Other NBA Games Discussion 2012-2013 Edition

Re: Other NBA Games Discussion 2012-2013 Edition

Postby wcsoldier81 on Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:56 am

Forward Three wrote:This is why I don't think Miami can repeat this year. Yes, they got the W tonight against Portland, but they've let a lot of winnable games slide this year overall as well as just looked surprisingly vulnerable to 'bad'/average teams(yes, including the Lakers). Maybe it's because they are coasting through the regular season and they'll hit 5th gear in the post season, but maybe it's also complacency as well as teams having made adjustments and put a target on their back.


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Re: Other NBA Games Discussion 2012-2013 Edition

Postby KB24 on Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:07 am

I have never seen someone do what LeBron is doing right now. Its a different way of amazing compared to lets say Kobe's 9 game 40 point stretch...

how the guy is scoring 30 points every game on 15 shots is crazy and its not like he doesn't rebound, play D and set up his teammates. LeBron right now is my perfect player.

If I could make a perfect player, I would take this current LeBron. Its easy to build around because he adjusts to all styles, its also efficient beyond belief, its consistent as hell. LeBron is doing right now what I always wanted Kobe to do. Let the game come to him rather than forcing the matter.

I still hate LeBron though, he is a douche.
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Re: Other NBA Games Discussion 2012-2013 Edition

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:49 pm

^how many Free throws is he getting a game?
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Re: Other NBA Games Discussion 2012-2013 Edition

Postby lakers_09tv on Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:30 pm

KB24 wrote:I have never seen someone do what LeBron is doing right now. Its a different way of amazing compared to lets say Kobe's 9 game 40 point stretch...

how the guy is scoring 30 points every game on 15 shots is crazy and its not like he doesn't rebound, play D and set up his teammates. LeBron right now is my perfect player.

If I could make a perfect player, I would take this current LeBron. Its easy to build around because he adjusts to all styles, its also efficient beyond belief, its consistent as hell. LeBron is doing right now what I always wanted Kobe to do. Let the game come to him rather than forcing the matter.

I still hate LeBron though, he is a douche.

Well said. Lebron never forces the issue, never has an off game and always makes the right decision. Lebron has perfected the game of basketball. He has no weakness. Dude is unbelievable. Best player I've seen in the last 15 years.
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Re: Other NBA Games Discussion 2012-2013 Edition

Postby therealdeal on Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:43 pm

KB24 wrote:I have never seen someone do what LeBron is doing right now. Its a different way of amazing compared to lets say Kobe's 9 game 40 point stretch...

how the guy is scoring 30 points every game on 15 shots is crazy and its not like he doesn't rebound, play D and set up his teammates. LeBron right now is my perfect player.

If I could make a perfect player, I would take this current LeBron. Its easy to build around because he adjusts to all styles, its also efficient beyond belief, its consistent as hell. LeBron is doing right now what I always wanted Kobe to do. Let the game come to him rather than forcing the matter.

I still hate LeBron though, he is a douche.

I actually don't hate him as much anymore. He's a Champion. As far as I'm concerned all the talk is warranted. Maybe not all, but at least a lot of the credit.

I hate Wade quite a bit more. Wade is a Robin who thinks he's a Batman. LeBron is a Batman that didn't want to be a Batman at first. :man10:
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Re: Other NBA Games Discussion 2012-2013 Edition

Postby Chillbongo on Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:14 pm

He was Bruce Wayne! :man1:

Agreed except Robin is too cool. Wouldn't want to liken him to D-Whistle.

The LeBron thing to me is fine...he's the s***....I just don't want Jordan comparisons. He's not there yet. Not even close.
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Re: Other NBA Games Discussion 2012-2013 Edition

Postby Doc Brown on Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:59 pm

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Re: Other NBA Games Discussion 2012-2013 Edition

Postby abeer3 on Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:56 pm

therealdeal wrote:I actually don't hate him as much anymore. He's a Champion. As far as I'm concerned all the talk is warranted. Maybe not all, but at least a lot of the credit.

I hate Wade quite a bit more. Wade is a Robin who thinks he's a Batman. LeBron is a Batman that didn't want to be a Batman at first. :man10:


yeah, doucheness is relative. wade's such a huge douche that lebron actually seems tolerable. also, he's like five times the player wade is, so it's a lot easier for me to accept his super duper stardom.

he's been ridiculous the past two years. enough that durant's amazing career year looks pedestrian in comparison. enough that i'm not all that bummed about the lakers not being good this year because they'd still get demolished by miami in the finals were they to get there.
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Re: Other NBA Games Discussion 2012-2013 Edition

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:53 pm

lakers_09tv wrote:Well said. Lebron never forces the issue, never has an off game and always makes the right decision. Lebron has perfected the game of basketball. He has no weakness. Dude is unbelievable. Best player I've seen in the last 15 years.


I know it is love-feast Lebron on CL but seriously? This post is one paycheck shy of getting the LBJ tattoo. The best player you have seen in the last 15 years? Damn, how the universe has turned upside down. Wow.
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Re: Other NBA Games Discussion 2012-2013 Edition

Postby therealdeal on Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:01 am

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therealdeal wrote:I actually don't hate him as much anymore. He's a Champion. As far as I'm concerned all the talk is warranted. Maybe not all, but at least a lot of the credit.

I hate Wade quite a bit more. Wade is a Robin who thinks he's a Batman. LeBron is a Batman that didn't want to be a Batman at first. :man10:


yeah, doucheness is relative. wade's such a huge douche that lebron actually seems tolerable. also, he's like five times the player wade is, so it's a lot easier for me to accept his super duper stardom.

he's been ridiculous the past two years. enough that durant's amazing career year looks pedestrian in comparison. enough that i'm not all that bummed about the lakers not being good this year because they'd still get demolished by miami in the finals were they to get there.

I think if we were healthy and if we were clicking the way we should have been clicking months ago, we'd give any team a run for their money. I'm not saying we'd win or that we'd even push the series to 7. But every game would be close. Yes they have LeBron, but outside of him I'm not exactly frightened by anything. Wade's inconsistency doesn't scare me. Bosh is almost an afterthought at this point. And the rest of their team is nothing to me.

Knowing how hungry Kobe is for that 6th ring... every game would be close. He wouldn't let it be another way.
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Re: Other NBA Games Discussion 2012-2013 Edition

Postby ramsay13 on Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:22 am

During the 6 game streak LBJ had. His FTM-A (in no particular order)
7-8, 7-8, 8-11, 7-10, 5-6, 9-12
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Re: Other NBA Games Discussion 2012-2013 Edition

Postby JoelMyersScrotalSack on Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:37 am

puffyusaf#2 wrote:
lakers_09tv wrote:Well said. Lebron never forces the issue, never has an off game and always makes the right decision. Lebron has perfected the game of basketball. He has no weakness. Dude is unbelievable. Best player I've seen in the last 15 years.


I know it is love-feast Lebron on CL but seriously? This post is one paycheck shy of getting the LBJ tattoo. The best player you have seen in the last 15 years? Damn, how the universe has turned upside down. Wow.


Peak Shaq from 99-01 is the only player I would take over LeBron right now in the last 15 years
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Re: Other NBA Games Discussion 2012-2013 Edition

Postby FabFourLakers on Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:42 pm

Yeah i didnt know you coudl become the best player that ever lived by winning ONE CHAMPIONSHIP in a SHORTENED season where if CHRIS BOSH hadn't come back in the Boston series, the CELTICS woulda been in the finals.

Sorry guys, I hate to be THAT guy, but I'm not gonna join the LeBron Love Fest just yet. He still has A LOT to prove and before people crown him better than MJ, he's gotta win a championship in a non-shortened season, and he's probably gotta 3-peat TWICE before being mentioned in the same BREATH as MJ...oh and there's still that Kobe guy who 3-peated once and then won back to back...none of that san antonio spurs crap of winning one year and taking the next off and then winning again....LeBron is definitely the best player in the league right now but holy crap can we calm down on the overreactions about how great he is? Jesus.
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Re: Other NBA Games Discussion 2012-2013 Edition

Postby Chillbongo on Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:06 pm

FabFourLakers wrote:He still has A LOT to prove and before people crown him better than MJ, he's gotta win a championship in a non-shortened season, and he's probably gotta 3-peat TWICE before being mentioned in the same BREATH as MJ...oh and there's still that Kobe guy who 3-peated once and then won back to back...none of that san antonio spurs crap of winning one year and taking the next off and then winning again....LeBron is definitely the best player in the league right now but holy crap can we calm down on the overreactions about how great he is? Jesus.


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Re: Other NBA Games Discussion 2012-2013 Edition

Postby purp n gold on Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:46 pm

Of course LeBron has to win multiple rings before we put him up there with Kobe or MJ. However, resume /accomplishments are one part of a players legacy.

We all watch basketball and we know a dominant player when we see one. LeBron is at that point and no one is close, not even Durant.

I agree with JoelMyersScrotalSack with the 15 years comment. I take Shaq 99-01 over LeBron 12-13, and then probably Kobe 06-07 in third.
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Re: Other NBA Games Discussion 2012-2013 Edition

Postby nameant on Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:07 pm

Everywhere I go on this board we're talking about LBJ. Wow.
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Re: Other NBA Games Discussion 2012-2013 Edition

Postby tigerjeterkobe on Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:16 pm

Watching the Heat destroy and embarrass the Thunder, in OKC, makes me wonder -- how in the world were we tied with them at half and withing a possession of them in the 4th -- IN Miami?

Same at Staples -- we were tied at 90 with just a few minutes to play.

The Heat are so systematic and well run. like the Spurs but with better athletes.

With guys like Metta, Blake, and Gasol, we should never operate or run like those teams. Yet, we had chances to beat both the Heat and Spurs. I hate Lebron, but damn...must give props....
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Re: Other NBA Games Discussion 2012-2013 Edition

Postby Doc Brown on Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:28 pm

So Wade throws the ball at Collison after he takes a charge on him, Collison takes the ball and throws it in Wade's "general" direction and guess who gets the T?

Collison....

Not the guy who actually threw a ball and hit someone with it, the other guy. :freak2:
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Re: Other NBA Games Discussion 2012-2013 Edition

Postby dwighthowardsdad on Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:12 pm

Jeff Green plays solid defense on Lebron & better then anyone on OKC right now. You think OKC would go back and have a redo on that Perkins trade? Also, you can tell they miss Harden. From what I seen tonight, OKC will not beat Miami in a 7 game series. They actually regressed from last year...
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Re: Other NBA Games Discussion 2012-2013 Edition

Postby Finwë on Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:19 am

I'm telling you, if it's a finals rematch, OKC is going down again. They haven't learned or changed ANYTHING from last years' finals it seems.
Brooks is just a terrible coach. He has them just running ISO after ISO and putting up jumpers like crazy. He's still going with Perkins even though he literally does not contribute AT ALL. The only justification for Perkins getting minutes is to defend the Bynums and Howards and other centers that play back to the basket in the L. Miami couldn't be farther (or further?) from that. He has no offensive game (and despite this he insists on getting touches on the block sometimes, ugh), so his presence is inexplicable. It also puts Ibaka on Battier, that is, far from the paint where he can block shots.
If I was Brooks, I'd run this lineup in important stretches:
Westbrook-Martin-Sefolosha-Durant-Ibaka. You can switch everything on D (though you're better off putting Martin on Battier or someone like that and not having switch on neither LeBron or Wade), every guy can hit shots, you can run with them, you put Ibaka back in the paint defensively...
I'd start Perkins only to give the ****er some satisfaction, but wouldn't play him more than 8 minutes, if that, honestly. I'd roll with Collison instead.
I mean it's so obvious that Perkins is a negative against Miami. Is he scared of him or something?

If we don't want Miami to repeat (I definitely don't want that), I think SAS is the candidate to beat them. Maybe, maybe, the Clippers, but CP3 would have to be amazing, Griffin would have to play very well, and they would have to make their 3s. I think SAS has the best chance, they are the more experienced team, they have the best coach in the game, they move the ball like no other team in the league, their role players always step up...
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Re: Other NBA Games Discussion 2012-2013 Edition

Postby FabFourLakers on Fri Feb 15, 2013 5:36 am

OKC is a very well coached team...except when they play the Miami Heat. I've been saying it for a while but the OKC Thunder are going to regret that Perkins/Green trade more than EVER this year. Perkins is literally USELESS against MOST teams, and yet the one team he does NOT match up with at ALL, he plays the most against? He shouldn't even see the FLOOR against Miami. He can't guard Bosh. He can't defend LeBron when he drives in the paint. Also, Ibaka is rendered useless on D with Perkins in there.

LeBron was unreal, but I think it was just OKC's stupidity with their lineups that they used...any time they took Perkins out, they played MUCH better on both ends and Durant also had more room to operate.
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Re: Other NBA Games Discussion 2012-2013 Edition

Postby wcsoldier81 on Fri Feb 15, 2013 5:48 am

OKC has not improved offensively as a team for the latest 3 seasons ... individuals just got better .

They still not move the ball from side to side and fail to make extra passes at a comical level ..

Westbrook and Durant drive to the basket , the help is coming .. they still run into the help defender and throwing wild shots , getting called for offensive fouls :man10: :man10:

I know Westbrook ( rightfully so) gets called out for dumb decisions but KD needs to improve his decisions on the court too .. especially against the Heat
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Re: Other NBA Games Discussion 2012-2013 Edition

Postby purp n gold on Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:44 am

FabFourLakers wrote:OKC is a very well coached team...except when they play the Miami Heat. I've been saying it for a while but the OKC Thunder are going to regret that Perkins/Green trade more than EVER this year. Perkins is literally USELESS against MOST teams, and yet the one team he does NOT match up with at ALL, he plays the most against? He shouldn't even see the FLOOR against Miami. He can't guard Bosh. He can't defend LeBron when he drives in the paint. Also, Ibaka is rendered useless on D with Perkins in there.

LeBron was unreal, but I think it was just OKC's stupidity with their lineups that they used...any time they took Perkins out, they played MUCH better on both ends and Durant also had more room to operate.


Agreed on all points. We're a few years removed from the Jeff Green/Perkins trade, so I tend to think "they are who we thought they were", but when you factor in the Harden deal too, OKC is suddenly a little shallow when it comes to perimeter D.

Kev-Mart can score in bunches, but he's exactly that, a one-way offensive player. Now instead of trying to work with a one-way player (Sefolosha) and a two-way player (Harden) - Brooks is trying to shuffle two one-way players (Martin and Sefolosha) along with Perkins (who can't score or defend against the Heat) and now his matchups/rotations are even worse than they were last year in the finals.
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Re: Other NBA Games Discussion 2012-2013 Edition

Postby thkthebest on Fri Feb 15, 2013 2:29 pm

Harden wasn't a two-way player... and I think his defense might even be worse this season since he's been lazy at it.

He's a great player. Actually, he's an awesome player, but his defense has been below average imo.
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Re: Other NBA Games Discussion 2012-2013 Edition

Postby Finwë on Fri Feb 15, 2013 6:48 pm

They are not a very well coached team by any stretch. They just have superior talent than 95% of the league, incredible youth & athleticism, great shooting and very good individual & switching defense.
With a better coach they'be winning titles. Brooks is a mediocre coach.
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