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Re: Official LBJ thread: Whats in the legacy?

Postby wallangong on Sat Jun 07, 2014 8:31 pm

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didn't Jordan return to that game? it's been a long time but IIRC he did come back. doesn't really make a relevant comparison if so.
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Re: Official LBJ thread: Whats in the legacy?

Postby Forward Three on Sat Jun 07, 2014 8:33 pm

Yeah, he came back and immediately contributed with a bucket, steal and block. They barely lost down the stretch. It was also stomach cramping though, not exactly the same as muscles locking up. It's kind of a dumb comparison I think, the type of thing that we're only talking about because some people hit Google looking for it.
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Re: Official LBJ thread: Whats in the legacy?

Postby wallangong on Sat Jun 07, 2014 8:45 pm

Forward Three wrote:Yeah, he came back and immediately contributed with a bucket, steal and block. They barely lost down the stretch. It was also stomach cramping though, not exactly the same as muscles locking up. It's kind of a dumb comparison I think, the type of thing that we're only talking about because some people hit Google looking for it.


yeah i agree i think it's an irrelevant comparison. it shouldn't be used to attack or defend LeBron. it's 2 entirely different scenarios, so this information doesn't influence my feelings.
i don't care how debilitating cramps can be, if you anoint yourself The Chosen One and want to be considered the GOAT, then your legacy depends on how you perform in championship situations. when the premier physical specimen in all of sports is the only person to really suffer from the heat, it just seems crazy to me. what's really bothersome is all the apologists getting mad at the haters. when you are or are aspiring to be the best, getting hated on comes with the territory.
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Re: Official LBJ thread: Whats in the legacy?

Postby LakerFan1235 on Sun Jun 08, 2014 8:11 pm

"The man upstairs don't protect me" please just cut your tongue off already.
Every time I begin to ask, "Is he really as great as I think he is?" ...He proves that he is.
Every time I begin to wonder...He proves it...That is why I won't lose hope in him.
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Re: Official LBJ thread: Whats in the legacy?

Postby Forward Three on Sun Jun 08, 2014 8:18 pm

That was an incredible scoring blitz tonight from James. He came into the game kinda looking meh, but once he starting letting those shots fly that was just kind of ridiculous. You really don't tend to see James scoring like that too often overall. That is to say, confident, quick 'easy' jumpers. It was Durant-esque in a way where he just seemed to be saying "Wait, I can just shoot over this guy, and I'm Lebron James".
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Re: Official LBJ thread: Whats in the legacy?

Postby laakers on Sun Jun 08, 2014 8:25 pm

LakerFan1235 wrote:"The man upstairs don't protect me" please just cut your tongue off already.


Did he say that? Dear God...
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Re: Official LBJ thread: Whats in the legacy?

Postby TIME on Sun Jun 08, 2014 8:57 pm

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LakerFan1235 wrote:"The man upstairs don't protect me" please just cut your tongue off already.


Did he say that? Dear God...


What was the context?
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Re: Official LBJ thread: Whats in the legacy?

Postby thkthebest on Sun Jun 08, 2014 9:27 pm

He was talking about God. He said something along the lines of, "If I play hard, the man upstairs will protect me."
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Re: Official LBJ thread: Whats in the legacy?

Postby laakers on Mon Jun 09, 2014 12:53 am

Oh, so it's the other way around? I took it like the media doesn't protect him :man10:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRAOYG7yNyg

2:36 Bosh had the ball and LeBron tried calling timeout. :man10: "Hang on for a sec Chris lets take a huddle real quick so I can get the ball! No no no - ok ok good Chris good Chris!"
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Re: Official LBJ thread: Whats in the legacy?

Postby LakerFan1235 on Mon Jun 09, 2014 2:37 am

TIME wrote:
laakers wrote:
LakerFan1235 wrote:"The man upstairs don't protect me" please just cut your tongue off already.


Did he say that? Dear God...


What was the context?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX2sRSmG2uA

My bad guys I guess i misheard. I watched the youtube clip and blasted the volume, I guess he says "If I play hard the man up stairs gone protect me", not "don't protect me" as I originally thought.
Still though, so annoying when athletes are constantly referencing God in their game.
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Re: Official LBJ thread: Whats in the legacy?

Postby Rooscooter on Mon Jun 09, 2014 7:51 am

I'd say his play last night erased the cramp-gate....... :man10:

Wade looks worn out. He had about 8 decent plays last night...... One big one with about a minute left but otherwise he's looking physically worn down.
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Re: Official LBJ thread: Whats in the legacy?

Postby therealdeal on Mon Jun 09, 2014 9:15 am

Yeah that's how you erase talk about the cramping. Go out there, win a game, put the team on your back.

Props to LeBron for that performance.
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Re: Official LBJ thread: Whats in the legacy?

Postby gcclaker on Mon Jun 09, 2014 10:40 am

James' J looked smooth and effortless in the third. Even with that, I'd still concede the perimeter shot to him. Much better than him creating havoc in the paint with his drives and setting up shooters. One thing, is that production from Green and Leonard for the Spurs have been sporadic at best.
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Re: Official LBJ thread: Whats in the legacy?

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Mon Jun 09, 2014 11:56 am

I honestly think this is the power of Lebron.... he makes (with the media) people forget what he did. I mean he gets crazy hot for a quarter or two and people say OMG what a game. He gets a big block or his a big shot in the last 5 minutes and its WOW he carried the team. The problem for me is the absolute dismissal of the other guys. The one guy on the Heat that has taken and made the biggest shots during their run has been Bosh but he doesn't exist when LBJ goes for 35. Bron balled last night and the Heat won by TWO points. Duncan hits any of his free throws or parker hits his after getting elbowed in his french gut we are talking about how bron couldn't do it. Instead the Heat win and now the pundits and fans are saying SAS are done. The power of Lebron.
For what it's worth, the Lakers also clinched the Pacific Division, an achievement Bryant dismissed by saying "We don't hang divisions." No, only the big NBA championship banners are considered wall-worthy for the Lakers.
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Re: Official LBJ thread: Whats in the legacy?

Postby John3:16 on Mon Jun 09, 2014 12:34 pm

Remember when Wade didn't suck?

Seriously, Ray Ray looks better out there at 38 then Wade Whistle does. He doesn't have many more years left in him.

Bron had a really nice 2nd half last night. Still think this goes 7 games. Hopefully the San Antonio crowd can help them win.
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Re: Official LBJ thread: Whats in the legacy?

Postby Rooscooter on Mon Jun 09, 2014 3:20 pm

puffyusaf#2 wrote:I honestly think this is the power of Lebron.... he makes (with the media) people forget what he did. I mean he gets crazy hot for a quarter or two and people say OMG what a game. He gets a big block or his a big shot in the last 5 minutes and its WOW he carried the team. The problem for me is the absolute dismissal of the other guys. The one guy on the Heat that has taken and made the biggest shots during their run has been Bosh but he doesn't exist when LBJ goes for 35. Bron balled last night and the Heat won by TWO points. Duncan hits any of his free throws or parker hits his after getting elbowed in his french gut we are talking about how bron couldn't do it. Instead the Heat win and now the pundits and fans are saying SAS are done. The power of Lebron.


Man.... You just don't like the guy and seem to find any opportunity to chop at him. The media picks the player to promote the most based on the leagues whims. Kobe missed his turn because of CO and Nash won 2 bogus MVP's because of it. LeBron is theec leagues best player playing in the finals for the 4th straight year...... That's why he gets the recognition.

As for his play..... Are you saying that he only had one good quarter? Didn't he have only one bad quarter in game one? I don't get it. If Miami wins he gets a "pass".....if they lose he gets a pass ...... Is that it?

They lose by 15+ if he wasn't in that game last night....and your point about Timmy missing FT is spot on..... They lost last year by missing free throws. That is the story and Timmy seems to be the one getting a pass to me. His legacy is Teflon infused but it isn't the first time he's chocked at the line in his career in the big games.
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Re: Official LBJ thread: Whats in the legacy?

Postby John3:16 on Mon Jun 09, 2014 3:25 pm

^^^ Puff hates Bronny Poo as much as me. Maybe more, but that's debatable.
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Re: Official LBJ thread: Whats in the legacy?

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Mon Jun 09, 2014 4:11 pm

I dont hate bron at all. I pose the questions the media seem to fail to discuss. If he is the greatest ever then he absolutely should be looked at closer. Maybe some like to simply go with the flow but as usual I go with what I see not what im told to see. Why is it hating when talking about the 4 year cake walk the heat had to the finals? if bosh misses the big shot and the spurs win what would we say? I dislike the overreaction on oneside and the under reaction on the other side. Call it hate but the questions are valid in my opinion
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Re: Official LBJ thread: Whats in the legacy?

Postby thisbjgz on Mon Jun 09, 2014 4:18 pm

If he can win a 3peat...this most certainly puts his legacy above Kobe's.

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Re: Official LBJ thread: Whats in the legacy?

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Mon Jun 09, 2014 4:58 pm

^and what makes his 3 above kobe?
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Re: Official LBJ thread: Whats in the legacy?

Postby therealdeal on Mon Jun 09, 2014 5:07 pm

Yeah what? :man10:

Kobe still is 5/7 in the Finals last I checked. LeBron right now is 2/4. If he loses then he heads into his 30s with a net negative in the FInals column. If he wins then he's only 3/5 and he's got a ways to go before he gets to 5/7.
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Re: Official LBJ thread: Whats in the legacy?

Postby Doc Brown on Mon Jun 09, 2014 5:34 pm

Only Kobe's legacy depends on, when compared to other great ones, the ring count.

Lebron's is based on, he's the 1st person since ice fishing started to average 27 points, 10 boards, 7 assists, 5 blocks, 4 steals, 3 charges, 2 flops, 1 dunk, while wearing black shoes, in a red jersey, when he's the home team , the temp is 80 degrees and their is a full moon to do this.
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Re: Official LBJ thread: Whats in the legacy?

Postby John3:16 on Mon Jun 09, 2014 5:49 pm

5 >>>> 3
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Re: Official LBJ thread: Whats in the legacy?

Postby The Original 81 on Mon Jun 09, 2014 5:56 pm

Bronnie was aggressive, carried the team when they needed him to, and made the big shots. That's what I want to see from him, I can't discredit his performance last night.

This series is far from over, but man I'm just so used to seeing this team win I can't even imagine them losing.
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Re: Official LBJ thread: Whats in the legacy?

Postby FabFourLakers on Mon Jun 09, 2014 7:12 pm

I do think LBJ will be looked at as the better player overall if he completes the 3-peat...

Hear me out first: Obviously, when Kobe and Shaq 3-peated, Shaq was the finals MVP for all 3 years, although I believe Kobe was the MVP of the western conference playoffs in 2001, so he really should have gotten finals MVP for one of those three years...but is it safe to say that Shaq was the clear alpha leader of that 3-peat squad? And is it safe to say that KOBE was the clear alpha leader of that squad that went back to back in 2009 and 2010? Basically, Kobe has 5 rings, but of those 5, I believe he was the clear alpha leader in 2 of them....and if I wanted to push it, I would say he was the leader in 3 of them if I include 2001.

LeBron, in both championships that he has won, is the clear alpha leader of his team. So as it stands, both LeBron and Kobe have two titles as the CLEAR CUT leaders of their team....which makes this finals very interesting to me...cuz on one hand, if LeBron WINS, it would be tough for me to NOT put him above Kobe, as he'll have THREE to Kobe's TWO as the leader of his team, but if he LOSES, he'll never reach Kobe or MJ, because that'll be THREE losses in the NBA finals in FIVE tries...he'll have a LOSING RECORD in the NBA finals at 2-3!

I really hope LeBron doesn't win this year...because then I feel like he will win at least 2 maybe 3 more championships...and then there will be no question who is better between him and Kobe, and then the MJ comparisons will be valid...i mean if he 3 peats this year, forget about if his career is better than Kobe's career, the "is he better than MJ?" arguments will come back in full force.


But the guy can ball...that's for sure...but like Puffy has said? I don't like the overreaction by the media to what LeBRON does when Chris Bosh has been equally clutch and not to mention Ray Allen's clutch shooting...
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