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Michael Jordan "Flu Game" was really food poisoning former t

Postby Basketball Fan on Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:04 am

http://espn.go.com/chicago/nba/story/_/ ... ainer-says

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Tim Grover, Michael Jordan's groundbreaking personal trainer and confidant, has a new book "Relentless," where he shares new tales of a life close to His Airness.

Michael Jordan's former personal trainer, Tim Grover, said it was food poisoning, not the flu, that affected the former Chicago Bulls star during Game 5 of the 1997 NBA Finals, which has come to be known as "The Flu Game."



It's considered one of the greatest games of Jordan's career and in NBA Finals history, as he scored 38 points to help lead the Bulls to a 90-88 victory against the Jazz in Utah, despite battling a physical ailment that made him visibly weak. The Bulls went on to clinch their fifth title in Game 6.

"Yes, 100 percent poisoned for ('The Flu Game')," Grover said on TrueHoop TV. "Everyone called it a 'Flu Game,' but we sat there and we were in the room, we were in Park City, Utah, up in a hotel. Room service stopped at like 9 o'clock. And he got hungry, and we really couldn't find any other place to eat so we ordered ... I said, 'Hey, the only thing I could find is a pizza place.' He said, 'All right, order pizza.' We had been there for a while, so everybody knows what hotel ... I mean Park City (didn't have) many hotels back then. Everybody kind of knew where we were staying.

"So we order a pizza, they come to deliver it, five guys come to deliver this pizza. And I'm just ... I take the pizza, and I tell them, I said, 'I got a bad feeling about this.' I said, 'I just got a bad feeling about this.' Out of everybody in the room, he was the only one that ate. Nobody else ... then 2 o'clock in the morning, I get a call to my room. I come to the room, he's curled up, he's curled up in the fetal position. We're looking at him. We're finding the team physician at that time. And immediately I said, 'It's food poisoning.' Guaranteed. Not the flu."

It's not the first time the idea of food poisoning has surfaced.

"(Former Bulls guard Ron) Harper always said that it was bad pizza," Phil Jackson said in an interview with ESPN Los Angeles in February 2012. "You know, Ronnie Harper always thought it was a bad food type of thing."

Whatever the cause, the effect was clear as it appeared Jordan was so weak at one point that he seemed to collapse into the arms of Scottie Pippen.

"Scottie was all about, 'We'll take care of the defense. Don't expend yourself. Save yourself for the other end of the floor where you can score. We know you can finish this game off and I'll help you out part-time and hedge off my man.' " Jackson explained. "And Scottie set him up by drawing the double team and getting the ball back to Michael (on offense). But, it looks like Michael, basically, collapses in Scottie's arms more than anything else. Not only does Scottie give him a hug, but it looks like he also was leaning on him for some support."

Jackson said he wasn't sure how much Jordan was going to be able to play.

"Well, his eyes weren't cleared," Jackson said. "They were kind of clouded, watering and so on and so forth. So, his demeanor was such that you had to speculate how much he could play and how well he could play."

Jordan ranks the game as among his most difficult.

"That was probably the most difficult thing I've ever done," Jordan said, according to NBA.com. "I almost played myself into passing out just to win a basketball game. If we had lost, I would have been devastated."
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Postby khmrP on Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:59 am

this is just like Kobe food poisoning after gm 1 against Sac in the WCF. Sac fans always cry about the "fix" but the lakers DOMINATED gm 1 with Kobe leading the way and surprise surprise gets food poisoning for gm 2 and it becomes a struggle after that.
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Postby Iceberg Slim on Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:33 am

^Ummm...no.

This is nothing like that. And Jordan's "Flu Game" compares to nothing I've seen from a basketball player/athlete in terms of injury or sickness. Besides Brett Favre's MNF game after his father died a day or two prior, Jordan's Flu Game is the gustiest performance I've ever seen.

I remember them reporting it was food poisoning before the start of the game and that his body temp was well over 100. Food poisoning or flu, Jordan was handicapped. We all knew how mentally tough MJ was prior to this game, but this was something new. We've never seen him violently sick, especially in the Finals. It was a game I still get chills over when I see clips of it.
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Postby khmrP on Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:45 am

Iceberg Slim wrote:^Ummm...no.

This is nothing like that. And Jordan's "Flu Game" compares to nothing I've seen from a basketball player/athlete in terms of injury or sickness. Besides Brett Favre's MNF game after his father died a day or two prior, Jordan's Flu Game is the gustiest performance I've ever seen.

I remember them reporting it was food poisoning before the start of the game and that his body temp was well over 100. Food poisoning or flu, Jordan was handicapped. We all knew how mentally tough MJ was prior to this game, but this was something new. We've never seen him violently sick, especially in the Finals. It was a game I still get chills over when I see clips of it.


dude I'm not talking about performance I'm just referring to the host city purposely F'ing up opposing teams star players.
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Postby Weezy on Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:53 pm

If it was food poisoning that's incredible. The flu is bad, but food poisoning is another level. I've played basketball at the park all medicated with a bad cold, but I couldn't even stand up to shoot alone on my driveway hoop when I had food poisoning, and we're talking about playing a pro game at the highest level, in the Finals, that's insane. In fact I went to the park to play pickup ball a couple days after I had food poisoning the 2nd time and I couldn't finish the first game, my stomach was still too raw and torn up.
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Postby V.V.V.V.V. on Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:28 pm

I haven't had food poisoning since I was a kid, eating questionable things out of the fridge.

Man, where do you guys go to get food poisoning? I don't get it. (Knock on wood)
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Postby pound4pound1 on Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:01 pm

it's Utah...i'm not surprised at all
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Postby 432J on Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:05 pm

jordan's performance in the NBA finals while ill is still IMO one of the greatest single game performances in NBA history

to go out there and score 38 in the NBA FINALS while sick and suffering from a high temperature is just jaw dropping. the body loses water super quick when it's fighting off a virus, just imagine playing in an NBA game in that condition, especially in the finals where the competition is faster than ever. just amazing
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Postby Weezy on Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:51 am

V.V.V.V.V. wrote:I haven't had food poisoning since I was a kid, eating questionable things out of the fridge.

Man, where do you guys go to get food poisoning? I don't get it. (Knock on wood)


All it takes is somebody going to the bathroom and not washing their hands and preparing your food at a restaurant, or improperly cooked meat or seafood. In my case I believe it came from meat I ate at a BBQ at the grocery store my mom worked for years ago, hit me very shortly after eating, super sudden. All I ate was potato salad and carne asada, so it was either the meat or bad mayonnaise or something, I was sick for days, couldn't eat a thing. First night was one of the worst of my life, throwing up like every 15 mins all night, that's why I'm amazed Jordan played this game with it, it's the worst feeling ever.
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Postby Maluco Beleza on Fri Apr 19, 2013 4:49 am

some people seriously make mj out to be god almighty himself
the way they describe how amazing this performance was :freak2:
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Postby nameant on Fri Apr 19, 2013 6:06 am

Maluco Beleza wrote:some people seriously make mj out to be god almighty himself
the way they describe how amazing this performance was :freak2:


u mad
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Postby Maluco Beleza on Fri Apr 19, 2013 6:18 am

bow down to god jordan
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Postby abeer3 on Fri Apr 19, 2013 6:11 pm

V.V.V.V.V. wrote:I haven't had food poisoning since I was a kid, eating questionable things out of the fridge.

Man, where do you guys go to get food poisoning? I don't get it. (Knock on wood)


one of the two times i've had it was from a five star joint. i couldn't imagine walking--much less playing basketball--after that. the pain is enough that you're on the verge of wishing for unconsciousness. it's like a spiked metal ball is churning in your gut. if that's what mj was dealing with, that's nuts.
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Postby wcsoldier81 on Fri Apr 19, 2013 11:13 pm

Even if they were in the middle of nowhere , don't tell me they couldn't schedule/prepare their meals better ...

I assume it's a usual thing for US athletes but eating a pizza the day before a game is flat out pathetic
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Postby Forward Three on Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:28 am

wcsoldier81 wrote:Even if they were in the middle of nowhere , don't tell me they couldn't schedule/prepare their meals better ...

I assume it's a usual thing for US athletes but eating a pizza the day before a game is flat out pathetic


They don't. Nutritional Science, particularly in athletics is fairly new in terms of something they are actually starting to take seriously, and even as it gains traction there is still an enormous amount of inertia, outdated or incomplete ideas, conflicting(and well researched) ideas, bias...etc.

And that's not even to factor in the personal/lifestyle aspect, or the fact that even adonis-types like Lebron probably grew up eating just as many big macs as any average poor kid in a major city would. As well as the superstitious and habitual nature that athletes often cultivate where having pizza before a game is scene as a ritual every bit as important as any other.

It's a pretty new idea for athletes to have live-in chefs and meticulously crafted menus for their weeks. More common it's the standard 'common sense' stuff everyone assumes "Chicken and rice, and pasta after a workout" type of stuff.

We want to think of our multimillion dollar athletes as bionic supermen who have every single detail of every facet of their performance-dependent lives curated and managed, and certainly some will strive for that, but it's by no means the norm.
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Postby Forward Three on Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:31 am

We've all had experience with food poisoning I'm sure, but as someone who recently had a bout of it and the first time in my adult life, I was astonished at just how agonizing it was for me, beyond anything I recalled from when I was younger. Certainly a legendary game from Jordan and a potent hallmark of the type of athlete he was.
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Postby Snake Eyes on Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:55 am

I got food poisoning for the first time in early summer. I seriously cannot comprehend how Kobe or Jordan would have played with such an affliction.
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Postby Rooscooter on Sat Apr 20, 2013 9:41 am

Why is this even an issue? He was sick.... he played a great game with the sickness....

It's emblematic of a mindset that most pro athletes don't have.... what difference does it make if it was the "flu" or "food poisoning"?

btw.... the "flu" is a viral infection that afflicts between 1% and 4% of the population in a given year.... the duration of symptoms can be from 5 days to 3 weeks. Food poisoning it most typically a bacterial infection that can last from 8 hours to 4 days. More people die from "Food Poisoning" by far in a given year than do from the "flu" in the US.
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Postby Iceberg Slim on Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:48 am

wcsoldier81 wrote:Even if they were in the middle of nowhere , don't tell me they couldn't schedule/prepare their meals better ...

I assume it's a usual thing for US athletes but eating a pizza the day before a game is flat out pathetic


Athletes are humans just like everybody else. You ever see one in your local city? If you did, you probably saw them eating out, having a beer, or relaxing with friends/teammates...which includes eating food NOT prepped by a personal chef. It's not a big deal to have a few slices of pizza a day before a game.
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