Surprise, Surprise....trade between Memphis and Portland

Surprise, Surprise....trade between Memphis and Portland

Postby Vasashi17 on Wed Dec 03, 2003 2:16 pm

The Grizzlies traded Wesley Person for Portland's Bonzi Wells
ESPN: The Blazers have traded Bonzi Wells to the Grizzlies for Wesley Person and a No. 1 draft pick in 2004, ESPN has learned.


An official announcement is expected to be made later Wednesday.


Earlier this season, Wells was stripped of his team captaincy and suspended two games after he cursed at coach Maurice Cheeks.


Wells has spent his entire six-year career with in Portland, averaging 13.3 points per game. He averaged a career-best 17.0 points during the 2001-2002 season. In 13 games this season, he is averaging 12.2 points.


Person, known for his perimeter marksmanship, has a career scoring average of 11.8, but is averaging just 5.2 points this season with a poor .308 shooting percentage.


During a game in November, Cheeks yanked Wells for taking an ill-advised jumpshot. Wells swore at Cheeks on his way back to the bench and stood on the sideline and continued a profanity-laced tirade. Wells sat out the final 16:17 of the game, and the Blazers quickly lost the lead. The Mavericks went on to win 105-98.


"It just gets old. I'm sick of it," Cheeks said at the time. "I'm sick of always saying he didn't mean it and all that. Players have to be accountable for what they do and what they say."


Earlier in November, he was fined $10,000 by the team for making an obscene gesture toward a heckling fan during a loss to the 76ers.


The Fans of Portland were getting restless and that is why the trade happened...honestly the Blazers lost talent in this trade, but gained a veteran class act. Bonzi had his beef with Mo Cheeks and it is good to see that the Blazers organization is serious and wants to clean house.

They would unload Wallace with a trade, but at the end of the year his contract is up and they can clear up major salary space to woo another big time player, but unlike Wallace, with his head on straight.

Also, if management is serious about cleaning house, look for Woods, Patterson and Stoudamire to be on the trading blocks soon. Randolph has made some violations of his own, but not as major as the prior three have. Also, with Wallace very likely to leave at the end of this season, or quite possibly during, the Blazers will need a formidable PF in a Western Conference that is strong at that position. Randolph is that player...he just needs to polish himself and his character more.

You have to feel good for the Portland fans....its about time...they deserve a team, not a bunch of thugs.
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Postby BDG on Wed Dec 03, 2003 2:24 pm

Whoa! Huge trade! I would have traded Damon Stoudamire and gotten James Posey or something also though.
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Re: Surprise, Surprise....trade between Memphis and Portland

Postby @ on Wed Dec 03, 2003 2:29 pm

GOOD MOVE BY MEMPHIS... :wink: :pipe:
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Postby zetaw00d on Wed Dec 03, 2003 3:00 pm

This is the same Jerry West that traded for Horry when Horry and Ainge got into a fight!!!! Anyone remember that!!!!
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Postby LakersGyrl2003 on Wed Dec 03, 2003 3:01 pm

Heck yea... When Horry threw the towel at him... lol... Dayam Jerry... He's gonna go for Kobe in the offseason, watch...
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Postby zetaw00d on Wed Dec 03, 2003 3:03 pm

Jerry is coming back to LA!!! =) He is a true Laker at heart!!!
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Postby SWOL on Wed Dec 03, 2003 3:37 pm

dude that is HUGE for Memphis they actually get a GO TO GUY in Bonzi
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Postby FabFourLakers on Wed Dec 03, 2003 3:38 pm

so i come home and get on tha net, go to nba.com and what do i see? bonzi wells traded...to MEMPHIS? i dont see how he'll fit in down there! they already have miller battier and posey who play tha same position as bonzi...how will he contribute? someone will be benched, either posey or miller...bonzi is too good to come off tha bench for THAT team...but damn memphis is gettin better as they go along! great move by west...

finally tha blazers got rid of him, but i was expectin more outta them maybe a bonzi and rasheed for jamison and finley type trade...i mean wesley person? atlesat they got a 1st round pick in that trade...
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Postby Vasashi17 on Wed Dec 03, 2003 3:55 pm

Also don't forget that not only do the Blazers create $17 million in cap space once Wallace's contract is up at the end of this year, they also could let Person and his $7 million walk as well. Wesley becomes a free agent at the end of this year....so future wise, the Blazers pulled off one hell of a trade, cause they will have $24 million in cap space and have a 1st round pick and depending on how poorly Memphis plays, the Blazers could have that pick as high as in the top 15. Great trade for both teams and what they wanted out of it.

As for Bonzi having to fight for minutes, which was brought up by Fab4...Bonzi will no doubt start in place of Wesley Person at SG. The only other true SG is Dahntey Jones. Miller and Posey are SG/SF hybrids and Battier is a SF/PF hybrid...so the Grizzlies can either go small and fast with a line up of:

PG J-Will
SG Bonzi
SF Miller
PF Battier
C Pau Gasol
w/Posey coming off the bench

or can go with a tall lineup of:

PG J-will
SG Bonzi
SF Battier
PF Pau Gasol
C Jake Tsakalidis/Lorenzen Wright
w/Posey backing up Battier at the 3, Miller backing up Bonzi at the 2

Either lineup...Bonzi has every right to start over those other guys and now Memphis can go deep with their bench.
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Postby FabFourLakers on Wed Dec 03, 2003 4:00 pm

Vasashi17 wrote:Also don't forget that not only do the Blazers create $17 million in cap space once Wallace's contract is up at the end of this year, they also could let Person and his $7 million walk as well. Wesley becomes a free agent at the end of this year....so future wise, the Blazers pulled off one hell of a trade, cause they will have $24 million in cap space and have a 1st round pick and depending on how poorly Memphis plays, the Blazers could have that pick as high as in the top 15. Great trade for both teams and what they wanted out of it.

As for Bonzi having to fight for minutes, which was brought up by Fab4...Bonzi will no doubt start in place of Wesley Person at SG. The only other true SG is Dahntey Jones. Miller and Posey are SG/SF hybrids and Battier is a SF/PF hybrid...so the Grizzlies can either go small and fast with a line up of:

PG J-Will
SG Bonzi
SF Miller
PF Battier
C Pau Gasol
w/Posey coming off the bench

or can go with a tall lineup of:

PG J-will
SG Bonzi
SF Battier
PF Pau Gasol
C Jake Tsakalidis/Lorenzen Wright
w/Posey backing up Battier at the 3, Miller backing up Bonzi at the 2

Either lineup...Bonzi has every right to start over those other guys and now Memphis can go deep with their bench.


umm where is pau gasol? here is what tha lineup MIGHT be when bonzi gets into tha mix:

j-will/watson
bonzi/posey
miller/battier
pau/outlaw
swift/wright/jake
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Postby FabFourLakers on Wed Dec 03, 2003 4:01 pm

oh nvm looks like u edited it..my bad vashashi
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Postby Vasashi17 on Wed Dec 03, 2003 4:05 pm

Hey no problem...i just caught that mistake when I read my post and must have edited it right before you quoted me....but I agree with your lineup as well....all I'm trying to say is that Bonzi will not have to fight for minutes, unless he brings his bad attitude to Memphis
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Postby JSM on Wed Dec 03, 2003 9:01 pm

dang, Portland must have really wanted to unload Bonzi and fast, I mean I know they get Person's expiring contract, but they could have gotten a lot better in return for Bonzi than Person. They should have sent him to the Magic, they need scoring help.

Person will not help the Blazers hardly at all, except for saving them money at getting their guys out of jail, because I don't think Person has been in the slammer too much in his career.

The Grizz added depth and a go to scoring option. This was a big help for them, and all they lost was an aging sg whose skill have deteriorated a lot.
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Postby FabFourLakers on Wed Dec 03, 2003 9:07 pm

Damn Blazers actually made a smart move, wallace's contract of 17 mil is up this summer, persons contract of 7 mil is up this summer and they got a 1st round pick who could go very high depending on how tha grizz do this season...

they will have about 24 mil in cap space...i hope they are not savin this all for KOBE...damn blazers tryin to steal our players! that would SUCK if kobe went to PORTLAND!
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Postby ShackO on Thu Dec 04, 2003 11:52 am

Maybe he will get lucky and Brown will school him.............

He is gonna hate every minute of it there............. No good smoke, bad attitude, bad rep and a coach taht will put a foot on his................. :mad1: .............
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Postby FabFourLakers on Thu Dec 04, 2003 4:24 pm

wells gives tha grizzlies some IDENTITY in this league tho...tha grizzlies have NEVER made tha playoffs...i think bonzi can put them over that if he stays away from mary jane...yea she gets alot of ppl addicted i know....
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Postby JSM on Fri Dec 05, 2003 8:22 pm

Bonzi's debut with the Grizz was tonight. He didn't put up great numbers or anything, but did decently.

Tonight's stats:
Wells played 26 minutes, shot 6-13 from the field, grabbed 3 rebounds, had 6 assists, 3 turnovers, 1 steal, and 12 points.
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Postby rydjorker121 on Fri Dec 05, 2003 8:51 pm

jsm0331 wrote:Bonzi's debut with the Grizz was tonight. He didn't put up great numbers or anything, but did decently.

Tonight's stats:
Wells played 26 minutes, shot 6-13 from the field, grabbed 3 rebounds, had 6 assists, 3 turnovers, 1 steal, and 12 points.


what intrigues me is his 6 assists...Memphis must be a good passing team, influenced by my man Jerry West and Hubie Brown. There are many stories saying bad smack about Bonzi right now, including his latest run-in with Ruben Boumtje-Boumtje before he was traded. It's dumb how Jerry can overlook that glaring attitude factor. Jerry's gambling like what he did with Kobe now, and Bonzi can either bring down the team with his bad temperament, ballhogging and outside court problems...or he can help the team, especially if he consistently gets 13 and 6....but wow, he would be an excellent all-around role model to look up to if he was clean...just sad.
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Postby JSM on Fri Dec 05, 2003 9:40 pm

Person didn't have quite as good of a debut, he scored 8 points in 14 minutes, on 3-8 shooting, 3 rebounds, 2 assists, and 1 steal.
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Postby BDG on Fri Dec 05, 2003 11:17 pm

Why would they play him only 14 minutes? The guy is DEADLY from the arc!
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Postby FabFourLakers on Fri Dec 05, 2003 11:39 pm

jsm0331 wrote:Person didn't have quite as good of a debut, he scored 8 points in 14 minutes, on 3-8 shooting, 3 rebounds, 2 assists, and 1 steal.


ACTUALLY he had a great debut, he scored all 8 pts in tha 4th quarter to help tha blazers close out tha knicks....

great debut from both players...bonzi should become a starter for that team soon....
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Postby rydjorker121 on Sat Dec 06, 2003 4:56 pm

jsm0331 wrote:Person didn't have quite as good of a debut, he scored 8 points in 14 minutes, on 3-8 shooting, 3 rebounds, 2 assists, and 1 steal.


yes, I heard that he scored all 8 of his points at the 4th quarter...clutch time...and to answer your question BDG it's because Person's stroke has been off lately...shooting around 31% with Memphis won't get you anywhere, and that's anb embarrassment with you're dubbed with the tag that says 43% career three-point shooter on it. Person actually averaged 14 points on his last season with Cleveland, and it was right for Portland to take him. He's a relatively clean, no nonsense, subtle guy...he won't throw balls at Ruben Boumtje-Boumtje and he's soft in that sense....he only does the things he knows how to do...no athletic freak...I like that mentality, unlike getting 32 points, 10 rebounds, and hitting 6-6 from the line...show-offs.
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Postby FabFourLakers on Sat Dec 06, 2003 5:42 pm

hes a great addition to tha locker room and he'll have a good influence on tha youngns on this portland squad! Hopefully portland is headed in tha right direction and hopefully they dump Sheed and Stoudemire and start building 'round Randolph...
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Postby Kobe834 on Sat Dec 06, 2003 9:38 pm

I feel good for Wesley Person. I always felt that he deserved a better team. It's good for him to get outta that hellhole we call Memphis. Great trade, but would could happen if Memphis gets a high pick next season and have to trade him away? Will they regret it?
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Postby FabFourLakers on Sat Dec 06, 2003 9:53 pm

Kobe834 wrote:I feel good for Wesley Person. I always felt that he deserved a better team. It's good for him to get outta that hellhole we call Memphis. Great trade, but would could happen if Memphis gets a high pick next season and have to trade him away? Will they regret it?


haha that would really suck...thats what happened last year in tha draft...they got tha #2 pick...and whatever pick they got it would go to tha pistons...and only if they got tha #1 pick they could keeep it...wow they got screwed...not like tha pistons capatilized on that #2 pick anyway...darko hasnt even played this season...and when he has he doesnt score

Memphis can work with what they have right now so it doestn really matter how high they into tha draft...thats good news for portland tho...
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