NBA close to ending flopping

NBA close to ending flopping

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Re: NBA close to ending flopping

Postby 24K GOLD on Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:28 pm

Chris Paul and Blake Griffin are not amused.
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Re: NBA close to ending flopping

Postby Rooscooter on Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:43 pm

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Re: NBA close to ending flopping

Postby Kasumi on Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:56 pm

Here's the article:
ELIZABETH, N.J. -- The NBA is about to act in hopes of stopping the floppers.

Spokesman Tim Frank said Thursday the league is finalizing procedures to deal with flopping, the art of falling down when little or no contact was made in an effort to trick referees into calling a foul.

Frank said the competition committee met two weeks ago and discussed plans that would go in place this season. Commissioner David Stern believes too many players are deceiving referees by flopping and has been seeking a way to properly penalize them.

The procedures likely will involve a postgame review of the play by the league office, rather than an official calling an infraction during the game, Frank said. Players likely would be fined if the league determined they flopped.

The proposed plan mirrors a "postgame analysis" option Stern discussed after the competition committee met in June. The league already retroactively reviews flagrant fouls to determine if they need to be upgraded or downgraded.

"If you continue to do this, you may you have to suffer some consequences," Stern said about flopping during the NBA Finals. "What those exactly should be and what the progression is, is to be decided, because ... we just want to put a stake in the ground that says this is not something that we want to be part of our game, without coming down with a sledgehammer but just doing it in a minimalist way to begin stamping it out. And I think there are ways we can do that and we'll have to wait and see exactly what we come up with."

The league's 62-person referee staff is holding its training camp, its first under the leadership of former NBA player and longtime league executive Mike Bantom. Bantom replaced Gen. Ron Johnson as executive vice president of referee operations earlier this month.

"I think one of the things that I'd just like to focus on is I think there's a perception out there that kind of throws into question sometimes the competence of our officials and even the integrity of them at times, and I think that that's not true to begin with and unfair, and I want to try and change that perception," said Bantom, who had been the league's senior vice president of player development since 1999.
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Re: NBA close to ending flopping

Postby lakefansac on Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:22 pm

There goes the Lakers chances of resigning Derek Fisher.

In all seriousness, it depends on how strict they are because almost everybody in the NBA flops to fool the refs into a call.
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Re: NBA close to ending flopping

Postby Tobias Funke on Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:00 pm

I'll wait and see how what they decide on, because I have a feeling this is just a waste of time and they're not gonna be fining anybody.
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Re: NBA close to ending flopping

Postby wcsoldier81 on Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:43 am

They will do it for one month then realize this is too much work because of the number of floppers ...

I still expect the Flippers to dominate this discipline
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Postby V.V.V.V.V. on Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:44 am

It could be used in a detrimental way, like if Kobe gets hit hard and is knocked to the ground, and retroactively gets a flopping fine called against him. j/k But it's still a subjective call, so it's going to be hard to call, whether during or after the game.
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Re: NBA close to ending flopping

Postby JSM on Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:47 am

We've heard this before and no action was taken. I'll believe it when I see it.
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Re: NBA close to ending flopping

Postby Finwë on Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:55 am

JSM wrote: I'll believe it when I see it.
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Re: NBA close to ending flopping

Postby BDG on Fri Sep 28, 2012 1:30 am

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Re: NBA close to ending flopping

Postby BadCoaching on Fri Sep 28, 2012 3:30 am

I think it's more for those Blake Griffin type flops.. where he literally is 3feet from someone and jumps up in the air and lands on the floor horizontal cringing..

Those are insanely disgusting and very embarrassing plays for the NBA.. worse then soccer even.
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Re: NBA close to ending flopping

Postby therealdeal on Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:23 am

BDG wrote:Clippers: 0-82

Yup. They took flopping to another level last season... just disgusting.

I wont believe anything until it happens. If it does, it'll be fun seeing how much money Chris Paul loses.
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Re: NBA close to ending flopping

Postby Texas Lakers Fan on Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:50 am

About time. :jam2:
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Re: NBA close to ending flopping

Postby Punk-101 on Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:14 am

Even if this does go into effect, i doubt we'll see any action against the superstars anyway...
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Re: NBA close to ending flopping

Postby Weezy on Fri Sep 28, 2012 4:24 pm

I'll say the same thing I always say, I'll believe it when I see it. Also, retroactive punishment is little consolation when flopping calls cost one team a game. Penalize it during the game or why bother. Then again they'd always have to be going to replay to tell if it was a flop or not during games and that doesn't work either, so I really don't see how they solve this unless the punishment after the fact is a LOT of money or suspensions or something.
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Re: NBA close to ending flopping

Postby Finwë on Fri Sep 28, 2012 4:39 pm

THIS:
Punk-101 wrote:Even if this does go into effect, i doubt we'll see any action against the superstars anyway...

People talking about CP3 are setting themselves up for dissapointment IMO. Superstars are the products this league sells, and if calling them on flopping will somehow make them less appealing (worse stats -less points, lesser FTs attempts, worse FG%- for example) then I don't see the league doing it.
I think if they truly apply it they'll do it for role players and such, I just can't see the league staining, for example, Chris Paul's, Blake Griffin's or LeBron James' image by fining them and tagging them as official floppers. Someone like Mo Williams, or Mario Chalmers, them I see being fined. But not superstars.


Also, THIS:
Weezy wrote:I'll say the same thing I always say, I'll believe it when I see it. Also, retroactive punishment is little consolation when flopping calls cost one team a game. Penalize it during the game or why bother. Then again they'd always have to be going to replay to tell if it was a flop or not during games and that doesn't work either, so I really don't see how they solve this unless the punishment after the fact is a LOT of money or suspensions or something.
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Re: NBA close to ending flopping

Postby ThizGuy83 on Fri Sep 28, 2012 5:10 pm

i was really expecting alot of gifs or pictures of all the floppers... i must say im a lil disappointed
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Re: NBA close to ending flopping

Postby Rooscooter on Fri Sep 28, 2012 6:18 pm

BadCoaching wrote:I think it's more for those Blake Griffin type flops.. where he literally is 3feet from someone and jumps up in the air and lands on the floor horizontal cringing..

Those are insanely disgusting and very embarrassing plays for the NBA.. worse then soccer even.


While I agree with the Biff flopping..... the master is Chris Paul without a doubt. He predicates most of his game on tricking the refs.... all he does is talk to the refs.... he's yet to commit a foul in his career and is fouled on every turnover and miss..... just ask him. His "heliflopter" and other "Razzi Award" winning antics should be banned from the game forever. I know this is mostly lip service.... like the palming when Iverson was still playing but at least it's a step in the right direction.

I'd actually have a Monday morning film review and hand out significant fines and then suspensions to repeat offenders if I were commish.... Gaining an advantage by tricking 3rd party impartial officials has nothing to do with any "Sport" that real men play IMHO.....
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Re: NBA close to ending flopping

Postby Weezy on Fri Sep 28, 2012 8:49 pm

And like others have said, I just cannot see the league taking one of it's biggest stars completely out of his game like that, that being Chris Paul. Almost every other superstar/star in the NBA I can see adjusting because IMO they do not need to flop, but CP3 would be hurt by the loss of it big time. Certain guys flop that just do not need to, their games would not be hurt in the least without it, like LeBron for example.
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Re: NBA close to ending flopping

Postby ben_ready on Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:33 pm

Terrible terrible terrible, cause we all know labron and wade will still get away with it,and alot of others will be penalized at a certain time to aide the heat in winning. Yell™
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