Official LBJ thread: no more roid....errr..carbs =slim

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Postby Juronimo on Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:54 am

thkthebest wrote:
Juronimo wrote:The NBA already tests for PED's. Rashard Lewis and OJ Mayo were suspended for PED use.

What I want to know is what if anything is changing when it comes to PED testing.

The NBA does test players, but its testing policies are considered to be very poor.

For example, you get a set amount of tests during the season. I think it's 4. After your last random test, you are never tested again. If your 4th tests happen to come around the 50th game or something, you're basically free to use PEDs for the rest of the season.

The NBA polices itself. You can already see how that's a problem. Headlines of LeBron using PEDs would hurt the league. This also causes a lack of transparency. We really have no way of knowing if the NBA is properly running tests.

There is no blood testing, which makes it a lot harder to catch these "cheaters".

I believe the NBA is the only sport where a star hasn't been tested positive for PEDs.

Anyway, there's a lot of articles on the subject. I'm curious as well to see what the new changes are (if there are going to be any).


That makes sense. I'd be shocked if there wasn't significant PED use in the NBA. You can see just how much bulkier players have gotten in the last 20 years compared to the '80's. There's obviously something going on.

I wonder how they evaded the Olympics drug testing. I'd imagine their drug testing is stricter than this and several of these guys that look like they might be on something have played in the Olympics.
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Re: Official LBJ thread: no more roid....errr..carbs =slim

Postby kenzo on Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:49 pm

There must be a deal between NBA and IOC. We give you our stars (starting from Barcelona) you don't drug test them.
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Re: Official LBJ thread: no more roid....errr..carbs =slim

Postby trodgers on Thu Aug 14, 2014 5:39 am

Look at some other sports compared to NBA:


Cycling
Lance Armstrong - greatest ever?

MLB
TONS of players suspended, but I'll add in the big names here:
Rafael Palmeiro 10 games
Mike Cameron 25 games
Manny Ramirez 50 games
Edinson Volquez 50 games
Manny Ramirez 100 games
Marlon BYrd 50 games
Melky Cabrera 50 games
Bartolo Colon 50 games
Carlos Ruiz 50 games (but he has ADD and it was Adderall; he now takes the drug legally)
Ryan Braun 65 games
Nelson Cruz 50 games
Jhonny Peralta 50 games
A-Rod 162 games
Miguel Tejada 105 games
-The standard penalty is now 50 games first offense. That's about two months and 1/3 of the season. In the NBA, that would be 25-30 games. Second offense is 100 games. That's about four months and 2/3 of the season. That would be about 55 games in the NBA.

NFL
Since 2000, LOTS of guys. Shortest suspension 4 games.
I'll try to pick out just the bigger names.
Julius Peppers 4 games
David Boston 4 games
Sammy Morris 4 games
Matt Lehr 4 games
Shawne Merriman 4 games
Rodney Harrison 4 games
Luke PEttigout 4 games
Dwayne Bowe 4 games
Jason Ferguson 8 games
Santonio Holmes 4 games
Brian Cushing 4 games
Phillip Buchanan 4 games
Tamba Hali 1 game
Aqib Talib 4 games
Josh Gordon 2 games
Andre Holmes 4 games
DeMarcus Love 4 games
Von Miller 6 games
Tom Zbikowski 5 games
Kellen Winslow Jr. 4 games
Justin Blackmon indefinite
Brandon Browner 4 games
Robert Mathis 4 games
-Four games is pretty standard; that's about a month and 1/4 of the season. That would be 15-20 games in the NBA.

NBA
Chris Anderson - 2006
Lindsey Hunter - 2007 (10 games)
Darius Miles - 2008 (10 games)
Rashard Lewis - 2009 (10 games)
OJ Mayo - 2011 (10 games)
Mo Taylor - 2003 (6 games)
-So, almost no big names - and some of these are for marijuana rather than PEDs.

BTW, I didn't remember ever hearing about this: On June 2, 2006, Mbenga was suspended six games by NBA commissioner David Stern for going into the stands to aid the wife of coach Avery Johnson, who was involved in a confrontation with fans.

I actually think PEDs should be legal, by the way.
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Postby pound4pound1 on Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:54 am

travis- we're in the minority but yes, i think they should all be juicing
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Re: Official LBJ thread: no more roid....errr..carbs =slim

Postby Juronimo on Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:33 pm

kenzo wrote:There must be a deal between NBA and IOC. We give you our stars (starting from Barcelona) you don't drug test them.


It wouldn't surprise me. This has already happened with US olympic athletes having positive drug tests covered up. It happened in 1988 in the infamous juiced up 100 meter dash. Carl Lewis' positive drug test was covered up.
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Postby therealdeal on Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:17 pm

pound4pound1 wrote:travis- we're in the minority but yes, i think they should all be juicing

I don't know that you're in the minority honestly. I think most people are over it.

I don't know if they should all be juicing though. :man10: I think they should have that choice, but I don't want it mandated or anything.
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Re: Official LBJ thread: no more roid....errr..carbs =slim

Postby laakers on Sat Aug 16, 2014 1:24 am

Doing unnatural things to be good at a sport... :nono2:

But what about brotein powder?
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Postby V.V.V.V.V. on Sat Aug 16, 2014 1:43 pm

It's part of the athletic experience these days, to take some form of PED. IMO they should ban and test for steroids, which are the most performance enhancing, and the most dangerous over long periods.

Testing for HGH is probably moot, since the right aminos can raise HGH levels. I doubt that's traceable.
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Re: Official LBJ thread: no more roid....errr..carbs =slim

Postby noobiew on Sat Aug 23, 2014 10:38 am

So Lebron's new big 3 is completed !

The King bailed and dumped his old friends (Wade, Bosh) to start a new big 3 (Love, Irving)

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Postby trodgers on Sat Aug 23, 2014 11:18 am

noobiew wrote:So Lebron's new big 3 is completed !

The King bailed and dumped his old friends (Wade, Bosh) to start a new big 3 (Love, Irving)

:bow:

"It's gonna be easy."

Four years later, one career is over, and only one of them is close to a big three.
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Postby Doc Brown on Sat Aug 23, 2014 11:34 am

Woj posted a tweet today about how Love and Gilbert met in Las Vegas around the time Lebron made his tough "decision" to come back to CLE.

I just laugh when I hear people say he came back because he loves CLE and blah blah. He came back because he knew the team was better for the now and future plain and simple. There is no feel good story here about the local boy coming home.

If CLE didn't have everything lined up for them, his a** would still be in South Beach.
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Postby ZenMaster4President on Sat Aug 23, 2014 12:44 pm

Whoever believed the "coming home" angle - I have this property, a bridge, mint condition, to sell. PM me.
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Re: Official LBJ thread: no more roid....errr..carbs =slim

Postby Barnstable on Sun Aug 31, 2014 12:11 am

I realized this while watching a video Vash posted, but did anyone else ever notice....

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Postby trodgers on Sun Aug 31, 2014 5:18 am

The Game on the bottom right looks like a LeBron/Harden hybrid.
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Postby V.V.V.V.V. on Sun Aug 31, 2014 4:29 pm

He has more of a Lamarcus nose than a LeBron nose.
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