Ring It Up wrote:Where did I call him top 5? That was someone else. I NEVER said that or agreed with it. The man just lead his team to a title. 33 points 11 boards on 60% shooting in game 4. Whats your idea of average? He didn't have a GREAT finals but he did enough for his team to win. I'm not asking anyone to hail to anything. But I don't think you win 2 titles and 2 Finals MVP by being below average.
I said the person you piggy-backed on was the one claiming he was is all I said since that was the point I was attacking which you then attacked. Lebron shot 10% below is average (something discussed in the LBJ thread without hating or baiting mind you). He was shooting less than, yes less than, 20% in the fourth quartres of games and was missing for great parts of them. Had the Spurs won the media and the fans would be killing him for being passive, not getting it done, relying on Wade to take over instead of himself. He wins and all of a sudden none of that applies? Come on man you're better than that. Do you really think he played better than his lofty average?
Kobe put up 28.6ppg 40.5%FG 32%3PP 4APG 8RPG 2SPG 4TOP in the 2010 Finals. Using your standards Kobe was below average except for 3 games, two of which were losses.
For comparison James 25.3ppg 44.7%FG 35%3PP 7APG 11RPG 2SPG 2.6TOP in the 2010 Finals.
And this is where stats are misleading. I WATCHED Kobe Bryant do damn near everything in his power to win. Yes, his percentages were down but he also faced a defense designed specifically to stop him that game. Lebron was dared to shoot the entire game. He came up and made shot after shot. I all but said that in the original comment. If you WATCHED Lebron all playoffs you know he was indeed more passive than great, more timid than aggressive and much less than himself all playoffs. Game 7 he did what he needed and, like I said, he deserves credit for it. So does Wade, Battier and even Bosh who played great D on Duncan all game.
Both players IMHO did enough for their teams to win. Both players and teams proved to be champions. Both players were Finals MVPs. I see him for what he is. A great basketball player just like Kobe.
Not once did you see me say anything less than Lebron is a great player. Not once. Even when I have been overly critical of his heart, will to win, and capability to get it done when it matters I have never deminished his talents as a player. Which brings me back to the original problem why is Lebron above reproach?