PHIL JACKSON With the Knicks by End of the Week? Pg. 3

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Postby therealdeal on Mon Mar 17, 2014 1:23 pm

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Is Carmelo willing to play defense to win a title for Phil?
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Postby Weezy on Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:41 am

Really enjoying Phil's press's conference right now, I realize it's nostalgia and the guy wasn't perfect here, but I miss having him on the Lakers.
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Postby wcsoldier81 on Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:51 am

^^^^ to each his own .. I prefer listening to " I'm not sure , I will have to go back to the tape" or " size has nothing to do with it , we didn't make enough shots"
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Postby BigDan24 on Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:35 pm

wcsoldier81 wrote:^^^^ to each his own .. I prefer listening to " I'm not sure , I will have to go back to the tape" or " size has nothing to do with it , we didn't make enough shots"

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Postby Battle Tested20 on Tue Mar 18, 2014 5:41 pm

Weezy wrote:Really enjoying Phil's press's conference right now, I realize it's nostalgia and the guy wasn't perfect here, but I miss having him on the Lakers.

I couldn't agree more. It was sort of hard to watch for me.

Listening to that whole Phil Jackson press conference this morning and how Jim Dolan said he was eager and more than willing to give up control to Phil to make all the final basketball decision made me jealous. Phil looked so confident this morning and you could tell that a real leader had entered the building and that good things are coming for the Knicks.

I never really felt this before until after the press conference because I am always been an optimistic when it comes to the Lakers FO, but something tells me we will end up feeling that wrath of PJ for not allowing him to help the Lakers more and be up in our front office.
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Postby lukewaltonsdad on Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:25 pm

NEW YORK – When New York Knicks executives chased free agents in the summer of 2010, owner James Dolan made himself a part of the presentations. He isn't the most engaging, enchanting man, but Dolan does fancy himself a musician. So, yes, there were player and agent meetings four years ago when Dolan delivered a parting gift on the way out of the room.

"He passed out copies of his CD," said a source, who stuffed his copy of one into a bag and no longer remembers where it's gone.

It featured the melodies of JD and the Straight Shot, Dolan's corner-bar band that bought itself into the opening act on tour with the Eagles. Dolan's world revolves around the Eagles, and no one has helped meld his fantasy camp/groupie life of bad teams and super groups more gloriously than notorious ball-busting Eagles business manager Irving Azoff.

Tuesday, here was Azoff, sitting with Glenn Frey at Madison Square Garden, taking bows, in the words of Dolan, for "brokering" and "negotiating" Jackson's $60 million contract with the Knicks. It prompted Dolan to declare himself out of the business of the basketball front-office business, mumbling something about, "I am by no means an expert in basketball…"

No kidding. Phil Jackson is the shiny Garden toy, but it remains an act of negligence under Dolan's watch that the Knicks have never pursued the NBA's best front office executives. New York needs an organizational restructuring from top to bottom – from the front office and coaching staffs to public relations people – and Dolan has never been inclined to make a run at the NBA's best builders of programs.

Someone should've informed Dolan that the NBA's best general manager, San Antonio's R.C. Buford, won Frey's celebrity golf tournament in Aspen years ago. Nevertheless, Dolan wanted star power, wanted a connection to the Knicks' championship roots, and Jackson and his 13 championships (two as a player, 11 as a coach) deliver the Garden marquee and news conference caché.

Jackson cut a commanding presence on the podium Tuesday, laying out a clear-eyed vision of the fundamental principles he expects will frame his regime. He deserves a chance to run an organization, but he'll be making a mistake should he simply surround himself with old cronies who've never had success – or even experience – in player personnel jobs.

Jackson has limitless resources to construct a front office, coaching staff and roster. Everything's on him now. Dolan won't be cramping Jackson's style in those big free-agent meetings, because it will be Jackson playing the part of Miami's Pat Riley now. Throwing his rings on the table, selling management credibility born of coaching genius.

And make no mistake: One of the most important things Jackson offered on Tuesday was a nod toward his old Chicago Bulls nemesis and GM, Jerry Krause, whom, he said, set a standard for thoroughness and legwork in the evaluation of talent. All of them mocked Krause, but no one – not Jackson, nor Michael Jordan – would've had multiple titles without him. Or maybe even one.

The NBA is a talent business, and the Knicks' most important asset, Carmelo Anthony, will welcome listening to Jackson's pitch on the future. Anthony heard part of it in the news conference when Jackson went out of his way to suggest the Knicks star's freewheeling, isolation-scoring days are done.

They're going to implement a system here – the triangle offense – and Jackson plans to pursue Steve Kerr to come coach the Knicks. Jackson had convinced Kerr to come to Seattle as his coach, league sources told Yahoo Sports, only to have those plans foiled when a purchase agreement with the Sacramento Kings fell apart.

Anthony has free-agent options, and two have risen above everything else: Chicago and Houston, sources with direct knowledge of his plans told Yahoo Sports. The Bulls have an easier path to clear the necessary salary-cap space to sign Anthony, but the Rockets believe they can shed the contracts necessary to offer a third near-max deals alongside Dwight Howard and James Harden, league sources said.

"He'll give New York every option," one source with knowledge of Anthony's plans told Yahoo Sports on Tuesday. "But he has options – and he's going to explore them all."

Phil Jackson had come back to Madison Square Garden on Tuesday, and the bumbling, meddling owner declared himself out of the basketball business. Dolan had the Eagles and Phil Jackson together at the Garden, a hell of a day in his Richie Rich life.

Someday, Dolan declared, the Knicks would be winning by 30 points and Jackson would let him go into the game. All those scared Garden employees laughed and laughed in the back of the room, and even Jackson cracked a polite smile. Real funny and all, but James Dolan has to understand that he's out of the game for good, that this is Phil Jackson's franchise now, his principles and values and vision in the grandest Garden experiment of all.

For all Phil Jackson cares, Dolan can go sit with the vendors selling those No. 18 Phil Jackson Knicks jerseys and throw in a JD and the Straight Shot CD for free. Just stay out of Zen's way, just get lost now.


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Phil is going to do well in New York...he'll put forth a plan for the next 5 years to show & re-sign Carmelo and impending FA's...there's no doubt in my mind he'll translate his skills, experience, knowledge of the game, and championship pedigree to being a very successful executive in NY; however, do I expect them to win a championship within his 5 years. I don't think so. Nevertheless, he'll give them the much needed credibility it needs right now and to prospective FA's and put them back on a path to contenders status, IMO.
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Postby lukewaltonsdad on Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:26 pm

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Postby dj vitus on Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:00 am

Battle Tested20 wrote:
Weezy wrote:Really enjoying Phil's press's conference right now, I realize it's nostalgia and the guy wasn't perfect here, but I miss having him on the Lakers.

I couldn't agree more. It was sort of hard to watch for me.

Listening to that whole Phil Jackson press conference this morning and how Jim Dolan said he was eager and more than willing to give up control to Phil to make all the final basketball decision made me jealous. Phil looked so confident this morning and you could tell that a real leader had entered the building and that good things are coming for the Knicks.

I never really felt this before until after the press conference because I am always been an optimistic when it comes to the Lakers FO, but something tells me we will end up feeling that wrath of PJ for not allowing him to help the Lakers more and be up in our front office.

:jam2: It just goes to show that sometimes it doesn't matter who has what position in the FO. If someone like Phil Jackson is there, he's gonna have the biggest influence. I'm very happy for him right now, and I wish him and the rising Knicks all the very best.
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Postby LTLakerFan on Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:09 pm

It was really tough seeing him there representing NY and starting his job. Hate this. Really no one at the Lakers we can bring in has that "IT" like Jackson. Or Riley. Unless somehow it was Magic. But if stories are correct Jim was somewhat at least jealous of his dad's affection for Magic. Nice debut for the team…… beat Indiana.

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Postby Rooscooter on Thu Mar 20, 2014 3:34 pm

How long before the younger more athletic guys on NY are gone in favor of big veteran wings? Raja Bell could make a comeback and maybe Grant Hill will take another shot…. :man10:

We'll see if Phil's ideas on personnel jibe with what worked for him in the past. The difference will be that NY doesn't have a prime Kobe or Michael…. they have a copy of a copy and you know what they say about that…. :man10:
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Postby LTLakerFan on Sat Mar 22, 2014 8:20 pm

Can a fat point guard "initiate" the Tri?
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Postby LTLakerFan on Wed Apr 23, 2014 7:22 pm

:man10: Dolan can't help himself, is already questioning some of Jackson's firings. Guessing from some of the comments on the article if you go to the link, maybe they are front office types. Maybe Phil's figured out who the leakers to the press and who the "moles" are for Dolan. "Dun't" know.


Knicks owner James Dolan reportedly meddling with Phil Jackson's decisions
By Kevin Zimmerman  @offensivelyfoul on Apr 23 2014,

According to a report, James Dolan is attempting to stop newly-hired executive Phil Jackson from firing Knicks employees.


Phil Jackson was brought aboard the New York Knicks a month ago with the promise from team owner James Dolan that the legendary coach would have the floor. It was going to be on Jackson to make all of the basketball decisions.

Already, sources of the New York Daily News tell the paper that Dolan and Jackson have gone through a minor disagreement over the new president's "personnel decisions." When Jackson decided to make several firings, Dolan reportedly told his newly-appointed hire to "focus his attention on building a winning team."

It's unclear who Jackson was apparently going to fire or what role these people played. The New York Daily News surmises that Jackson could be attempting to fire employees from the front office -- general manager Steve Mills or assistant general manager Allan Houston are still on board -- as well as in the media relations department or the Knicks' medical staff.

Jackson made his first big moves as president this week when he fired head coach Mike Woodson and the rest of the coaching staff.

And while the report over Dolan's meddling is still vague, it does raise old concerns about the owner. He was known to have a say in the front office decision-making over the last several seasons, for better and often times for worse. Bringing in Jackson gave legitimacy to the basketball operations staff in New York, but if Dolan is still having the last word on personnel decisions, it likely won't bode well for his relationship with Jackson or for the Knicks' future success.



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Postby Battle Tested20 on Wed Apr 23, 2014 9:52 pm

Phil Jackson has already come out and said that report that Dolan is already created waves and taking power over is completely false.

The media is just trying to start something like always :disagree:
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Postby wcsoldier81 on Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:28 am

Great "shot" taken at SAS by Phil ... Sperms fans are mad right now
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Postby LTLakerFan on Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:57 am

:what: I have my forehead pressed against the glass on monitor…..not coming through….what did he say?
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