but I think the real reason people don't talk about Tim is because he doesn't put up big numbers. He hasn't averaged 20 points or more the last 6 seasons...
Is Duncan the perfect person? No, but he's the kind of athlete that parents wants their kids to grow up to be: humble, coachable, and put their teammates before themselves.
This is the guy who, when Tony Parker's asking price was above what Peter Holt wanted to pay, walked into management's office and said, "Give him whatever he wants, I'll pay the difference out of my own pocket. Tony is staying here."
Like Tom Brady, Duncan hasn't won in a long time now, and if he does, maybe people will start talking about him for the right reasons again.
Iceberg Slim wrote:but I think the real reason people don't talk about Tim is because he doesn't put up big numbers. He hasn't averaged 20 points or more the last 6 seasons...
Neither did Alonzo Mourning when he played with the Hornets and Heat. Their numbers look almost identical. Difference was Zo had enough personalty for 3 people. He was a high energy, trash talking, shot blocking, goon. And didn't win a ring until 2006, which was his twilight. He was often talked about. And it primarily had to do with his incredible personality, imo.Is Duncan the perfect person? No, but he's the kind of athlete that parents wants their kids to grow up to be: humble, coachable, and put their teammates before themselves.
This is what boggles me about basketball fans. The addage is true, negativity spreads faster. "Fans" of the game moan about Amare Stoudemire types, Melo's, and the JR Smith's (the Knicks are in trouble, btw) but can't acknowledge a 4-year Wake Forest grad as the quintessential embodiment of the "role model". Which brought me to my point in the last paragraph. Most people are victims of the cool factor, even if they hate a guy. They are blinded so much, many of them don't realize the good that's staring them in the face. Why? His energy isn't really attractive. And in a world of shiny toys and loud colors, substance comes second.This is the guy who, when Tony Parker's asking price was above what Peter Holt wanted to pay, walked into management's office and said, "Give him whatever he wants, I'll pay the difference out of my own pocket. Tony is staying here."
He really did this? Hey...if you can find a link to a story that speaks on this, please provide it. That's one of the most selfless acts within the sports realm I've ever heard of.Like Tom Brady, Duncan hasn't won in a long time now, and if he does, maybe people will start talking about him for the right reasons again.
Hopefully so. History will do him justice, I believe. But the current eyes and ears who appreciate him now are only basketball fanatics and lovers of the game. His resume alone stands up to almost anyone.
Hey, here's a question for everyone: In terms of championships, status, accomplishments, and hardware should Tim Duncan be ranked above Kobe Bryant in a top 10 of all-time list?
Iceberg Slim wrote:He really did this? Hey...if you can find a link to a story that speaks on this, please provide it. That's one of the most selfless acts within the sports realm I've ever heard of.
Iceberg Slim wrote:This post is taken directly from blog my site which is posted above my sig. I couldn't help but think that at a time when he's about to potentially win his 5th ring, no one is really talking about him for the right reasons. It's sad, but its the way it is. It's long overdue that I pay some homage to the greatest PF of all-time...
In a modern day culture scene where a Kardashian is trending for being a preggo fatty with a possible gay lover (sorry Kanye), Bieber wants Nazi victim love from Anne Frank, and Lohan is loved for a being a perennial life loser, I feel confident in saying that Americans like dysfunction.
Which brings me to the iPhone-like functionality of Tim Duncan – a genetic hybrid of a 7’0 Bill Russell, the kid who cried for a getting a 2200 on the new SAT, who acts like a moving wax statue…of himself. He’s a 14-time all-star, 4-time champion, 3-time Finals MVP, 2-time regular season MVP, who is simply put, the GREATEST POWER FORWARD OF ALL-TIME. And he’s making more headlines now than maybe ever before because he’s going through a divorce with his college sweetheart/wife Amy Duncan. NBA Finals? That might pale in comparison to his remarkably messy divorce scandal. A scandal that includes Duncan hiring a private eye to track his wife’s whereabouts where she allegedly cheated on him with her personal trainer. And true to form, it’s still as boring as badminton in the Olympics, just like his legendary game. If he had swag like the guys America loves to hate (Tiger, Mayweather, Kobe) ESPN would create its own ticker on the bottom screen for him. But you don’t care that much. And that’s probably how he prefers it.
I don't like this paragraph. Kardashian looks great. I don't understand some of the other references.
"Truly inspiring to be able to come here. Anne was a great girl. Hopefully she would have been a belieber,"
Rooscooter wrote:Good read Ice. I agree with it for the most part with the exception of your reasons for deeming him the greatest PF of all time. I've never been able to bridge the gap between team performance and individual greatness. Malone played in the finals twice and lost to Jordan led Chicago teams. Duncan's SA teams wouldn't have faired any better in those series.
There are many forgotten "greats" that belong much much higher on those lists of "top players" and they don't get that recognition because of the emphasis put on winning championships. If you have to have one championship to be the best at a position it then narrows your player choices to just 17 teams.... and only 9 since 1980.
Weezy wrote:The Malone question of where does he rank is a big one to me. If you value titles above all Duncan is the top guy at PF, but if numbers matter a lot too I don't see another PF above Malone there. Malone blows Duncan away in scoring in his best seasons, and the rebounds are even. Defense, I can't really recall how well Malone played in that area, but I do remember him being a tough player and holding his own with how big he was. As far as averages go Malone barely ever averaged 1 block or over in a season, Duncan averages over 2 blocks for his career. So factoring in circumstance being why Malone never got a ring and Duncan did get his 4 you might have a hard time calling either one of them the greatest ever over the other. You always have that same argument or question you hear a lot with players that never won, put Malone on the Spurs for these years Duncan has been, does he have titles? Probably so, but you can't go on what if, only what is, so it's tough.
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