Rockets move Thomas Robinson to Portland

Rockets move Thomas Robinson to Portland

Postby JSM on Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:42 pm

Jonathan Feigen of the Houston Chronicle wrote:The Rockets are in advanced talks on a cap-clearing trade of forward Thomas Robinson, with a deal potentially “imminent,” a person with knowledge of their plans said on Tuesday.

The Cleveland Cavaliers and Chicago Bulls have shown interest in Robinson, according to another individual with knowledge of the Rockets efforts to move Robinson’s $3.5 million salary next season. The Bulls may be interested in Robinson as part of a larger deal, the individual said.

San Antonio had been interested in Robinson but the teams are not in talks about a deal. It would be difficult for the Spurs to make any sort of deal for Robinson directly with the Rockets and would likely have to add a third team in a larger deal.

The Rockets would want to move Robinson without bringing back corresponding salary to clear enough cap room to offer a max contract in free agency next month. They would have to clear roughly the equivalent of Robinson’s contract next season to have enough cap room to offer Dwight Howard his maximum salary.

There are 16 teams with the cap room, trade exceptions or non-guaranteed contracts needed to make such a deal without sending the Rockets corresponding salaries.

The Cavaliers can make that kind of deal with some of their available cap room. In addition to their own pick, the Cavaliers have the 19th pick and two second-round picks before the Rockets’ selection with the 34th pick.

The Bulls are over the cap, but have a trade exception that is large enough to make a deal that will expire next month. The Bulls have the 20th pick in the draft.

The Spurs have only their own pick, the 28th pick overall, in Thursday’s first round and would not seem to have a way to make such a trade possible directly with the Rockets.

If the Rockets move into the first round in Thursday’s draft, they could select an international prospect that would assure that he would stay overseas next season, allowing them to not use cap space with the pick. They could seek a future pick with the 2014 draft class expected to be unusually strong.

The Rockets could move two of their three rookies last season that were drafted in the first round to clear the cap room necessary, but would rather have to trade one of their prospects than two. The deal to acquire Robinson was made in part because of a belief that he would be easier to deal than Patrick Patterson or a combination of last season’s rookies.

The Rockets also could opt to make a cap-clearing deal next month if it becomes necessary and according to a person familiar with their thinking, would prefer to keep Robinson until the cap room is necessary to sign Howard. There have been indications, however, that teams have been more receptive to deals before the draft in order to be able to consider the acquisition when making their draft choices.


Sam Amico of Fox Sports wrote: Following a report by the Houston Chronicle that the Cavs have an interest in Houston Rockets forward Thomas Robinson, a source told FOX Sports Ohio that the potential deal is very much alive and that activity in talks between the teams increased Tuesday.

• The Cavs have also had discussions about possibly trading their two second-round picks (Nos. 31 and 33) to the Minnesota Timberwolves, Dallas Mavericks and Boston Celtics, sources confirmed.

• Apparently, the Cavs are working on logistics with the Rockets on a potential Robinson deal while attempting to keep another trade with the Mavericks alive.

Of course the Cavs would help Houston clear cap for Dwight if it meant getting him out of LA.
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Re: Rockets close to moving Thomas Robinson

Postby abeer3 on Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:01 pm

i'm going to lol pretty hard if Dwight doesn't go to Houston after all this.

like...really hard.
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Re: Rockets close to moving Thomas Robinson

Postby Helljumper on Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:35 pm

"potentially imminent" :man10:
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Re: Rockets close to moving Thomas Robinson

Postby abeer3 on Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:02 am

there's definite probable interest here.
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Re: Rockets close to moving Thomas Robinson

Postby Rooscooter on Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:21 am

IF this trade is to clear room for Howard I'm sure there has been a wink and a nod through the agent network to Houston.... the idea that these things follow the "rules" by the letter is crazy.

In any event it looks like Cleveland will be a player this off season.... at least most of the reports seem to involve them as facilitators of other things.

If Howard is really thinking of moving I hope it's on July 1st at 12:01 so we can make other moves before we get stuck because all of the other willing trade partners have moved their assets.
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Re: Rockets close to moving Thomas Robinson

Postby abeer3 on Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:06 pm

yeah, I said if robinson got moved prior to FA, that was a bad sign (means deal for howard is done). still, it sounds like they're waiting on pulling the trigger, so that probably means they're not fully confident. just need the ducks in a row in case it does happen.
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Re: Rockets close to moving Thomas Robinson

Postby JSM on Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:09 pm

Sam Amico ‏@SamAmicoFSO 4h
Word is, Thomas Robinson was in Cleveland last night for the LL Cool J concert. Sources suspect perhaps for a physical, too.


Sam Amico ‏@SamAmicoFSO 4h
Spurs, I'm told, still n running for Thomas Robinson as well. By this time Friday, he likely will no longer be a Rocket, man.


Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 4h
Thomas Robinson to Cavs for No. 19 pick. Thomas Robinson to Bulls for No. 20. Word is both of those scenarios are on table for Rockets
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Re: Rockets close to moving Thomas Robinson

Postby abeer3 on Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:03 pm

if it actually goes down, I think lakers management can start working on plan b. no way Houston's stupid enough to dump one of their few remaining assets for basically nothing (late first in a weak draft) without being fully confident they have howard in hand.
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Re: Rockets close to moving Thomas Robinson

Postby Rooscooter on Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:33 pm

The wheels appear to be in motion..... If they are indeed shopping two team agains one another they are really going to move him.

Plan b will be to blow it up I hope. Kobe won't be Kobe until Christmas and will probably never again be a 40 minute, 26 point a game player, Pau's coming off surgery and has been declining faster than the Japanese Stock Market, MWP is done as a viable starter and Nash is 40 years old..... IF they can get anything for them they'd be better off trading those 3 for picks and letting Kobe rest half the season.....
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Re: Rockets close to moving Thomas Robinson

Postby JSM on Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:34 pm

abeer3 wrote:if it actually goes down, I think lakers management can start working on plan b. no way Houston's stupid enough to dump one of their few remaining assets for basically nothing (late first in a weak draft) without being fully confident they have howard in hand.

At first, I was thinking along the same lines. But then I remembered this is Houston we are talking about. They were so sure they had a homerun last summer and then had to sell their fans on Asik and Lin. I think they're doing every single thing that they can do to improve their odds, even if it's not a guarantee. They can't come up empty again and even if they don't land Dwight, they have that max slot for someone else. Also, they can save face in front of beat writers across the country by saying they gambled (by moving Robinson) and did all they could.
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Re: Rockets close to moving Thomas Robinson

Postby JSM on Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:36 pm

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Bulls or Spurs have improved offer for Rockets F Thomas Robinson, I'm told. Cavs may be left out at the end.
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Re: Rockets close to moving Thomas Robinson

Postby therealdeal on Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:49 pm

JSM wrote:
abeer3 wrote:if it actually goes down, I think lakers management can start working on plan b. no way Houston's stupid enough to dump one of their few remaining assets for basically nothing (late first in a weak draft) without being fully confident they have howard in hand.

At first, I was thinking along the same lines. But then I remembered this is Houston we are talking about. They were so sure they had a homerun last summer and then had to sell their fans on Asik and Lin. I think they're doing every single thing that they can do to improve their odds, even if it's not a guarantee. They can't come up empty again and even if they don't land Dwight, they have that max slot for someone else. Also, they can save face in front of beat writers across the country by saying they gambled (by moving Robinson) and did all they could.

This is what I was thinking.
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Re: Rockets close to moving Thomas Robinson

Postby noobiew on Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:58 pm

Well poor Thomas Robinson keep getting being bouncing around the league lol.
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Re: Rockets close to moving Thomas Robinson

Postby FabFourLakers on Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:41 pm

So did he get moved or what?
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Re: Rockets close to moving Thomas Robinson

Postby therealdeal on Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:56 pm

They're still in "advanced talks".
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Re: Rockets close to moving Thomas Robinson

Postby JSM on Sun Jun 30, 2013 7:21 pm

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Houston has traded Thomas Robinson to the Portland Trail Blazers, league source tells Y! Sports.

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Portland will send Houston two future second-round picks and the draft rights to two foreign players, league sources tells Y!
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Re: Rockets move Thomas Robinson to Portland

Postby therealdeal on Sun Jun 30, 2013 7:26 pm

The Rockets are showing that they're all in. This could get mean trouble.
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Re: Rockets move Thomas Robinson to Portland

Postby Helljumper on Sun Jun 30, 2013 7:35 pm

But we've known they've been all in for trying to free up enough cap space to offer a max contract since like forever.
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Re: Rockets move Thomas Robinson to Portland

Postby Rooscooter on Sun Jun 30, 2013 7:38 pm

Domino 1?
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Re: Rockets move Thomas Robinson to Portland

Postby therealdeal on Sun Jun 30, 2013 7:39 pm

True but the fact that they finally got it done means it's happening for sure. :man10:
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Re: Rockets move Thomas Robinson to Portland

Postby Doc Brown on Sun Jun 30, 2013 8:00 pm

Cuban sold everyone on his team as well. He didn't exactly end up with the player(s) he was hoping for.
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Re: Rockets move Thomas Robinson to Portland

Postby abeer3 on Mon Jul 01, 2013 6:18 am

also, just to balance the media love-fest for houston: supposedly, they were going to get a first rounder for robinson, and teams were competing with each other for his services. then they improved their offers. houston ended up with mediocre foreigners and two future second round picks.

good job, btw, nba: quit helping your opponents get what they want without getting what you want.
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