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Re: Jeremy Lin agrees to 4 year deal with Rockets

Postby Rooscooter on Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:40 pm

Ras Algethi wrote:I think Houston will be a better fit for Lin's game anyways. He doesn't excel playing with a ball stopper like Carmelo.


Melo isn't the only ball stopper on that team...... :man10: It's a combination of chuckers and ball stoppers....
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Re: Jeremy Lin agrees to 4 year deal with Rockets

Postby JSM on Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:31 pm

Not sure who he's going to create for in Houston. The only offense they have is Kevin Martin.
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Re: Jeremy Lin agrees to 4 year deal with Rockets

Postby eltoro on Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:03 pm

Wow! Carmelo and JR Smith taking some potshots on Lin. Carmelo basically said that Lin isn't good enough for the contract money that Houston is offering. JR said basically that there are other guys in the league that should be making as much as Lin, also insinuating that Lin isn't good enough for the money. JR apparently has been exchanging texts with Carmelo and Amare and said that the NYC organization has moved on from Linsanity.
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Re: Jeremy Lin agrees to 4 year deal with Rockets

Postby 432J on Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:54 pm

eltoro wrote:Wow! Carmelo and JR Smith taking some potshots on Lin. Carmelo basically said that Lin isn't good enough for the contract money that Houston is offering. JR said basically that there are other guys in the league that should be making as much as Lin, also insinuating that Lin isn't good enough for the money. JR apparently has been exchanging texts with Carmelo and Amare and said that the NYC organization has moved on from Linsanity.

well they're pretty much correct. unless lin averages 20 ppg and 8 assists per game, which i highly doubt he will. props to their honesty
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Re: Jeremy Lin agrees to 4 year deal with Rockets

Postby lakefansac on Sun Jul 15, 2012 11:30 pm

^^^^^^
Love the double standard underlying racism involved. Overplayed Black guy (its ok), overpaid Asian guy (not ok). I get it. Amare didn't even average 20 this season and is overpaid but how easily Carmelo and JR Smith forget that.
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Re: Jeremy Lin agrees to 4 year deal with Rockets

Postby Frank Dux on Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:29 am

I can't believe people are actually giving props to Melo and J.R. for their idiotic comments. Melo is on a max contract alongside STAT... Yeah, the fat turds who were supposed lead NY to the promised land are making max money while exiting out of the first round like it's going out of style. We all knew Melo wasn't going to coexist with Lin. Melo is a ball stopper, nothing more, nothing less. The sooner Lin's pick and roll play is out of the way so Melo can get back to his iso chucking way the better in his mind.

And J.R. should just shut his trap. What a doofus. he should be ashamed to even be walking around right now. He's lucky he's even collecting an NBA paycheck right now. Remember J.R. who spent time in jail on reckless driving charges for killing a dude in a car accident. J.R. is a bonafide cancer, a waste of potential, and has the worst shot selection in the league. I don't hate many players, but J.R. is one of them, and it would sicken me if he ever wore purple and gold.

I think there's definitely some racism towards Lin from Melo and J.R. Why do Melo and J.R. even care? signing Lin isn't going to cripple the franchise, as it's only a 3 year deal and they're already over the cap anyways. Why aren't they whining about STAT's contract? Amare has one of the worst deals in the league.

NY doesn't deserve Lin. He's a class act, a leader, and a hardworker. It is yet to be seen if he will translate into a star or not, but we just have to wait and see. I hope NY passes on him and that he blows up in Houston though.
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Re: Jeremy Lin agrees to 4 year deal with Rockets

Postby Congo Cash on Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:00 am

Wow, Melo complaining that someone is overpaid, this is pure comedy... This guy has yet to show up in any PO series...
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Re: Jeremy Lin agrees to 4 year deal with Rockets

Postby eltoro on Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:32 am

Congo Cash wrote:Wow, Melo complaining that someone is overpaid, this is pure comedy... This guy has yet to show up in any PO series...



Ditto that. Every player knows not to comment on another player's contract. Especially Melo. He should know better. He has done nothing for any franchise to justify his own super big contract. Melo has a super big ego to go along with that super big contract.

I agree there is some underlying disrespect from Melo and JR Smith towards Lin. Melo admitted texting Amare in the media saying how excited they were to be getting Felton too, but clearly Melo is telling everybody that Lin isn't as good as the Rockets think he is.
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Re: Lin

Postby JUST-MING on Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:22 am

kenzo wrote:Dude was great for the Knicks marketing wise. Asians were crazy about him, media loved him... but i still think he's overrated.

He dropped 40 points last year against Bryant, Artest, and two 7-foot centers.
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Re: Lin

Postby Scnottaken on Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:59 am

JUST-MING wrote:
kenzo wrote:Dude was great for the Knicks marketing wise. Asians were crazy about him, media loved him... but i still think he's overrated.

He dropped 40 points last year against Bryant, Artest, and two 7-foot centers.

That was before the league caught on to him, and our team was in a sort of free fall at the time as well iirc. When the league adjusted, he became a bit of a turnover machine.
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Re: Lin

Postby eltoro on Mon Jul 16, 2012 4:24 am

Scnottaken wrote:
JUST-MING wrote:
kenzo wrote:Dude was great for the Knicks marketing wise. Asians were crazy about him, media loved him... but i still think he's overrated.

He dropped 40 points last year against Bryant, Artest, and two 7-foot centers.

That was before the league caught on to him, and our team was in a sort of free fall at the time as well iirc. When the league adjusted, he became a bit of a turnover machine.



This is true to a certain extent and even before his drop off, he still turned over the ball some, but it was negated by his high assists. I think his drop off was more related to the return of Carmelo from injury than anything else. Carmelo is a post, isolation, type of player. He sorta stops any ball movement type of offense.
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Re: Jeremy Lin agrees to 4 year deal with Rockets

Postby Snake Eyes on Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:01 am

I couldn't sleep this morning so I decided to get caught up on this story. the Knicks are pretty stupid to let Lin walk. He carried that team for a portion of the season and got NBA fans to tune in just to see what he can do. They really have disrespected Lin and the comments from Melo and Smith are definitely suspect. They.are making a lot of money and shouldn't be talking crap. I guess the one positive that comes it of this is that Lin gets to go to Houston which is where he wanted to play ball and he will get paid. Best of luck to him and I hope he torches the Knicks when they play each other.
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Re: Lin

Postby kenzo on Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:20 am

JUST-MING wrote:
kenzo wrote:Dude was great for the Knicks marketing wise. Asians were crazy about him, media loved him... but i still think he's overrated.

He dropped 40 points last year against Bryant, Artest, and two 7-foot centers.

And...? You know a guy named Tony Delk? He had b2b 50 point games for Phoenix. Doesn't change the fact, that he was a scrub :man9:
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Re: Jeremy Lin agrees to 4 year deal with Rockets

Postby Juronimo on Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:27 am

I don't understand the Knicks on this one. They will have Raymond Felton, who hasn't looked good in a couple of seasons, and Kidd, who is done.

I think Lin proved himself in NY, he brought a buzz to that team. I'm not understanding NY's thought process here.
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Re: Jeremy Lin agrees to 4 year deal with Rockets

Postby eltoro on Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:14 am

Juronimo wrote:I don't understand the Knicks on this one. They will have Raymond Felton, who hasn't looked good in a couple of seasons, and Kidd, who is done.

I think Lin proved himself in NY, he brought a buzz to that team. I'm not understanding NY's thought process here.



It's rumored on Knicks boards that Amare and Carmelo pushed for Felton to be in NYC. Alot of Knick fans are angry about this and there is a growing dissatisfaction of Knick fans who are becoming discontent with Melo's penchant for isolation-heavy post offense.

Some are saying that Melo and Amare have even texted one another saying how excited they are that Felton will be there. Seems like they might have told JR Smith too. JR let the cat outta the bag in a recent interview in which he stated that the Knicks management decided to go in a different direction from Linsanity, even though the Kinicks deadline for matching Houston's offer isn't until tomorrow.
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Re: Jeremy Lin agrees to 4 year deal with Rockets

Postby Snake Eyes on Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:03 am

Juronimo wrote:I don't understand the Knicks on this one. They will have Raymond Felton, who hasn't looked good in a couple of seasons, and Kidd, who is done.

I think Lin proved himself in NY, he brought a buzz to that team. I'm not understanding NY's thought process here.


Not only that but Lin has to be one of the better point guards that they have had in a while. I mean, they had Marbury but he didn't have much surrounding talent and he was more of a scorer IIRC.
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Re: Jeremy Lin agrees to 4 year deal with Rockets

Postby therealdeal on Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:36 am

Snake Eyes wrote:
Juronimo wrote:I don't understand the Knicks on this one. They will have Raymond Felton, who hasn't looked good in a couple of seasons, and Kidd, who is done.

I think Lin proved himself in NY, he brought a buzz to that team. I'm not understanding NY's thought process here.


Not only that but Lin has to be one of the better point guards that they have had in a while. I mean, they had Marbury but he didn't have much surrounding talent and he was more of a scorer IIRC.

It's all about the Benjamins. With Lin's contract this season they'd have 70+ million tied to 4 players. With the tax threshold at 72 or so that's already paying taxes. Add on the rest of the roster and the punitive tax hits next season and they were probably uncomfortable moving forward with that roster.

I still think there's a chance they match if they think Lin's marketability is great enough to offset those taxes AND make a profit. I would guess their guys are crunching the numbers now. However with the acquisition of Felton things are definitely looking like they will not bring him back.
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Re: Jeremy Lin agrees to 4 year deal with Rockets

Postby eltoro on Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:55 pm

Yeah, Carmelo and Amare don't want Lin back. They wanna roll with Felton.
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Re: Jeremy Lin agrees to 4 year deal with Rockets

Postby Doc Brown on Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:26 pm

I read on twitter that New York only gets a very small amount from Lin's marketing. I don't know where that money goes, but one of the Knicks beat writers was going on a tangent about how if Lin brought in 30 million, Knicks would only get 1 million of that or so.
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Re: Jeremy Lin agrees to 4 year deal with Rockets

Postby eltoro on Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:25 pm

Doc Brown wrote:I read on twitter that New York only gets a very small amount from Lin's marketing. I don't know where that money goes, but one of the Knicks beat writers was going on a tangent about how if Lin brought in 30 million, Knicks would only get 1 million of that or so.



Twitter again, huh?
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Re: Jeremy Lin agrees to 4 year deal with Rockets

Postby Doc Brown on Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:55 pm

eltoro wrote:
Doc Brown wrote:I read on twitter that New York only gets a very small amount from Lin's marketing. I don't know where that money goes, but one of the Knicks beat writers was going on a tangent about how if Lin brought in 30 million, Knicks would only get 1 million of that or so.



Twitter again, huh?


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Jeremy Lin's value in terms of marketability is really high, but in reality NYK only see a very small piece of that pie. Paying the tax with money you don't have, very unlikely. Lin to Houston.
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Re: Rockets would offer 8M to Jeremy Lin

Postby JGC on Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:16 pm

eltoro wrote:
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eltoro wrote:Dude. Lin is American. He looks like he might be Chinese, but he isn't.



Dude, how old are you? He's Taiwanese-American. He speaks Chinese.....his parents speak Chinese....



See. This just proves my lint. Lin isn't even Chinese. He is American. His parent aren't Chinese either. I think they are American also,born in Taiwan. And Taiwan is a totally different country than China.


:bang:

Jeremy Lin's parents are dual citizens.

And last I heard Taiwan isn't even a country. It is a territory of China.

And WTH does proving your lint mean?
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Re: Rockets would offer 8M to Jeremy Lin

Postby eltoro on Mon Jul 16, 2012 4:45 pm

JGC wrote:
eltoro wrote:
FabFourLakers wrote:
eltoro wrote:Dude. Lin is American. He looks like he might be Chinese, but he isn't.



Dude, how old are you? He's Taiwanese-American. He speaks Chinese.....his parents speak Chinese....



See. This just proves my lint. Lin isn't even Chinese. He is American. His parent aren't Chinese either. I think they are American also,born in Taiwan. And Taiwan is a totally different country than China.


:bang:

Jeremy Lin's parents are dual citizens.

And last I heard Taiwan isn't even a country. It is a territory of China.

And WTH does proving your lint mean?




Uh hello?! Taiwan is a country. If it was part of China, then they would call it China, not Taiwan. Who cares anyway? Lin was born in the USA, so that makes him American.
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Re: Rockets would offer 8M to Jeremy Lin

Postby GoldHammish on Mon Jul 16, 2012 5:12 pm

eltoro wrote:Uh hello?! Taiwan is a country. If it was part of China, then they would call it China, not Taiwan. Who cares anyway? Lin was born in the USA, so that makes him American.

You gotta be kidding.
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Re: Lin

Postby LakerBoyz24 on Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:00 pm

Scnottaken wrote:
JUST-MING wrote:
kenzo wrote:Dude was great for the Knicks marketing wise. Asians were crazy about him, media loved him... but i still think he's overrated.

He dropped 40 points last year against Bryant, Artest, and two 7-foot centers.

That was before the league caught on to him, and our team was in a sort of free fall at the time as well iirc. When the league adjusted, he became a bit of a turnover machine.


What. Are. You. Talking. About. Dude.

Why do so many people talk out of their [Swearing is not permitted at Clublakers. You must edit this post prior to submitting.]? That's why I dislike discussing on basketball forums because half the people never watched the game and go by general consensus. He was a turnover machine DURING HIS RUN, he actually stabilized and decreased his TO from 7-8 TO per game during his run(where he dropped 40 on the Lakers), to a mere 3-4 a game after his run. If you bother to check the stats, the games after his run, he avged less TO than Deron Williams, who actually has one of the worst assist/TO ratio in the game(he avgs 5 TO a game I remember).

So according to you, going from 7-8 TO a game during his run---> 3-4 TO a game= the league adjusted and he became a turnover machine. Please do not ever discuss basketball again.

I watched every game because I was high on Lin, and I still am. People keep doubting him, and it won't surprise me that he keeps proving people wrong. As a first/second option in Houston, Lin can probably avg all star numbers imo. Houston is also trying to acquire DH12, and if Houston gets Lin, Houston suddenly becomes attractive to DH12 because of the insane amount of exposure/coverage, sponsors, and endorsements Dwight and Lin will get, especially if they do good together. Basically Houston is going for all or nothing with this gamble, it's not just for his b-ball skills they got Lin(although the Rockets GM Morey is VERY high on Lin), but it's also to coax DH12 and other potential FA's to eventually make Rockets into a contender. If they pull this off, they basically went 8th-10th seed team spending lots of money going nowhere to a eventual contender core, especially with their young talent.
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