LeBron Trying To Add The Sky Hook To His Game

LeBron Trying To Add The Sky Hook To His Game

Postby Kobe8Fan on Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:05 am



LeBron James has been working on adding a jump hook to his offensive repertoire during the offseason.

James was spotted on Tuesday working on the shot with both hands after the Miami Heat concluded their practice.

The Heat have more options on the wing than in the paint, which will likely mean James will continue to increase his usage around the basket.


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The Sky Hook is a lost art. Kobe should add it to his game. The Sky Hook is a Laker tradition!
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Re: LeBron Trying To Add The Sky Hook To His Game

Postby therealdeal on Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:21 am

Obviously that's just practice and he's not really elevating, just looking for a touch, but... the Sky Hook worked for Kareem because he was 7'2" and he had a long reach. Centers couldn't get to the ball when he released it and with the arc he put on it... it was unguardable.

LeBron has many physical advantages, but height isn't one of them. If he tries that against any team with a mobile shot blocker, he's going to get that sent into the 18th row. I'm thinking specficially OKC and Ibaka, Denver and McGee, LA and Dwight, Clippers and Jordan.

I commend him for wanting to develop a post game, but he needs to work more on mid-range post stuff like Kobe/Jordan. Next to the basket his 6'8" frame needs up and unders and multiple moves, because he usually won't be able to score over the top against help defense.
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Re: LeBron Trying To Add The Sky Hook To His Game

Postby Rooscooter on Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:43 am

^^To be honest..... LeBron can score almost at will with his size and athleticism..... Good to see a top player working on getting better.

That hook is pretty ugly and isn't ready for prime time yet..... developing a post game is good but he's the most dangerous player in the league with the ball in his hands on the perimeter. His efficiency at either scoring or assisting is extremely good. If Miami really wants him to be a post up player thats actually good for the rest of the league IMHO.....
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Re: LeBron Trying To Add The Sky Hook To His Game

Postby gcclaker on Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:54 am

Johnson took a cue from Abdul-Jabbar and nicked the shot to add to his game. Sure, it looked stiff and ungainly but it was effective to some degree. James looks like he's just tossing them up there. Game wise, it will be tough with players just about his size bumping him to try disrupt his balance when he tries to unleash that shot. Props to him though adding something.
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Re: LeBron Trying To Add The Sky Hook To His Game

Postby therealdeal on Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:36 am

Rooscooter wrote:^^To be honest..... LeBron can score almost at will with his size and athleticism..... Good to see a top player working on getting better.

Not with that hook though. He can score at will on the perimeter with his unique combination of size, strength, and explosiveness.

But inside? That's not where he belongs. You said the same thing... right? :man10:
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Re: LeBron Trying To Add The Sky Hook To His Game

Postby Juronimo on Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:16 pm

gcclaker wrote:Johnson took a cue from Abdul-Jabbar and nicked the shot to add to his game. Sure, it looked stiff and ungainly but it was effective to some degree. James looks like he's just tossing them up there. Game wise, it will be tough with players just about his size bumping him to try disrupt his balance when he tries to unleash that shot. Props to him though adding something.


It was effective for Magic and if Lebron can master it it will be effective for him as well. Lebron won't be able to bully his way into the paint forever. If Lebron adds a hook to his arsenal he'll be able to extend his career.
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Re: LeBron Trying To Add The Sky Hook To His Game

Postby Weezy on Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:25 pm

I've seen clips of him trying this in games this preseason on tv, it's a hook shot, but it's not a skyhook, there's a difference.
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Re: LeBron Trying To Add The Sky Hook To His Game

Postby thkthebest on Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:23 pm

I doubt we'll see this too much. Even when players develop new moves, but they revert back to old habits. LeBron should just work on perfecting his own hook shot:

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Re: LeBron Trying To Add The Sky Hook To His Game

Postby karacha on Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:21 pm

Athletic shot-blocking PFs and Cs are going to swat that. Does he really need to work on his skyhook? :man3:

It looks pretty useless to me, and it's not even a real skyhook. I think Bron does OK with the tools he has right now. That move he's working on looks like something Pau would use. You know.. a 7-1 guy with a 7-5 wingspan.
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Re: LeBron Trying To Add The Sky Hook To His Game

Postby Juronimo on Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:15 pm

karacha wrote:Athletic shot-blocking PFs and Cs are going to swat that. Does he really need to work on his skyhook? :man3:

It looks pretty useless to me, and it's not even a real skyhook. I think Bron does OK with the tools he has right now. That move he's working on looks like something Pau would use. You know.. a 7-1 guy with a 7-5 wingspan.


Magic used it quite a bit towards the end of his career and they're both the same size. Why wouldn't it be effective for Lebron if it was effective for Magic?
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Re: LeBron Trying To Add The Sky Hook To His Game

Postby therealdeal on Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:25 pm

Because Magic wasn't playing PF and the level of athleticism has risen quite a bit since Magic's days.
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Re: LeBron Trying To Add The Sky Hook To His Game

Postby revgen on Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:30 pm

While it looks like crap right now, it's good to see LeBron working on it while he still has his hops and speed.

You don't want to end up like Wade and working on your fundamentals just when you lose your athleticism.
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Re: LeBron Trying To Add The Sky Hook To His Game

Postby dj vitus on Fri Oct 19, 2012 10:27 am

Just come to the Lakers and Kareem will teach ya. :man1:
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Re: LeBron Trying To Add The Sky Hook To His Game

Postby purp n gold on Fri Oct 19, 2012 5:32 pm

He's a couple years away from using this as a reliable scoring move, but I can see him adding it. The running hooks will help when he drives... But if he can consistently score out of the post, that would be devastating.
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Re: LeBron Trying To Add The Sky Hook To His Game

Postby V.V.V.V.V. on Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:57 pm

Rooscooter wrote:^^To be honest..... LeBron can score almost at will with his size and athleticism..... Good to see a top player working on getting better.

That hook is pretty ugly and isn't ready for prime time yet..... developing a post game is good but he's the most dangerous player in the league with the ball in his hands on the perimeter. His efficiency at either scoring or assisting is extremely good. If Miami really wants him to be a post up player thats actually good for the rest of the league IMHO.....


This.

LeBron is probably the most dangerous player at the top of the key. More power to the other teams if he wants to put his ugly post game on the block. He won't always be guarded by Harden, so I don't see him having consistent success down low.
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Re: LeBron Trying To Add The Sky Hook To His Game

Postby Snake Eyes on Sun Oct 21, 2012 3:11 pm

If he keeps practicing it, I am all for it. I'd love to see a player bring the skyhook back. I agree with some of the sentiment here that it may not be as successful for LeBron because he isn't 7'2'' but it would be neat to see him bring it out. Remember that Dwight tried to nail a skyhook over Bynum in the last All-Star game ... Bynum blocked it. Dwight is taller than LeBron, but I guess LeBron could use it when guarded in a one-on-one mismatch. It would be good for a highlight now and then.
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Postby Phil XI on Sun Oct 21, 2012 8:36 pm

dj vitus wrote:Just come to the Lakers and Kareem will teach ya. :man1:

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Re: LeBron Trying To Add The Sky Hook To His Game

Postby wcsoldier81 on Mon Oct 22, 2012 1:36 am

Sure it isn't pretty ( as the rest of his game) but Lebron spent a good amount of time in the post last season and was one of the most effective player in the league in this area ... outside Metta , no SF is strong enough to handle him down low and when the double team is coming , his great passing is doing serious damages... and the Heat is loaded with 3 pt shooters ...
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Re: LeBron Trying To Add The Sky Hook To His Game

Postby therealdeal on Mon Oct 22, 2012 10:46 am

LeBron would be far more suited to Dwight Howard's version of the hook shot than the Sky Hook. He uses his strength and bullies guys across the lane, then uses his jump to get over the top.
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Re: LeBron Trying To Add The Sky Hook To His Game

Postby Forklift on Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:58 am

Are you guys kidding me? if he releases fast enough and in a certain range away from them i'm pretty sure he can pull it off. It's the same concept as when Tony Parker pulls off his Floater over people like Dwight. He is able to do it because he has enough space and he releases it quick. If Lebron can create enough space in the post and releases fast enough. Anyone as a defender will have a hard time blocking it. Also btw it is extremely hard to block a skyhook even if the defender is quicker and taller. The only way to actually block it is, is from the side or from behind them. My basketball friends do it all the time when they are goofing off and trying to block that crap is sooo difficult only thing is if you can make it in a consistent basis.
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Re: LeBron Trying To Add The Sky Hook To His Game

Postby therealdeal on Mon Oct 22, 2012 12:52 pm

^ The whole point is that he plays SF/PF and WE have a shot blocking big man that will come from the side. And if he tries to release that in the Kareem-type post area (8-12 feet), there's plenty of room for Howard to swat that crap.

If he's closer, there's no need. If he's farther that's a low percentage shot. So I'm thinking that shot is a waste of time vs. OKC and LA.
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Re: LeBron Trying To Add The Sky Hook To His Game

Postby Forklift on Mon Oct 22, 2012 1:56 pm

therealdeal wrote:^ The whole point is that he plays SF/PF and WE have a shot blocking big man that will come from the side. And if he tries to release that in the Kareem-type post area (8-12 feet), there's plenty of room for Howard to swat that crap.

If he's closer, there's no need. If he's farther that's a low percentage shot. So I'm thinking that shot is a waste of time vs. OKC and LA.


The same can be said for Kobe working on his post someone can sneak up on Kobe while he is posting up and swat him from the side or behind during those days when he was posting, but they didn't because Kobe had good court awareness and had good positioning. I mean don't get me wrong i dislike Lebron with a fury and i'm also not saying that Lebron knows how to get as good of a positioning as Kobe, but him developing a Skyhook would be good for him and it's not like he is going to just do it every possession.
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Re: LeBron Trying To Add The Sky Hook To His Game

Postby therealdeal on Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:35 pm

Development is great if it's in the right area. I'm not knocking LeBron working on his game, that's great. Just like Bynum working on his threes is great. But neither of those things are particularly practical to a game.

Kobe is incomparable to anyone in the game in the post. His footwork is impeccable and his positioning is masterful. That's a fairly poor comparison. Besides, Kobe isn't using a hook shot from 12-16 feet. He's using a fading jumpshot that he copied from Jordan. That shot would be very beneficial to James because of his size and athleticism. "Sky Hook"? Probably not as much.
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Re: LeBron Trying To Add The Sky Hook To His Game

Postby Forklift on Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:21 am

therealdeal wrote:Development is great if it's in the right area. I'm not knocking LeBron working on his game, that's great. Just like Bynum working on his threes is great. But neither of those things are particularly practical to a game.


well i can understand it like that. I mean yes Lebron more of a point foward, and him down in the post doing skyhooks wouldn't be using him to the best of his abilities, just like how Bynum trying to knock down 3s. I think the main point that i wanted to point out, but kinda got carried away in the topic was that the Skyhook is one of the most if not "THEE" most unguardable shot if your accurate and consistent i mean the only thing i can see where the skyhook would be stopped is if the player was doubled teamed and even at that if you have good footwork you can get your self in a position to score.
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Re: LeBron Trying To Add The Sky Hook To His Game

Postby therealdeal on Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:45 am

Well Dwight hinted at this, but part of what made Kareem's Sky Hook so unblockable was his height. His height, plus an arc, gave that shot about a 12 foot maximum height and that's hard for anyone to get to. LeBron's wouldn't likely be that high just because he's not that tall.
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