Iceberg Slim wrote:This makes sense Puff. But can't we agree that a person gives credence to dumb statements just by responding to them? Like Lebron is the best in the last 15 years, but he's only been playing for 10. It's so absurd, it needs no attention.
Since we're on the topic of dumb things people say and Lebron James. I hated his championship smug look and speech thereafter. It reeked with self-absorption. He addressed "haters". It's not necessary imo. It's so obvious he's the King of the World. Why address peons of people on Twitter, ESPN, or across America who "hate" and burn jersey's? And because of his words, they have an elevated platform. They have his attention, which is what they wanted.
I only gave the 15 years attention because it is reflective of how people overreact to Lebron. Hell, some people couldn't even see that it was just an absurd comment and took it and ran with it like it is actually a debateable thing. In the end I agree with your statement.
As far as Lebron I didn't see his speech but I am not surprised he did it. The greats would find something to target to drive them. MJ was famous for it. Kobe just wants to kill everyone. Lebron is too concerned with all that other stuff. It is one of the reasons I say I still don't believe he is mentally tough.
Again, I don't disagree with your statement. My point is that people will take what he is saying and run with it. Do we really think that people are going to remember Magic said "could" instead of "is" which Magic knows. Maybe it is killing the messanger a bit.How, lol? Magic's operative word is could. Don't you and I think the same thing lol? "Could" is the biggest 5 letter word in the American lexicon. Len Bias could have been great. It speaks to potential. Which means, if he gets 5-7 rings he might be the best ever to lace em' up. How is that off base or irrational? What is off base are the people who already think it, like you said. And we already agreed they are disqualified from having a balanced, sensible basketball opinion (at least on this topic) probably because they are 16 years old on Clublakers, possibly trolling. It's nonsensical. I can't let them have my time. I only have a few hours and minutes of the day.
Yes but he is speaking as an expert. Which, of topic, I am personally disappointed he lets Sheridon (or however its spelled) just basically talk mad crap about his teams. Magic really seems like he just speaks to fit in which I personally hate. Like you said, he is a man of extremes.It's simple...he's a FAN lol. Haven't we learned anything about Magic from his playing days and interviews post retirement? The dude has a surging passion for the game that's child-like, unlike former Hall of Famers...or grown men. The guy is just excited. And sometimes overly harsh too. He's a man of extremes. But his statements on Lebron have been calculated. Why? His best friend is MJ. And he's a 5-time winner too. But he hasn't said anything outlandish.
[i]I'll answer this collectively.
Sure, he left a 60 win team...that was structured to win or fail on one thing Puff...HIM! Who was their second best player? Varejao? Mo Williams? Eric Snow? Big Z? You didn't have to be a genius to figure out that team wasn't going anywhere. Who cares about regular season wins Puff? It's about winning championships. Those Cavaliers team were structured the same way his high school team was. A bunch of role players who couldn't score but passed the ball to the most physically gifted athlete on Planet Earth. That's how I knew he was going to be a great pro actually. He elevated the game of "average guys" to "good". "Good" guys would look "great" next to him. His team finished ranked #1 in the country nationally after his state title senior year. Typically, that kind of team is always composed of 3-4 division 1 blue chip recruits. You know what school his star teammate (Romeo Travis) when to college the next year? The University of Akron.
THe big statement is that the Cavs team was built around Him and him only. We all knew that and he wanted it. He had a team that dominated the East. Yes, they may have been built to fail but they were built around him. THat isn't my problem though. When Lebron wins everyone of his teammates are treated like those also rans. He went to the Heat (again, I don't knock him for that) but his teammates aren't some also rans like it is being made to believe. It is the MJ effect all over again. Those who didn't watch MJ believe he had great teams simply because of him. The media and casual fan downplays the people playing next to him to help make him look better. My goal is to actually discuss those things that seem to be dismissed after someone wins.