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Postby puffyusaf#2 on Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:19 pm

That westbrook stat they dropped last night was crazy too. The dude has never missed a game at any level he has played at. That is nutts.
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Re: Official LBJ thread: The most durable player ever (Skip)

Postby V.V.V.V.V. on Wed Mar 06, 2013 5:56 pm

Westbrook will eventually go the way of Wade. The house always wins. Or in this case, the floor of the house.
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Re: Official LBJ thread: The most durable player ever (Skip)

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:59 pm

The NBA TV guys showed a stat that today that Lebron made his first go-ahead game winner in the last 10 seconds of a game since joining MIami. I couldn't stop the screen to actually get the stats but it was pretty surprising that he is like 1-10 in that scenerio.
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Re: Official LBJ thread: The most durable player ever (Skip)

Postby wcsoldier81 on Thu Mar 07, 2013 3:35 am

Game winner with 4 steps ... even Harden may be jealous
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Re: Official LBJ thread: The most durable player ever (Skip)

Postby Magic Skywalker on Thu Mar 07, 2013 4:43 am

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Magic Skywalker wrote:I do believe he might be the most durable. He is not like Fisher or Andre Miller, who don't injure because of their type of game, he is just doesn't injure no matter how he lands or what kind of hit he receives.

Of course, A.C. Green record is no joke. Simply impressive. And he did jump a lot and played with a lot of contact.

Another guy who want to present to the "elections" of Most Durable Guy is Russell Westbrook, who is yet to miss a game in his career.

I've got to believe Russell is going down with an injury soon. Maybe not a serious one, but definitely soon. He's too much of a high flier and too athletic of a player to never get hurt. I just don't see that happening for much longer.


Maybe. I won't say he won't because, as you say, he is a high flier. But because he is so much of a high flier is why he may become a candidate for "most durable" if he somehow doesn't injure, and is actually pretty impressive the simple fact that he is yet to miss a game playing the way he plays.
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Re: Official LBJ thread: The most durable player ever (Skip)

Postby 432J on Thu Mar 07, 2013 8:08 am

no one has ever played through injuries as successfully as kobe, i've lost track of how many times he's been injured or has something bothering him and still comes out and drops 30

kobe, malone, green, fisher, miller, wade. i'd put all those guys ahead of lebron in terms of durability. and i know i'm missing some
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Re: Official LBJ thread: The most durable player ever (Skip)

Postby therealdeal on Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:02 am

Magic Skywalker wrote:
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Magic Skywalker wrote:I do believe he might be the most durable. He is not like Fisher or Andre Miller, who don't injure because of their type of game, he is just doesn't injure no matter how he lands or what kind of hit he receives.

Of course, A.C. Green record is no joke. Simply impressive. And he did jump a lot and played with a lot of contact.

Another guy who want to present to the "elections" of Most Durable Guy is Russell Westbrook, who is yet to miss a game in his career.

I've got to believe Russell is going down with an injury soon. Maybe not a serious one, but definitely soon. He's too much of a high flier and too athletic of a player to never get hurt. I just don't see that happening for much longer.


Maybe. I won't say he won't because, as you say, he is a high flier. But because he is so much of a high flier is why he may become a candidate for "most durable" if he somehow doesn't injure, and is actually pretty impressive the simple fact that he is yet to miss a game playing the way he plays.

I'm not denying the impressiveness at all. All I'm saying is I literally cannot see a scenario in which he doesn't sustain some sort of debilitating injury in the next couple of years. The way he plays, all out every single possession, using his athleticism in every way shape or form...

We've seen Rose, Shumpert, and Rondo all go down for the EXACT same thing. And I'm not convinced any of them are more athletic than Russell. The body just isn't built for what he's doing to it.

But again, what he's doing is absolutely impressive.
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Re: Official LBJ thread: The most durable player ever (Skip)

Postby The Rock on Thu Mar 07, 2013 3:36 pm

He travelled on that gamewinner
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Re: Official LBJ thread: The most durable player ever (Skip)

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:50 pm

I saw this stat real quick one night on one show but never saw it again or even heard anyone mention it. Now I know the heat have won a lot of games but in all the years there this is the amount of time LBJ has had the game in his hands (taking the shot at least) and he had never made one until the celebrated winner the other day? This is suprising.....

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Re: Official LBJ thread: Clutch in Miami 1-9?

Postby Maluco Beleza on Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:37 pm

wow... best player in the nba by far.. scary good right now
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Re: Official LBJ thread: Clutch in Miami 1-9?

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:14 pm

Maluco Beleza wrote:wow... best player in the nba by far.. scary good right now

Shocking.
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Re: Official LBJ thread: The most durable player ever (Skip)

Postby Rooscooter on Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:20 pm

KB24 wrote:Karl Malone was the most durable IMO. The beating that he took....he was a TANK.
Malone played 80+ games EVERY season his career except the lock-out season in 1998 and his last season with the Lakers when he got hurt...any other season? he missed a maximum of 1-2 games.


This....

Malone was not only there every night..... he was consistently there for 18 years straight....

He's one of the most overlooked "greats" in the games history IMO......
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Re: Official LBJ thread: Clutch in Miami 1-9?

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:37 pm

^Malone was a beast.
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Re: Official LBJ thread: Clutch in Miami 1-9?

Postby JoelMyersScrotalSack on Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:53 pm

"Game-winners" are such an overrated aspect of basketball. Kobe's percentages are often terrible as well

What should really be looked at is how amazing the Heat are in crunch time

http://stats.nba.com/leagueTeamClutch.h ... tOrder=DES

Not a single team comes close. LeBron has a huge part in that

http://www.nba.com/advancedstats/player ... tValue=all
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Re: Official LBJ thread: Clutch in Miami 1-9?

Postby Rooscooter on Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:29 pm

^^ good and great teams don't need a lot of game winners. They've done their winning for 4 quarters most of the time.

As for Kobe's % in that position..... He's taken more than anyone ever most likely. Some of the makes far out weigh many of the misses IMO.

The Heat are capable of a level of play this year that no one else is..... Not even close it seems.
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Re: Official LBJ thread: Clutch in Miami 1-9?

Postby havoc33 on Fri Mar 22, 2013 4:22 am

It's quite depressing if you're not a fan of the Heat, really. They will win it for sure.
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Re: Official LBJ thread: Clutch in Miami 1-9?

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Fri Mar 22, 2013 8:09 am

I don't know why the Heat would make other fans depressed. They are playing great ball as far as the winning record goes, however, it is more to it than just that. I often talk about teams not knowing how to "win" games instead they find ways to snatch defeat out of the hands of victory. The Lakers early on this year is a perfect example of that as they blew lead after lead after lead to all sorts of teams both good and bad. Look at the Clev game for instance, the Heat blew several shots and the Cavs could of extended their lead but instead made dumb play after dumb play to end the game. Even after LBJ hit the two free throws the Cavs chose to go with ISO 3-pointer over Battier (I think) to end the game. They lost because they don't know how to win plain and simple. The Heat on the other hand kept their poise and even though they missed late shots they still understood how to win the game. I agree with those who think the Heat have a cake walk to the Finals coming out of the East where every team but theirs is missing key players. That being said just as the Heat can get on this great roll they can go the other way too. In the end, LBJ is playing great and so are his teammates. This run is great and shouldn't be just blown to the side like was done with Houston's 22 game win streak after losing Yao and McGrady. I still think they are beatable in a 7 game series.
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Re: Official LBJ thread: Clutch in Miami 1-9?

Postby dmaul on Fri Mar 22, 2013 10:46 pm

^ umm, by who? Certainly no team I can think of in 2012-13. I would say San Antonio has the best chance if Parker's healthy. Duncan has been having a great year, quite a comeback year for him. And they have the best coach in the game. Still I don't think it'll be enough. And OKC should be kicking themselves for letting Harden go. They've essentially given up contending with Miami for the foreseeable future. But it was about money and not basketball for their ownership so I can't blame them. Looks to me like Miami will have their way with the league for the next few years.
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Re: Official LBJ thread: Clutch in Miami 1-9?

Postby RushDelivery on Sat Mar 23, 2013 12:20 am

^ Barring a freak injury I agree that Miami has to be the overwhelming favorite this season. That doesn't mean they're unbeatable, but they are fairly close to it considering the lack of contenders. I would give the Spurs an outside chance to upset them, but there's no other team in the NBA that has a significant shot of knocking out the Heat.
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Re: Official LBJ thread: Clutch in Miami 1-9?

Postby wcsoldier81 on Sat Mar 23, 2013 1:32 am

A SAS-Heat Finals would be nice ... not a clear view on how they match up since they barely play each other at full strength ... anything but a OKC-Heat rematch , guaranteed win for Heat+ just bad B-Ball to watch ...

The Grizz are one perimeter scorer off the bench away to beat Miami ... tough D and Z-Bo/Marc can abuse them inside
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Re: Official LBJ thread: Clutch in Miami 1-9?

Postby Finwë on Sat Mar 23, 2013 12:42 pm

wcsoldier81 wrote:A SAS-Heat Finals would be nice ... not a clear view on how they match up since they barely play each other at full strength ... anything but a OKC-Heat rematch , guaranteed win for Heat+ just bad B-Ball to watch ...

The Grizz are one perimeter scorer off the bench away to beat Miami ... tough D and Z-Bo/Marc can abuse them inside

That's my matchup too, SAS-Miami.
As bad as I want the Clippers to keep failing, I'd actually rather seeing them in the finals against Miami instead of OKC. Do NOT want a repeat of last year's finals.
Grizzlies are intriguing and definitely a tough team, but they have no one to go to in the 4th. Their offense is quite ugly, and I don't think the refs would let them be as physical as they're accustomed to against the Heat in the finals...

Could Denver come out of the West?
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Re: Official LBJ thread: Clutch in Miami 1-9?

Postby Forward Three on Sat Mar 23, 2013 12:44 pm

OKC vs. Miami rematch would be fun if the Thunder actually stepped up and took some vengeance. But as we've seen so many times from OKC, for as strong as a team as they are, they are a 'mad player is a bad player' team personified. Durant is usually unfettered but just about everyone else of note on that team is liable to get too excited/frustrated/emotional.

Against Miami, who are their de facto archrivals right now, it's been worse.
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Re: Official LBJ thread: Clutch in Miami 1-9?

Postby Forward Three on Sat Mar 23, 2013 12:49 pm

SAS vs. Miami would be cool for Lebron in the sense that he would have a chance to take down the team that 0-4'd him in his first trip to the Finals. Not sure that's the matchup I'd want to see though.

If I'm honest, if it can't be the Lakers(lol, sorry) a part of me kind of wants it to be the Clippers. Yes, they are floppers and all but from a match-up perspective I think LAC vs. MIA would be one of the more entertaining combinations available. Both teams play upbeat, 'passing lanes' basketball with highlight plays for days and between them have some of the most spectacular athletes in the game. But then there is that awkward possibility of LAC actually _winning_ and suddenly having 1 NBA championship > 17 NBA Championship from across the hall and it would legitimize "Clippers Nation" and LA would feel a lot weirder.


Grizzlies are easily my second favorite team after LAL just overall, but it's hard to see them on the big stage and I doubt their style of basketball would be allowed against Miami.
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Re: Official LBJ thread: Clutch in Miami 1-9?

Postby therealdeal on Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:40 am

You kidding?

Clippers would get absolutely toasted by Miami. Absolutely and 100% toasted. Worse than the Lakers by far.
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Re: Official LBJ thread: Clutch in Miami 1-9?

Postby Chillbongo on Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:23 pm

aaaaaanddd LeBron beasted last night. Got to watch on NBA TV.

His mid-range game has gotten a lot better. He can hit pull up jump shots pretty easily now.


edit: I still like Kobe
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