What stopped Dwight Howard and Chris Paul from playing toget

What stopped Dwight Howard and Chris Paul from playing toget

Postby Balance&Options24 on Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:35 pm

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What stopped Dwight Howard and Chris Paul from playing together as Dallas Mavericks?
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LOS ANGELES – Chris Paul didn't want to go to Orlando. Dwight Howard didn't want to go to New Orleans. But Paul and Howard knew this much: A little more than a year ago, they wanted to play together. Never, however, could they agree on a plan that would unite the NBA's best point guard with its best center.

Paul and Howard now find themselves in the same city, albeit playing for rival franchises. Howard came to the Lakers this past summer while Paul is beginning his second season with the Clippers. Both are set to become free agents at the end of this season, raising the question of whether they might make one more effort to team up. Chris Paul (Getty Images)

The answer from both All-Stars: Don't count on it.

"We were trying to play together, but it didn't work out," Howard told Yahoo! Sports.

Paul and Howard were teammates on Team USA's 2008 Olympic team. They grew close during that time, and so did their families. While watching LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh form a super team in Miami, Paul and Howard have been talking about joining forces for years.



Starting in 2009, Howard and Paul began chatting regularly, trying to figure out a way to play together. Howard tried to convince Paul to join him with the Orlando Magic. Paul responded, one source said, with a question: "What will you be giving up?" While Orlando was relatively close to Paul's hometown of Winston Salem, N.C., and had advanced to the 2009 NBA Finals, Paul preferred Howard join him on the New Orleans Hornets' roster. When neither Howard nor Paul seemed interested in playing for the other's team, they considered looking for a common destination.

"I tried to get him to come to New Orleans," Paul told Yahoo! Sports. "It was back and forth, here and there."

Sources close to both players said Howard and Paul settled on the Dallas Mavericks as an ideal destination, knowing owner Mark Cuban had the means to clear salary-cap space for them. The Mavericks explored trades for both players, but didn't have attractive enough assets to make a deal. And while Howard and Paul could have become unrestricted free agents in the summer of 2012 by opting out of their contracts, neither exhibited the patience to make such a plan feasible.


Paul was all in for joining the Mavericks as a free agent in 2012, but he wanted a commitment Howard also had interest, sources said. Howard, however, remained indecisive about his future in Orlando and wasn't ready to commit to Paul.

Dwight Howard on Chris Paul: We always wanted to play together. It didn't happen that way. (AP)Frustrated, Paul eventually grew tired of waiting on Howard, gave up on the Dallas plan and asked the Hornets for a trade. After the Clippers acquired Paul prior to the start of last season, Paul opted into the final year of his contract for the 2012-13 season, postponing his free agency by a year. Howard then surprised everyone in March when he agreed to sign a waiver for the Magic, opting into his contract for the 2012-13 season and also delaying his free agency.

"We always wanted to play together," Howard said of Paul. "It didn't happen that way."

Howard eventually grew dissatisfied enough with the Magic to again push for a trade, but joining Paul with the Clippers was never a priority for him. Howard didn't think he and Clippers forward Blake Griffin would play well together, sources said, and he was far more interested in joining Deron Williams for the Nets' move to Brooklyn.



Williams, much like Paul, grew tired of a trade for Howard to materialize, and so the Nets instead acquired Joe Johnson to successfully convince Williams to stay. The Magic did have trade conversations with the Clippers about Howard this offseason, but the Lakers became his preferred destination after Brooklyn was no longer an option.

Paul's and Howard's families remain close; the players' parents even went to lunch together this week in Los Angeles. But Paul said he hasn't talked to Howard since Howard was dealt to the Lakers. One source said Paul is still frustrated by Howard's indecision in their efforts to become teammates.

"I'm pretty sure he's busy with family and all that stuff," Howard said. "I've been busy. We'll have time. We'll be here for the long haul."

Said Paul: "I know that they got stuff going on and we got stuff going on."

Howard loves living in Los Angeles and has enjoyed his brief time with the Lakers, despite their early struggles. Barring a change of heart, he's expected to re-sign with the Lakers after the season. Paul also has enjoyed living in Los Angeles and likes how the Clippers have remade their roster, so, he, too, is strongly leaning toward re-signing.

That doesn't mean the Mavericks and Howard's hometown Atlanta Hawks won't make a run at both players this coming summer. Both the Mavs and Hawks will have significant salary-cap space to make the All-Star pairing finally happen.

And yet after years of trying to play together, both Howard and Paul no longer envision such a scenario happening.

"He's on the other side," Paul said. "I don't worry about that."
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Re: What stopped Dwight Howard and Chris Paul from playing toget

Postby OX1947 on Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:36 pm

Basketball Reasons stopped CP3 and Howard from playing together.
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Re: What stopped Dwight Howard and Chris Paul from playing toget

Postby kenzo on Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:47 pm

OX1947 wrote:Basketball Reasons stopped CP3 and Howard from playing together.
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Re: What stopped Dwight Howard and Chris Paul from playing toget

Postby Center Court on Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:58 pm

kenzo wrote:
OX1947 wrote:Basketball Reasons stopped CP3 and Howard from playing together.


basketball reasons stopped Paul/Kobe/Bynum...

If CP3 was a Laker, I doubt any team would try and facilitate Howard to LA the way Philly did. Orlando would not want to give Dwight exactly what he wanted and teams would be willing to intervene with a Lakers/Orlando trade whenever possible.

Who knows, but I just can't see teams helping create what would be the most dominant trio in the NBA. Miami was able to do it via cap space, SAS did it through the draft, Boston did it through FA and trades based off of drafting.. Lakers would have been relying on two major blockbuster trades to go their way.

Then again, Agent Mitch never misses.
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Re: What stopped Dwight Howard and Chris Paul from playing toget

Postby therealdeal on Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:46 pm

:man10:

Unless Paul is willing to sign a contract for 3.1 million for a year and waiting until Kobe/Gasol/Metta expire, then I don't see him here next season.

My thing with Paul: if he were smart he'd sign a short term contract with the Clippers. If I'm Paul i say "give me a 2 year contract for the max with a player option for the 3rd year. That way I know for sure you guys are as dedicated to winning as I am."

That'd keep the front office on their toes and give him the opportunity to get out and go to a variety of places if they don't succeed... like across the hall.

Although to be fair I hate the way he plays... His game can be so entertaining, but his incessant flopping is just disgusting. I didn't watch the last game, but hopefully this season he's not as bad.
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Re: What stopped Dwight Howard and Chris Paul from playing toget

Postby karacha on Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:03 pm

Paul would love the Princeton offense. :mhihi:
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Re: What stopped Dwight Howard and Chris Paul from playing toget

Postby LAKEROC on Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:08 pm

^ I'd actually rather have Kyrie Irving right now than Chris Paul. He's about 7 years younger, and would finally give us a Young franchise point guard. Sure, we had Payton in 2004, and Nash in 2012, but both were in the twilight of their careers. A Kyrie Irving would finally give us a young franchise point guard, something the Lakers have not had since Magic Johnson.


LeBron James and either Kyrie Irving-John Wall or Ricky Rubio as that point guard the Lakers will have their eye on in the future.
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Re: What stopped Dwight Howard and Chris Paul from playing toget

Postby 432J on Fri Nov 02, 2012 5:11 pm

LAKEROC wrote:^ I'd actually rather have Kyrie Irving right now than Chris Paul. He's about 7 years younger, and would finally give us a Young franchise point guard. Sure, we had Payton in 2004, and Nash in 2012, but both were in the twilight of their careers. A Kyrie Irving would finally give us a young franchise point guard, something the Lakers have not had since Magic Johnson.


LeBron James and either Kyrie Irving-John Wall or Ricky Rubio as that point guard the Lakers will have their eye on in the future.

i agree with this

and i have a feeling that one day irving will be wearing the purple and gold
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Re: What stopped Dwight Howard and Chris Paul from playing toget

Postby Rooscooter on Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:18 pm

Paul in an offense with Kobe and a Big that needs touches would be worse than Nash IMHO.... Paul is a one trick pony and not nearly as versatile as Nash...... and one with a bone on bone knee to boot. Paul gets his stats and he makes some neat passes but when the game turns to the top teams in the league like in the playoffs he's always failed....

I'd go for a younger player like Irving.... someone that can score without the assistance of the entire team screening for him and 3 refs.....
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Re: What stopped Dwight Howard and Chris Paul from playing toget

Postby wcsoldier81 on Sat Nov 03, 2012 12:27 am

Irving and KD are on their way ... just be patient
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Re: What stopped Dwight Howard and Chris Paul from playing toget

Postby purp n gold on Sat Nov 03, 2012 12:45 am

Dwight would have gotten here regardless. The Lakers weren't in the Dwight sweepstakes the entire time, there were SEVERAL chances for him to go to Brooklyn. If he wanted to go there he'd be in a Brooklyn jersey right now. But once they signed Lopez, they were out of the equation... the Lakers were always going to be the last & only suitors.

Now the real problem is convincing Dwight to stay when this poor excuse of a coach Mike Brown is staffed here.
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Re: What stopped Dwight Howard and Chris Paul from playing toget

Postby therealdeal on Sun Nov 04, 2012 1:31 pm

LAKEROC wrote:^ I'd actually rather have Kyrie Irving right now than Chris Paul. He's about 7 years younger, and would finally give us a Young franchise point guard. Sure, we had Payton in 2004, and Nash in 2012, but both were in the twilight of their careers. A Kyrie Irving would finally give us a young franchise point guard, something the Lakers have not had since Magic Johnson.


LeBron James and either Kyrie Irving-John Wall or Ricky Rubio as that point guard the Lakers will have their eye on in the future.

How would Kyrie Irving get here? His contract doesn't expire until 2014-2015 and he can make more money there than elsewhere.

I'd love to get him too, but I just don't see it. Unless he demands to get out of Cleveland, he's going to be there a while. Longer than we have to wait.

I think we'll likely make a run at James in the summer of '14. Then in the summer of '15 make a run at Love. LeBron/Love/Howard would be awesome for about 5 years.
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Re: What stopped Dwight Howard and Chris Paul from playing toget

Postby Phil XI on Mon Nov 05, 2012 7:30 am

Cuban.
He sold his soul to the devil for his ring and now suffers eternal punishment.
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Re: What stopped Dwight Howard and Chris Paul from playing toget

Postby Showtime.Revival.05 on Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:21 am

Phil XI wrote:Cuban.
He sold his soul to the devil for his ring and now suffers eternal punishment.


ill gladly trade him for his eternal punhisment of being a millionaire playboy whose team isn't that great
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Re: What stopped Dwight Howard and Chris Paul from playing toget

Postby therealdeal on Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:47 am

Showtime.Revival.05 wrote:
Phil XI wrote:Cuban.
He sold his soul to the devil for his ring and now suffers eternal punishment.


ill gladly trade him for his eternal punhisment of being a millionaire playboy whose team isn't that great

Seriously. :man10:

I'd own the Bobcats if it meant I was filthy rich with an awful basketball team.
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