rehab (p. 35)

Postby 432J on Sun Apr 20, 2014 9:01 pm

Congo Cash wrote:
Weezy wrote:Great, all they need to do now is re-sign Ron Artest, sign Pau, sign and trade Melo for Kobe, and bring in Fisher as a player/assistant coach and they're set for a title run. :man11:

You forgot Luke Walton and Space Cadet... :man1:


add adam morrison and a title is all but guaranteed
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Re: Lamar Odom Discussion: NOT Checked Into Rehab (p. 35)

Postby LTLakerFan on Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:43 pm

Zen Master may have Odom's well being in mind, or maybe not so much. And maybe not so much for "basketball reasons" beyond tricky Jedi stuff he's needing in their CBA predicament.


The Knicks' signing of Lamar Odom is more than meets the eye
By Mark Deeks on Apr 18 2014, 1:49p

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2014/4/18/5 ... ade-rumors


Why did the New York Knicks sign Lamar Odom with one day left in the season? It's all about the value his contract represents in the trade market.

In this, the final week of the NBA regular season, the New York Knicks signed Lamar Odom to a contract running through the 2015 season.

An optimist's view would say that this is the first move of new team president Phil Jackson, who inevitably and understandably wants to stick with what he knows best and have his new team play the triangle offense. A point forward like Odom is integral to this ideology, and suitably difficult to come by to merit taking on Odom himself as a reclamation project.

Perhaps there is a bit of that involved here. Perhaps the Knicks really do see a chance for redemption with Odom, a possible contributor down the road in spite of the complete waste of his last three seasons (and, based on his brief Spanish stint, additional injury concerns). Odom really was good when he was good, and if there is a spark in the fire, the Knicks want to be the ones to throw a log on it. Yet realistically, the timing of the move is most representative of what is in play here.

Odom was signed right at the very end of this season, to a contract running through next season. If he was supposed to help this season, he would have signed earlier. If he was supposed to help next season, he would have signed later, unless the Knicks felt they had to secure him early so as to not be outbid on him, which seems unlikely.

Instead, then, Odom was signed at a time he could be of no use, so that he was ready to deploy at a time when he could be at his most useful -- the July free agency period.

By signing Odom to a contract running through the 2015 season, the Knicks are able to trade Odom from the end of the July moratorium. When they do so, they will be trading an unguaranteed $1,448,490 contract, a contract which can be used in salary matching deals and waived without reprisal by the recipient team.

This is a fairly common science, recently also employed by the New Orleans Pelicans in their signing of Melvin Ely, and recently not employed by the Cavaliers in their signing of Scotty Hopson. It creates a small but useful asset from a roster spot and a minimum salary, just as they had done previously with Shannon Brown (who has an unguaranteed deal for $1.31 million next year via the same mechanism).

The Knicks have benefited from this process before when they waived Bill (now Henry) Walker to sign Dan Gadzuric down the stretch of the 2011/12 season, a player who never got the opportunity to contribute significantly on the court but whose $1.352 million contract became a valuable centerpiece to that summer's Raymond Felton trade.

The Felton trade was unsuccessful, of course, yet the point remains that it could not likely have been done without Gadzuric's contract. His contract gave the Knicks an asset going into that summer, as will Odom's $1.44 million unguaranteed minimum salary deal. It is not a huge asset, but it is an asset nonetheless, something of which the Knicks will have scant few.

ODOM WAS SIGNED AT A TIME HE COULD BE OF NO USE, SO THAT HE WAS READY TO DEPLOY WHEN HE COULD BE AT HIS MOST USEFUL -- THE JULY FREE AGENCY PERIOD.

A well-documented penchant for giving away draft picks, particularly first round ones, is an easily cited and entirely correct reason for why the Knicks are short of assets. However, there is more to it than that. Mid-range contracts, just like first round picks, are fundamental to being able to complete trades, and the Knicks have almost none of them. They know the value of these well as they used a package of those things to land Carmelo Anthony and Andrea Bargnani, and now they have left themselves with barely any horses left in the stable. The only mid-range contracts they have belong to Felton and J.R. Smith - both run through 2016 and are attached to hard work players (not to be confused with hard working players). These are not desirable assets, and with a lack of first round picks to placate them, trade assets are few.

What they do have now, however, is a few outside chances of rustling up money. In addition to the combined $2.85 million unguaranteed of Odom and Brown, Kenyon Martin now has early Bird Rights with the team. This means he can potentially be used Keith Bogans-style in a sign-and-trade deal to a contract starting at 104.5 percent of the average salary in the previous season, or about $5.5 million. Assuming he is not signed before then, Kenyon will surely be complicit in that.

A big drawback here, though, is that any such sign-and-trade must see the Knicks finish below the so-called 'apron'. And with their payroll being as high as it is, this will be hard to do. Furthermore, if they team did do a sign and trade, the apron (expected to be about $77 million or so) would then be a hard cap for the remainder of the season, a non-negotiable limit on payroll expenditure of any kind. New York are so far above the apron that it is almost impossible to imagine them getting under it without losing Carmelo Anthony in free agency. Even if they did get under it, it would not by enough to enjoy the full benefits of doing so, as both usage of the sign-and-trade and non-taxpayer mid-level exceptions would create this hard cap.

The new CBA deliberately and effectively has restricted the ability to spend of those it deemed have already spent enough. The Knicks will likely have no cap room, no Bi-Annual Exception, no ability to sign a smaller mid-level exception starting at $3.278 million for only up to three years, and the requirement that incoming salary in trades is limited to a maximum of 125 percent plus $100,000 of the outgoing, and not the more liberal limits enjoyed by non-taxpayers. With over $92 million committed to 12 players already, luxury tax seems like a certainty, and thus so do these restrictions. And those restrictions grossly inhibit the team's ability to improve.
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Re: Lamar Odom Discussion: NOT Checked Into Rehab (p. 35)

Postby CaCHooKa Man on Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:21 pm

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The Knicks announce they have waived Lamar Odom.

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Phil Jackson: "Unfortunately, Lamar was unable to uphold the standards to return as an NBA player."
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Re: Lamar Odom Discussion: NOT Checked Into Rehab (p. 35)

Postby LTLakerFan on Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:44 pm

Put a fork in him. Now just have to hope it doesn't "end badly". Sounds like from Phil, Lamar couldn't kick his habits.
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Re: Lamar Odom Discussion: NOT Checked Into Rehab (p. 35)

Postby John3:16 on Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:45 pm

Sad. Crack is wack.

Hoping nothing but the best for Odom, but expect the worst.
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Re: Lamar Odom Discussion: NOT Checked Into Rehab (p. 35)

Postby gcclaker on Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:54 pm

If Odom can't get it together even under Jackson's act of compassion for another chance, yep, then his career is finito.
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Re: Lamar Odom Discussion: NOT Checked Into Rehab (p. 35)

Postby CaCHooKa Man on Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:55 pm

Phil was his last chance. Unfortunate that he wasn't able to save him.
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Re: Lamar Odom Discussion: Waived, not up to NBA standard (38)

Postby Kobe Bryant 8 on Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:47 pm

I hate hearing this. Lamar is one of my favorite Lakers of all time. Loved his will to win during the title run. He was just so fun to watch at times.
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Re: Lamar Odom Discussion: Waived, not up to NBA standard (38)

Postby therealdeal on Fri Jul 11, 2014 7:49 pm

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Re: Lamar Odom Discussion: Waived, not up to NBA standard (38)

Postby Rooscooter on Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:13 pm

The salvation of users is only after the hard landing....... if they survive it. Here's to hoping he has a soft landing and accepts the help he needs. What he most definitely does not need is a slot in the NBA.... money is the lubrication for users....
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