Official Miami Heat "DreamTeam" Thread: Miami Plan A Success

Official Miami Heat "DreamTeam" Thread: Miami Plan A Success

Postby ShaqDieselLaker on Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:05 pm

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LeBron James to join Chris Bosh, Dwyane Wade with Miami Heat

Pat Riley had to make up ground coming down the homestretch, but the Miami Heat president has secured his triple crown.

LeBron James is coming to South Florida, to join Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh on a team that is poised to jump from NBA also-ran to immediate championship contender.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-heat/sfl-lebron-james-decision-070810,0,5992729.story


LeBron James will choose Miami Heat tonight, according to reports

Multiple reports early this morning said James is planning to join Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh with the Miami Heat. New York Newsday was the first to report James was leaning toward Miami. ESPN also has reported that James is headed to Miami unless he has a "change of heart" before his scheduled announcement at 9 tonight on ESPN.

http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2010/07/lebron_james_will_choose_miami.html

Miami Heat the 'clear frontrunner'

ESPN's Chris Broussard, who broke the Chris Bosh - Dwyane Wade-to-Miami story, called the Miami Heat the 'clear frontrunner' to land LeBron James.

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/38126552/ns/sports-player_news/

Official with team that made a formal presentation to LeBron James tells Y! Sports: "It's down to Cleveland or Miami for him."

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Dwyane Wade(notes) will remain with the Miami Heat and will be joined by Chris Bosh(notes), Chris Broussard reports on Mike & Mike In The Morning.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=A ... chrisboshw

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AlexKennedyNBA: Some are saying that Chris Bosh to the Heat is a done deal. "Other teams can stop making presentations now, he's Miami bound." Likely a S&T. 37 minutes ago via web


ESPN/Miami Herald scribe Dan Le Batard got the ball rolling by tweeting early Wednesday: “I hear bosh-miami is done .. bosh-wade shared agent avoids tampering...its why beasley, chalmers, anthony still here...raptors get them.”

Predictably, even though such an agreement would be highly illegal, the report became accepted as fact by many outlets.

After Raptor and Heat officials denied it, Le Batard admitted on air that it was more an idea he had been hearing than anything definitive.

http://www.torontosun.com/sports/basketball/2010/06/30/14572651.html

Balance&Options24 wrote:Now they want Ray Allen too.......

With a report earlier in the day of how LeBron James and Ray Allen could end up in Cleveland together, it's now being rumored that LeBron has spoken to Allen about playing for less money in Miami.

LeBron is supposedly referring to him, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh as 'Dream Team,' and supposedly has already asked Ray-Ray to join the three of them in Miami. Again, most of this is coming from unnamed sources, but it is starting to feel like Bron, Wade and Bosh all have a plan in place to play together, and if they can get Allen to join the mix, they are going to be very tough to beat.
Source: Miami Herald

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/playerbreakingnews.asp?sport=NBA&id=398&line=137278&spln=1

Report: Bosh sent to Miami via sign-and-trade

Miami-based sports writer Dan LeBatard is reporting that Chris Bosh may be sent to the Heat in a sign-and-trade for Michael Beasley, Mario Chalmers, and Joel Anthony.

So far this is an unconfirmed report, and in any case it cannot become official until the stroke of midnight.

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/38017785/ns/sports-player_news/

AvenLarue wrote:According to Dan LeBatard, a S&T deal between Heat and Raptors has been agreed upon.

I hear bosh-miami is done ..bosh-wade shared agent avoids tampering...its why beasley, chalmers, anthony still here...raptors get them


via his Twitter http://twitter.com/LeBatardShow/status/17417534999


Raptors GM Bryan Colangelo is saying that he doesn't want to lose Bosh for nothing and is happy to set up a sign-and-trade scenario so his team can get some compensation. If Bosh decides to go to join Wade with the Heat, the Raptors will likely ask for young forward Michael Beasley(notes) and point guard Mario Chalmers

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/rumors/post/Bosh-and-Wade-meeting-teams-together-?urn=nba,252475

Update:
The Miami Herald's Dan LeBatard says he hears that a Bosh to Miami trade is "done."

Recommendation:
Rumors continue to swirl around Bosh and a lot still has to happen before we can know anything for sure, but LeBatard is pretty plugged into the South Florida sports scene so this is one rumor to pay some attention to.

http://www.rotowire.com/Chris-Bosh-googid129462-spnba.htm

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LeBron, Wade, Bosh talk of splitting Heat cash

The South Florida Sun Sentinel has learned that the three star free agents have gone as far as to acknowledge that it might not be possible for the Heat to clear the needed space to start each of the three at the $16.6 million maximum salary that they would be eligible for in the first year of new contracts.

According to the source, the three have agreed to consider to "split the money up," if need be.

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/06/lebron-wade-bosh-talk-of-splitting-heat-cash.html

Wade optimistic Heat can land LeBron, Bosh

The starting gate of NBA free agency is about to burst open.

The Miami Heat just might win a triple crown.

A source close to Dwyane Wade said the Heat guard believes his team is poised to pull off a free-agency coup of landing himself, Cleveland Cavaliers guard LeBron James and Toronto Raptors forward Chris Bosh.

However that same source, as well as a party inside the league, said Wade also plans to cover himself during the initial days of the free-agency negotiating period by scheduling interviews with the Bulls, New York Knicks and, in somewhat of a surprise, the Dallas Mavericks.
While the Knicks and Bulls, like the Heat, have the salary-cap space to sign multiple top-tier free agents, the Mavericks do not have available cap space this offseason and would need to complete a sign-and-trade agreement with the Heat to add Wade.

In addition, while there has been speculation that a James arrival in South Florida would mean Pat Riley again returning to coach the team, a party close to Wade indicated that James would be receptive to working with Erik Spoelstra, who is scheduled to begin his third season as Heat coach.

While free-agent negotiations are allowed to begin July 1, teams are not allowed to reach binding free-agent agreements until July 8.

Although speculation on a Wade-James-Bosh pairing has centered on each of the three taking less than maximum salaries to make the math work, one NBA team executive told the Sun Sentinel Monday that it was his belief that not all of the players involved are receptive to such an approach.

Regardless, in order to accommodate Wade and two other signings near their maximum free-agent salary of roughly $16.6 million, the Heat would have to trade second-year forward Michael Beasley. A league executive said he felt Riley, in his role as Heat president, would be able to find such a suitor on short notice, if he does not already have one lined up.

Counting a re-signed Wade, the Heat currently has roughly $27 million available in salary-cap space, with Beasley still on its 2010-11 payroll. There also is a chance of adjusting the buyout of forward James Jones, which could slightly boost the amount of available salary-cap space. Jones must be waived or traded by Wednesday for the non-buyout portion of his 2010-11 salary not to count against the salary cap.

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/06/report-wade-hopeful-heat-can-land-lebron-bosh.html


The Miami Plan -- or the Miami Astound Machine, if you will -- is as dangerous as it is fascinating. And we don't just mean on the court.

With the salary-cap space that the Heat cleared in the days leading up to last week's Draft -- and with another roster tweak, such as unloading Michael Beasley and his contract, or with a wink-wink, slightly-less-than-"max" adjustment on the part of the targeted titans -- Miami would be positioned to sign not one, not two but three of the marquee names hitting the market Thursday at 12:01 a.m. EDT.

The anchor piece, of course, would be Wade, who already has what a lot of these 2010 free agents will be seeking as they shop for teams in the coming crazy days: A championship ring. Coincidence, then, that among the top-tier guys, the Heat shooting guard is the one likeliest to stay put? Hardly. Wade doesn't need a new team, a new organization, a new approach. He just needs renewed ones, on all those fronts.

That's where Miami president Pat Riley comes in, with all his glamour and intensity and pedigree and power-breakfast speaking skills. Air-dropping Riley into Akron, Ohio, to make the sales presentation to James before or after Riley's rivals from New York, New Jersey, Chicago or the L.A. Clippers make theirs seems like unleashing a pit bull in the poodle salon. None of the others has done what Riley has done or gone where he's gone, and most of that is precisely what James claims to want to do and where he wants to go.
Let's pause for a moment to appreciate the wonderfulness, or at least significance, of this. While that core couldn't necessarily be classified as the NBA's three best players uniting to kick the rest of the league's butts -- you probably would want James, Kobe Bryant and Dwight Howard for ultimate formidability -- it would be close enough. Closer, certainly, than this league ever has seen before, with the possible exception of a few of Bill Russell's Celtics teams.
As a basketball experiment, it would be fascinating to see the Xs and Os brought to life by such remarkable talents. Who would initiate the action? How would their skills mesh? Where would the outside shooting come from? Then again, with double-teams demanded at three spots, simple math says there would be 2 ½ guys left mostly open much of the time.

As chemistry and psychology experiments, we could learn much about the dynamics of ego, the power of sacrifice and the ingredients needed to bind together such strong personalities. What would the pecking order be? We pretty much know who'd be No. 3, but how would Nos. 1 and 2 get divvied up? Would Wade have squatter's rights because it was his town first? If so, what's higher in the royal flow-chart than King?

As a financial experiment, we might finally get to see how the New York Yankees' methodology of team-building works in pro basketball. The NBA largely has been protected from that by its salary cap, but this would be as close as a hoops team can get to opening the wallet for the best of the best.


Read the rest here: http://www.nba.com/2010/news/features/steve_aschburner/06/28/trio.in.miami/
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Postby schleprok on Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:11 pm

This wouldn't work.. If they do team up and win like 5 rings then LeBron will only be known as the guy who couldn't win a ring by himself. He could only win with another hall of famer. Can he really stand for that? When the Bulls won in the 90s, Pippen was clearly second to MJ, so who's going to be second on this team? I can't see either player willingly going through the rest of their prime as the second best.

Oh, and who does the coach draw the play up for when it's tied with 5 seconds left? If Bron loses the game then Wade won't be happy that he didn't get the ball and vice-versa.
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Postby nameant on Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:15 pm

I can easily see Wade stepping down and allowing LBJ to be the "#1 guy". Why? B/c Wade has been to the top. Once you go to the top and fall back down, it hurts and it makes you want to get back to the top that much more. It's basically what Kobe went through. It's like a guy going 5-6 years w/o sex versus a virgin. The virgin has it easier b/c he doesn't know what he's missing. The guy who's gone 5-6 years has gotten a taste and knows what it's like, so it's that much tougher to go without.
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Postby ShaqDieselLaker on Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:17 pm

^^The Boston Celtics' blueprint to winning.

I think Lebron will consider two things only: money which comes through building his brand and most importantly, championships, because without them his brand will suffer. He wants to be a billionaire and he has to see what will get him there. If he continues to lose in the playoffs or comes up short his brand will suffer more than it would if he teamed up with other stars.

A Miami-LA Finals would FUN to watch. It would be like King Kong vs. Godzilla.
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Postby Weezy on Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:26 pm

I like the NBA how it is now, stars spread out making games exciting. Where's the fun if 3 of the game's best players are all on one team? Then there's basically like 2 teams that can win it all, instead of multiple teams, there's no drama in the playoffs, it's lame. For that reason and because that team would be dangerous I hope it doesn't happen.
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Postby ShaqDieselLaker on Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:29 pm

Heat’s max offer goes farther because Florida has no state income tax, while Illinois has a state income tax of 3 percent. That might hardly seem worth mentioning when you’re dealing with $100 million contracts, but then, that becomes a lot of money when you’re dealing with $100 million contracts. What’s more, people around the NBA hear players mention it more often than you think.

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/rosenblog/2010/06/a-potentially-taxing-part-of-the-lebron-saga.html
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Postby ShaqDieselLaker on Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:37 pm

Weezy wrote:I like the NBA how it is now, stars spread out making games exciting. Where's the fun if 3 of the game's best players are all on one team? Then there's basically like 2 teams that can win it all, instead of multiple teams, there's no drama in the playoffs, it's lame. For that reason and because that team would be dangerous I hope it doesn't happen.

We knew that the Dream Team was going to beat every other national team in the Olympics but people tuned in to see greatness in action. The same thing with the Bulls dynasty: Jordan, Pippen, Rodman. Look at how the NY Yankees buy an All Star team every year and yet people love to watch baseball. These sorts of All Star like teams bring hype which draws the attention of non-basketball fans to see what all the fuss is about.

The competition may become boring but nevertheless, watching dominance can be fun. Expectations would be high as well, so people would be watching to see if anyone could beat them.
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Postby thkthebest on Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:38 pm

I don't see LeBron going to Miami. That's Wade's team.
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Postby 432J on Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:53 pm

the only guy i see going to miami is stoudemire
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Postby bruddahmanmatt on Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:36 pm

nameant wrote:I can easily see Wade stepping down and allowing LBJ to be the "#1 guy". Why? B/c Wade has been to the top. Once you go to the top and fall back down, it hurts and it makes you want to get back to the top that much more. It's basically what Kobe went through. It's like a guy going 5-6 years w/o sex versus a virgin. The virgin has it easier b/c he doesn't know what he's missing. The guy who's gone 5-6 years has gotten a taste and knows what it's like, so it's that much tougher to go without.


First, consider what's happening. LBJ is leaving HIS team to go and play for SOMEONE ELSE'S team. That automatically makes Lebron the guy who's latching on, not the other way around.

On top of that, as far as Wade stepping aside for Lebron, NO...WAY. Miami is Wade's team. If LBJ goes to Miami he's going to Wade's building. No friggin' way Dwyane Wade lets LBJ come into his house and assume the role of alpha dog. The only time you even begin to fathom stepping down as team leader is when you're close to retirement. Wade still has more than half a decade left to play and he's not gonna go out as the guy who relinquished his command to another in order to take home a few championships. He wants to be the guy others came to play with (read: Kobe Bryant).

And speaking of Kobe, he's won five rings. You think he'd let Lebron come here and take over as leader? Are you out of your mind? Anyone who goes to Miami is playing for Dwyane Wade. Not alongside him, not with him, for him. No matter how you slice it people will look back and say "Wade stayed, the others flew South".

And dude, that sex analogy...I'm sure I'm not the only one who's raisin' an eyebrow. lol :man10:



Weezy wrote:I like the NBA how it is now, stars spread out making games exciting. Where's the fun if 3 of the game's best players are all on one team? Then there's basically like 2 teams that can win it all, instead of multiple teams, there's no drama in the playoffs, it's lame. For that reason and because that team would be dangerous I hope it doesn't happen.


Oh the irony. This coming from a Lakers fan? You're kidding right? This is exactly what fans of 29 other teams say whenever the Lakers make a big move. LA has often been home to a pair, a trio, hell sometimes a quartet of the league's best players who are capable of flat out dominating virtually every other team out there. Showtime with Magic, Kareem and Worthy (not to mention Coop, Scott, Norm, Green etc...), Shaq and Kobe, and now Kobe and Gasol. If Bynum were able to stay healthy it wouldn't even be fair. No offense man, but we as Laker fans really have no right to complain about other teams stacking talent. This franchise has been doing it a lot longer than anyone else. In fact it's because of LA and the Gasol trade that so many teams have been pushing to "catch up" over the past few years. Blame LA and their continued success for pi*sing everyone else off and forcing them to make big moves I say. :man10:
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Postby Iceberg Slim on Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:58 pm

All this, "who's team", "who takes the last shot", "who's the alpha-male" blabber doesn't concern me. If Pat Riley is coaching, he will be the alpha-male. Why? Because they take orders from him and his orders lead to championships. Plain and simple. Few coaches can check ego's at the door and keep them honest. Pat Riley is one of them. A leader of men.

The situation can work if and only if the players buy in. They will have to do what the Boston Celtics did. Come together for success, before its too late.

I will say this...it wouldn't last long. Lebron cares about his numbers, I believe. He wants to be the combination of Oscar, Michael, and Magic in the stat book. I can't knock him. Its how we measure legends outside of their championships. Once he's gets one in Miami (if it happens) he will bolt for his own team.
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Postby ShaqDieselLaker on Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:36 pm

Stephen A., on his radio show said that his source, a person that hasn't been wrong for 15 years told him Lebron and Bosh are going to Miami.

Let's see who is right, but if this happens, we will have a great challenger for our title.
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Postby ShaqDieselLaker on Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:39 pm

Iceberg Slim wrote:All this, "who's team", "who takes the last shot", "who's the alpha-male" blabber doesn't concern me. If Pat Riley is coaching, he will be the alpha-male. Why? Because they take orders from him and his orders lead to championships. Plain and simple. Few coaches can check ego's at the door and keep them honest. Pat Riley is one of them. A leader of men.

The situation can work if and only if the players buy in. They will have to do what the Boston Celtics did. Come together for success, before its too late.

I will say this...it wouldn't last long. Lebron cares about his numbers, I believe. He wants to be the combination of Oscar, Michael, and Magic in the stat book. I can't knock him. Its how we measure legends outside of their championships. Once he's gets one in Miami (if it happens) he will bolt for his own team.

You are right on about Pat Riley. He demands that kind of respect from everyone, he is the best coach Lebron could get and they get that great coach in-house. No other team can give them that.
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Postby gill on Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:48 pm

Nice! Miami's in the process of making a full time, regular season Eastern All-Star team!
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Postby Venti Quattro on Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:58 pm

Stephen A. Smith is a joke. On his radio show he said that the Heat can sign LeBron James and Chris Bosh to max deals and then sign Dwayne Wade to a max deal and be allowed to go over the salary cap because he is their own free agent. It's just absurd that a basketball "insider" has no clue how the salary cap works.
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Postby GinoDB on Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:00 pm

ShaqDieselLaker wrote:^^The Boston Celtics' blueprint to winning.

I think Lebron will consider two things only: money which comes through building his brand and most importantly, championships, because without them his brand will suffer. He wants to be a billionaire and he has to see what will get him there. If he continues to lose in the playoffs or comes up short his brand will suffer more than it would if he teamed up with other stars.

A Miami-LA Finals would FUN to watch. It would be like King Kong vs. Godzilla.


King Kong would get owned, King Kong can climb on top of buildings but Godzilla is just as big as the building
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Postby GinoDB on Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:02 pm

Venti Quattro wrote:Stephen A. Smith is a joke. On his radio show he said that the Heat can sign LeBron James and Chris Bosh to max deals and then sign Dwayne Wade to a max deal and be allowed to go over the salary cap because he is their own free agent. It's just absurd that a basketball "insider" has no clue how the salary cap works.

Im ok with being proven wrong but Im pretty sure Stephen A is right on this one
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Postby Furious Laker on Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:13 pm

Whatever happens it is gonna be fun seeing the Cavs board go into complete meltdown mode when Lebron doesn't sign with Cleveland. They are in complete denial over there.

Lebron's ego is too big to keep him in a small market town.
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Postby jimbo327 on Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:21 pm

It's certainly possible. I think that Wade and Lebron doesn't need the max money from a bball contract with all of the Nike/Gatorade/etc productst they are representing.

I hope it doesn't happen because it is must better that they spread out in the East, and beat up on each other until the Lakers take the championship in the Finals. :jam2:
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Re: The Miami Plan: LBJ, D-Wade, Bosh, & Pat Riley

Postby bruddahmanmatt on Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:23 pm

Iceberg Slim wrote:All this, "who's team", "who takes the last shot", "who's the alpha-male" blabber doesn't concern me. If Pat Riley is coaching, he will be the alpha-male. Why? Because they take orders from him and his orders lead to championships. Plain and simple. Few coaches can check ego's at the door and keep them honest. Pat Riley is one of them. A leader of men.

The situation can work if and only if the players buy in. They will have to do what the Boston Celtics did. Come together for success, before its too late.

I will say this...it wouldn't last long. Lebron cares about his numbers, I believe. He wants to be the combination of Oscar, Michael, and Magic in the stat book. I can't knock him. Its how we measure legends outside of their championships. Once he's gets one in Miami (if it happens) he will bolt for his own team.


It might not concern you, but you better believe it concerns Miami. LBJ has always been a player that cares about what others think of him. It's why he faked an elbow injury this postseason. It's why he behaved like a drama queen and made a big speech about MJ when asked about his jersey number. It's why he proposed a free agency tour which thankfully never happened. A coach (even a great one like Riley) can only do so much in terms of keeping player egos in check. At some point, it's no longer in the coach's hands and it's up to the players to decide whether or not their individual achievements or goals are more important than the team. Someone's name is always going to come first. You're kidding yourself if you don't think that LBJ wants his name to be spoken before his teammates, and you're kidding yourself if you think Wade is going to let that happen, Pat Riley or no Pat Riley.

Remember Game 3 of the '94 ECSFs between the Bulls and the Knicks? What was that about great coaches always being able to keep player egos in check? In a playoff game no less.
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Re: The Miami Plan: LBJ, D-Wade, Bosh, & Pat Riley

Postby Venti Quattro on Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:30 pm

GinoDB wrote:
Venti Quattro wrote:Stephen A. Smith is a joke. On his radio show he said that the Heat can sign LeBron James and Chris Bosh to max deals and then sign Dwayne Wade to a max deal and be allowed to go over the salary cap because he is their own free agent. It's just absurd that a basketball "insider" has no clue how the salary cap works.

Im ok with being proven wrong but Im pretty sure Stephen A is right on this one


I am 100% sure and am willing to bet my car on the fact that Miami can't do that.

As of July 1st, if the salary cap is indeed $56.1 million as projected, the Miami Heat situation is as follows assuming they renounce the rights to everyone but Dwayne Wade:

Beasley - $4,962,240
Chalmers - $854,389
Jones - I'm not sure so, I'm using $0.

Wade - $23,669,869.50 (hold)
Player 5 - $473,604 (hold)
Player 6 - $473,604 (hold)
Player 7 - $473,604 (hold)
Player 8 - $473,604 (hold)
Player 9 - $473,604 (hold)
Player 10 - $473,604 (hold)
Player 11 - $473,604 (hold)
Player 12 - $473,604 (hold)

That's $5,816,629 in salaries and $27,458,701.50 in holds, totaling $33,275,330.50 in cap space used and $22,824,669.50 remaining to sign free agents.

Once max free agent #1 is signed:

Beasley - $4,962,240
Chalmers - $854,389
Jones - I'm not sure so, I'm using $0.
MAX #1 - $16,830,000

Wade - $23,669,869.50 (hold)
Player 6 - $473,604 (hold)
Player 7 - $473,604 (hold)
Player 8 - $473,604 (hold)
Player 9 - $473,604 (hold)
Player 10 - $473,604 (hold)
Player 11 - $473,604 (hold)
Player 12 - $473,604 (hold)

That's $22,646,629 in salaries and $26,985,097.50 in holds, totaling $49,631,726.50 in cap space used and $6,468,273.50 remaining to sign free agents.

Now, Wade must be signed to remove his monster cap hold.

Beasley - $4,962,240
Chalmers - $854,389
Jones - I'm not sure so, I'm using $0.
MAX #1 - $16,830,000
Wade - $16,830,000

Player 6 - $473,604 (hold)
Player 7 - $473,604 (hold)
Player 8 - $473,604 (hold)
Player 9 - $473,604 (hold)
Player 10 - $473,604 (hold)
Player 11 - $473,604 (hold)
Player 12 - $473,604 (hold)

That's $39,476,629 in salaries and $3,315,228 in holds, totaling $42,791,857 in cap space used and $13,308,143 remaining to sign free agents.

That's $3,048,253 short of a third max deal, and this is using $0 as Jones' number.
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Re: The Miami Plan: LBJ, D-Wade, Bosh, & Pat Riley

Postby The Rock on Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:35 pm

Chris Bosh ain't returning to Toronto
http://tinyurl.com/25jb9r3
It's far from surprising news, but Chris Bosh's free agency has now become official. After missing the playoffs with the Toronto Raptors last season, forward Chris Bosh has decided to opt out of his contract, making him an unrestricted free agent on July 1st.

Raptors GM Brian Coangelo sat down for an interview with Toronto's Fan 590 on Monday. During the interview, Coangelo revealed that Bosh has officially opted out of his contract. Coangelo then went on to say that he feels it is "likely" that Bosh will leave. Coangelo gave the impression that the Raptors are now hoping to lose Bosh in a sign-and-trade rather than free agency, but sounded less than confident that the Raptors will be able to do even that. At one point, a frustrated Coangelo revealed that he has had a difficult time even making contact with Bosh this off-season.

Bosh's departure from Toronto is all but a foregone conclusion at this point; even so, it's interesting to hear the general manager of his former team all but admit that his team's best player will not be returning next season. To listen to the full interview, which includes Coangelo giving his thoughts on possible tampering and what the team plans to do with Hedo Turkoglu, click the link.
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Re: The Miami Plan: LBJ, D-Wade, Bosh, & Pat Riley

Postby laakers on Mon Jun 28, 2010 5:01 pm

if this happened, damn. big 3 all over again, except this time they are all better than the other player (except kg-bosh matchup) but they are in their primes! this wont work as well as the celtics because of the fact that these 3 arent chasing rings yet like allen pierce and garnett.

also, if this happened, the media would be all over it. nicknames, interviews, they would try to keep the 3 together like they are superheroes.
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Re: The Miami Plan: LBJ, D-Wade, Bosh, & Pat Riley

Postby abeer3 on Mon Jun 28, 2010 5:18 pm

i love how we have about 5 separate lead pipe lock guarantees, each claiming a different destination for lebron.
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Re: The Miami Plan: LBJ, D-Wade, Bosh, & Pat Riley

Postby ShaqDieselLaker on Mon Jun 28, 2010 5:57 pm

Venti Quattro wrote:
That's $3,048,253 short of a third max deal, and this is using $0 as Jones' number.

These FAs gave up 600,000 simply by going into free agency instead of signing on with their own teams. Florida taxes are also much lower and 3mil is not a number these FAs couldn't make elsewhere. Also, Miami isn't done wheeling and dealing yet, I think. Should be interesting.
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