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Postby d.James on Sat Dec 24, 2005 5:19 am

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SOAD wrote:I don't think they'll beat us. But if you're confident, wanna make a bet? :man1:


Depends on what the bet is.


Temporary change of signatures, the winner will have the honer of making it. How about a month?


I am signature-challenged. If I can out-source it, sure. But what's the exact bet? Is it just the Lakers game or is it the next 10 games?
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Postby SOAD on Sat Dec 24, 2005 3:19 pm

d.James wrote:
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SOAD wrote:I don't think they'll beat us. But if you're confident, wanna make a bet? :man1:


Depends on what the bet is.


Temporary change of signatures, the winner will have the honer of making it. How about a month?


I am signature-challenged. If I can out-source it, sure. But what's the exact bet? Is it just the Lakers game or is it the next 10 games?


I was thinking the Warriors and Lakers game only.
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Postby KB24 on Sat Dec 24, 2005 3:26 pm

Chris Paul is INCREDIBLE, Simply INCREDIBLE. He is a top 5 PG in the game without any doubts. damn
He averages 17/6/7/2.2 and has made a TERRIBLE team into a very solid one. He is a stud´. In 2 years he is the best PG in the league HANDS DOWN. I´m completely sold on him and thats when I was screaming Mitch do something to get Chris Paul here in LA :man5:
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Postby GWHiZiTSPHiL on Sat Dec 24, 2005 4:02 pm

Last night's game:

Chris Kaman
22 points, 22 rebounds

Elton Brand
38 points, 20 rebounds, 5 assists, 3 blocks.
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Postby The Kobe Era 2K5 on Sat Dec 24, 2005 4:12 pm

Elton is having career year, he's playing amazing. 25 ppg, 11 rpg, 2.6 apg and 2.5 bpg! :man4:
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Postby SOAD on Sat Dec 24, 2005 5:22 pm

GWHiZiTSPHiL wrote:Last night's game:

Chris Kaman
22 points, 22 rebounds

Elton Brand
38 points, 20 rebounds, 5 assists, 3 blocks.


Okafor and May weren't playing but it's all good. Clipper fans have nothing to brag about except for regular season stuff anyway. :mhihi:
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Postby GWHiZiTSPHiL on Sun Dec 25, 2005 12:51 am

SOAD wrote:
GWHiZiTSPHiL wrote:Last night's game:

Chris Kaman
22 points, 22 rebounds

Elton Brand
38 points, 20 rebounds, 5 assists, 3 blocks.


Okafor and May weren't playing but it's all good. Clipper fans have nothing to brag about except for regular season stuff anyway. :mhihi:


I'm sorry I didn't know year one and two rookies are difference makers.

Yea, actually that's true and if you don't "brag" about a great win in a regular season game then I better not see any posts from you doing so.
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Postby SOAD on Sun Dec 25, 2005 12:55 am

GWHiZiTSPHiL wrote:
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GWHiZiTSPHiL wrote:Last night's game:

Chris Kaman
22 points, 22 rebounds

Elton Brand
38 points, 20 rebounds, 5 assists, 3 blocks.


Okafor and May weren't playing but it's all good. Clipper fans have nothing to brag about except for regular season stuff anyway. :mhihi:


I'm sorry I didn't know year one and two rookies are difference makers.

Yea, actually that's true and if you don't "brag" about a great win in a regular season game then I better not see any posts from you doing so.


Okafor and May = 15 rpg

It's safe to say the rookie of the year would have made some difference in the one area they got killed in, which happens to be his area of specialty. Rebounding.

And that was not even close to a "GREAT" win. You beat the BOBCATS without their BEST player. Start bragging when you blow out teams like the Mavs.
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Postby GWHiZiTSPHiL on Sun Dec 25, 2005 9:40 am

omg...i didn't even mean it as a "great" win. you're ridiculous if you think it's not worthy of attention with a statline that kaman or brand put up. maybe cuz you're just a simple hater.
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Postby High IQ on Sun Dec 25, 2005 9:43 am

someone please tell Mike Miller what is barbershop. his hair is :hurl:
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Postby GWHiZiTSPHiL on Sun Dec 25, 2005 9:45 am

Shaun Livingston is averaging 8 points and 6 assists off the bench.

Elton Brand is ranked #1 in the NBA in Efficiency Ranking (30.23)


What..will I get HATED on for saying this again? On a freaking thread called random NBA thoughts.
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Postby High IQ on Sun Dec 25, 2005 9:48 am

why Shaun is stuggling? damn I would love to see that guy starting and getting more minutes. btw, who do you think is better Shaun Livingston or Chris Paul?
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Postby SOAD on Sun Dec 25, 2005 5:29 pm

GWHiZiTSPHiL wrote:Shaun Livingston is averaging 8 points and 6 assists off the bench.

Elton Brand is ranked #1 in the NBA in Efficiency Ranking (30.23)


What..will I get HATED on for saying this again? On a freaking thread called random NBA thoughts.


Like omg, everyone is like totally against the Clippers. It's you against the world.

Get over yourself. I never "hated" on the Clippers in THIS thread.
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Postby GWHiZiTSPHiL on Sun Dec 25, 2005 5:44 pm

ok, so you admit that you still hate even though you don't think that it's on this thread? well i never said this thread specifically, i just called you a hater. and yes it is called being a hater when you call out clipper fans just because two of their players have a good game.

don't ever think i'm one of those people who think the world is against me. i'm used to dealing with nonsense with people like you. so you know what, how about YOU get over it? get over the fact that they had a great game. no need to make a useless comment just to instigate.
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Postby SOAD on Sun Dec 25, 2005 7:55 pm

GWHiZiTSPHiL wrote:ok, so you admit that you still hate even though you don't think that it's on this thread? well i never said this thread specifically, i just called you a hater. and yes it is called being a hater when you call out clipper fans just because two of their players have a good game.

don't ever think i'm one of those people who think the world is against me. i'm used to dealing with nonsense with people like you. so you know what, how about YOU get over it? get over the fact that they had a great game. no need to make a useless comment just to instigate.


Um good for them for having a good game but you can't deny they wouldn't have had the same game if Sean May and Okafor were playing. Either way, it doesn't matter to me.
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Postby halekulani on Mon Dec 26, 2005 12:36 am

High IQ wrote:why Shaun is stuggling? damn I would love to see that guy starting and getting more minutes. btw, who do you think is better Shaun Livingston or Chris Paul?


chris paul
shaun is clearly gifted with his height and athleticism, but he's been injured and hasn't had the experience chris has had so far. he could be better in the long run, but that's up to him.

chris is doing an outstanding job for a rookie. he's using every bit of energy to put up those kinds of numbers.
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Postby d.James on Mon Dec 26, 2005 12:38 am

Ben Wallace totalled his 36th career 20-rebound game against the Spurs today (10 points, 21 rebound, 3 blocked shots). It was his first 20-rebound game since January 2, 2004.

Ben Wallace 20-rebound games per season (season high):
1997 - 0 (10)
1998 - 0 (13)
1999 - 0 (15)
2000 - 2 (21)
2001 - 10 (28*)
2002 - 4 (28*)
2003 - 16 (24) - including 8 (of 14) games in March, 2003 (5 straight).
2004 - 3 (22)
2005 - 0 (19)
2006 - 1 (21)
781 rebounds in 36 games (21.7 RPG).

Ben Wallace's 20-rebound games in playoffs:
4/21/2002 - 20
5/10/2002 - 21
5/12/2002 - 21
4/25/2003 - 22
4/27/2003 - 24*
4/30/2003 - 21
5/18/2003 - 22
4/24/2004 - 21
5/9/2004 - 24*
5/16/2004 - 20
5/22/2004 - 22
6/15/2004 - 22
Total - 260 rebounds in 12 games (21.6 RPG).


* - indicates career high
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Postby In The Key on Mon Dec 26, 2005 12:42 am

High IQ wrote:why Shaun is stuggling? damn I would love to see that guy starting and getting more minutes. btw, who do you think is better Shaun Livingston or Chris Paul?


Chris Paul, hands down. Guy's a complete stud. These two players are the face of future NBA point guards. But they play different games. As for more experience, Paul stands tall.
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Postby In The Key on Mon Dec 26, 2005 12:44 am

GWHiZiTSPHiL wrote:Shaun Livingston is averaging 8 points and 6 assists off the bench.

Elton Brand is ranked #1 in the NBA in Efficiency Ranking (30.23)


What..will I get HATED on for saying this again? On a freaking thread called random NBA thoughts.


I have a brother who is a Clipper fan. I hear that a lot from him. But I gotta hand it to Elton and Maggette, who've withstood the teams mediocracy throughout the years. Now, they can showcase what the Clips are all about. What they can do. Oh yeah, and that Kaman guy, a center who once lead a fastbreak, put it behind his back twice, and finished with an assist, ain't that bad at all.
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Postby SOAD on Mon Dec 26, 2005 1:32 am

d.James wrote:Ben Wallace totalled his 36th career 20-rebound game against the Spurs today (10 points, 21 rebound, 3 blocked shots). It was his first 20-rebound game since January 2, 2004.

Ben Wallace 20-rebound games per season (season high):
1997 - 0 (10)
1998 - 0 (13)
1999 - 0 (15)
2000 - 2 (21)
2001 - 10 (28*)
2002 - 4 (28*)
2003 - 16 (24) - including 8 (of 14) games in March, 2003 (5 straight).
2004 - 3 (22)
2005 - 0 (19)
2006 - 1 (21)
781 rebounds in 36 games (21.7 RPG).

Ben Wallace's 20-rebound games in playoffs:
4/21/2002 - 20
5/10/2002 - 21
5/12/2002 - 21
4/25/2003 - 22
4/27/2003 - 24*
4/30/2003 - 21
5/18/2003 - 22
4/24/2004 - 21
5/9/2004 - 24*
5/16/2004 - 20
5/22/2004 - 22
6/15/2004 - 22
Total - 260 rebounds in 12 games (21.6 RPG).


* - indicates career high


Why was he not drafted?
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Postby d.James on Mon Dec 26, 2005 1:41 am

SOAD wrote: Why was (Ben Wallace) not drafted?


If a DIII kid walks into your gym, generously is listed at 6"9 (it's more like 6"7 and 2/3) can't shoot the rock, and you are imagining a small forward or a tall shooting guard, would you draft him?

Ben Wallace is a great basketball player and from what I have seen has a big heart. But part of the reason he couldn't get into DI basketball were his SAT scores. So you also have a transcript infront of you (which, truly, I haven't seen) and maybe it's average.

On top of which, the guy is swearing up and down he's a center. He can guard Shaq and Patrick Ewing and Hakeem on a nightly basis. Unless you're Wes Unseld, do you believe him? Do you see a headache down the road? He also has an 11-year-old son, and has been the league 10 years, married to his wife for six. So you see his Community College sweetheart is knocked up?

What test can you put him through to see his confidence, his will, his belief in himself? Joe Dumars didn't see it. The truth is, Ben Wallace is the only one who knew.

Why did he go undrafted? Because all the standards say he shouldn't be doing what he's doing.
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Postby SOAD on Mon Dec 26, 2005 1:47 am

d.James wrote:
SOAD wrote: Why was (Ben Wallace) not drafted?


If a DIII kid walks into your gym, generously is listed at 6"9 (it's more like 6"7 and 2/3) can't shoot the rock, and you are imagining a small forward or a tall shooting guard, would you draft him?

Ben Wallace is a great basketball player and from what I have seen has a big heart. But part of the reason he couldn't get into DI basketball were his SAT scores. So you also have a transcript infront of you (which, truly, I haven't seen) and maybe it's average.

On top of which, the guy is swearing up and down he's a center. He can guard Shaq and Patrick Ewing and Hakeem on a nightly basis. Unless you're Wes Unseld, do you believe him? Do you see a headache down the road? He also has an 11-year-old son, and has been the league 10 years, married to his wife for six. So you see his Community College sweetheart is knocked up?

What test can you put him through to see his confidence, his will, his belief in himself? Joe Dumars didn't see it. The truth is, Ben Wallace is the only one who knew.

Why did he go undrafted? Because all the standards say he shouldn't be doing what he's doing.


Nice post. I can see why he wouldn't be drafted now, but damn I wish we had gotten him when we had the chance. Haha, oh well.
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Postby In The Key on Mon Dec 26, 2005 2:05 am

d.James wrote:
SOAD wrote: Why was (Ben Wallace) not drafted?


If a DIII kid walks into your gym, generously is listed at 6"9 (it's more like 6"7 and 2/3) can't shoot the rock, and you are imagining a small forward or a tall shooting guard, would you draft him?

Ben Wallace is a great basketball player and from what I have seen has a big heart. But part of the reason he couldn't get into DI basketball were his SAT scores. So you also have a transcript infront of you (which, truly, I haven't seen) and maybe it's average.

On top of which, the guy is swearing up and down he's a center. He can guard Shaq and Patrick Ewing and Hakeem on a nightly basis. Unless you're Wes Unseld, do you believe him? Do you see a headache down the road? He also has an 11-year-old son, and has been the league 10 years, married to his wife for six. So you see his Community College sweetheart is knocked up?

What test can you put him through to see his confidence, his will, his belief in himself? Joe Dumars didn't see it. The truth is, Ben Wallace is the only one who knew.

Why did he go undrafted? Because all the standards say he shouldn't be doing what he's doing.


You know I like your posts man. A lot. I'd like to see an article on that. Hmm....
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Postby d.James on Mon Dec 26, 2005 2:09 am

SOAD wrote:I can see why he wouldn't be drafted now, but damn I wish we had gotten him when we had the chance. Haha, oh well.


Can you imagine it? The 1996 draft - Kobe Bryant and Ben Wallace - can you say "best draft ever?" Can you see Shaq and Big Ben playing alongside each other? They would be the king of Offensive boards and authority dunks. Better tandem than Duncan/Robinson. Hands down, the Lakers would've been the best defensive team in the league. I don't think anyone would've gotten a title in since 1998. Del Harris might have a couple. That really is a thought.

But I'm glad he's alongside Rasheed and McDyess in Motown. He's given me a lot of great memories as a fan of the Pistons.

Now Darko on the other hand... :man5:
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Postby In The Key on Mon Dec 26, 2005 2:16 am

Come on man, Darko's gettin some pt and taking advantage! at least defensively. a little.
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