Where is Darko?

Where is Darko?

Postby TXLAKERFAN on Thu Nov 06, 2003 10:39 am

has anyone seen darko play because i haven't. when i look at the box scores i always see dnp-coaches decision by his name. what was detroits point in picking him.
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Postby SWOL on Thu Nov 06, 2003 11:21 am

Another OVERRATED EURO :disagree:
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Postby crucifido on Thu Nov 06, 2003 12:32 pm

Exactly - another overrated Euro.

I'm hoping that within this season people can start catching onto the point I brought up this off-season about Europ players being nothing more than a trend and a way for David Stern to get the public used to seeing these names on jersies for when the European expansion happens.

There has yet to be a Euro player to make any all-defensive team (and to me if a player - let alone a group of players - are deficient at 50% of the game they don't deserve this much reverence), they do nothing but shoot well (providing you don't contest their shot in any way), they rarely (if ever) pass the ball to set up another teammate, they can't drive with any kind of consistency or positive action and for the life of them they cannot guard any player with any semblance of speed.

Euros are nothing but a fad and when Detroit picked Darko I even came on this board and posted that it would be the biggest mistake they ever made - passing up Carmelo Anthony.

When I posted that I got nothing but flack from everyone here. I'm ecstatic that the Lakers bypassed the Euro trend this draft and went with players who can play the American style of basketball (the true style of basketball) over some Euro player who can shoot 3's great but do nothing else. (case in point: Stojakovic)
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Postby TXLAKERFAN on Thu Nov 06, 2003 12:42 pm

yea hopefully the next draft won't have an abundace of euro players.
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Postby crucifido on Thu Nov 06, 2003 1:03 pm

It will until the expansion happens. And as long as the fans watch for style over substance they will have a place in this league. Just part of the new generation of the NBA unfortunately. But it doesn't mean you HAVE TO keep quiet about your concerns.

In my opinion it's hurting the relevance of defense in the game and it's hurting the future by telling kids that it's all about how many points you can put up and not how much you win.
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Postby TXLAKERFAN on Thu Nov 06, 2003 1:20 pm

i'm glad the laker organization isn't fascinated with euro players
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Postby JSM on Thu Nov 06, 2003 1:20 pm

Darko is spending his time on the bench. Detroit has stated that they want to bring him along slowly, and don't care if he doesn't help them for a couple of years. I guess they got him, hoping for the best down the road.
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Postby crucifido on Thu Nov 06, 2003 1:23 pm

Meanwhile, they could have had Carmelo Anthony to help out immediately. I don't see the logic.

You can only build for the future so much until the fans and the city get upset and exhausted with the losing ways of the now.
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Postby TXLAKERFAN on Thu Nov 06, 2003 1:36 pm

yea that strategy makes no sense
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Postby FabFourLakers on Thu Nov 06, 2003 4:14 pm

well when ut hink about it...detroit was already a serious contender so they didnt need another scorer....well ok they are stupid for not gettin Carmelo but if Prince didnt step up in tha playoffs i guarantee u they woudla picked Carmelo FOR SURE...but yea Darko has yet to play! I guess thats how Larry Brown sees it...i dont understand they already had big men...they have wallace okur rebraca campbell and darko...well they acctually signed campbell after drafting darko(wtf?) and they traded robinson(bad move) for sura to clear up their frontcourt overload...but seriously if they want big things outta darko...trade Wallace to a great team like tha lakers!
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Postby Roscoe on Thu Nov 06, 2003 4:49 pm

FabFourLakers wrote:well when ut hink about it...detroit was already a serious contender so they didnt need another scorer....well ok they are stupid for not gettin Carmelo but if Prince didnt step up in tha playoffs i guarantee u they woudla picked Carmelo FOR SURE...but yea Darko has yet to play! I guess thats how Larry Brown sees it...i dont understand they already had big men...they have wallace okur rebraca campbell and darko...well they acctually signed campbell after drafting darko(wtf?) and they traded robinson(bad move) for sura to clear up their frontcourt overload...but seriously if they want big things outta darko...trade Wallace to a great team like tha lakers!


Actually the Pistons needed as much of a scorer as anyone. If you look at the stats you'll see that they had a great defense, but they couldn't score. Carmello would have been a great pickup, but I think they based the descision on who to draft on who supposedly had more potential. I personally would have picked Melo, but we'll see if Darko turns out to be the player that the Pistons think he could be...
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Postby FabFourLakers on Thu Nov 06, 2003 4:53 pm

Roscoe wrote:
FabFourLakers wrote:well when ut hink about it...detroit was already a serious contender so they didnt need another scorer....well ok they are stupid for not gettin Carmelo but if Prince didnt step up in tha playoffs i guarantee u they woudla picked Carmelo FOR SURE...but yea Darko has yet to play! I guess thats how Larry Brown sees it...i dont understand they already had big men...they have wallace okur rebraca campbell and darko...well they acctually signed campbell after drafting darko(wtf?) and they traded robinson(bad move) for sura to clear up their frontcourt overload...but seriously if they want big things outta darko...trade Wallace to a great team like tha lakers!


Actually the Pistons needed as much of a scorer as anyone. If you look at the stats you'll see that they had a great defense, but they couldn't score. Carmello would have been a great pickup, but I think they based the descision on who to draft on who supposedly had more potential. I personally would have picked Melo, but we'll see if Darko turns out to be the player that the Pistons think he could be...


If i were an NBA GM, i wouldnt take my chances on Darko...if u had tha chance to get a player of Carmelo's talent...i'd take that in a second and not even consider Darko...they shoudla screwed tha Nuggs over and got carmelo at tha last minute and then the Nuggs would hafta settle for another European bust...actually i bet they woulda chose Chris Bosh over Darko if Carmelo went at #2...
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Postby Guest on Thu Nov 06, 2003 6:14 pm

No he's been injured, hasn't played a reg season game I don't think, he played 1 pre-season game and had like 14 i think.
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Postby rydjorker121 on Thu Nov 06, 2003 6:21 pm

actually Darko needs time...i'm sure Dragan would agree with me, being a Euro...All Euros need time, they're coming from overseas, don't forget, and they need to get adjusted to speaking proper English as well as getting their game against SERIOUS competition. Some Euros like Andrei Kirilenko and Dirk Nowitzki have no problem adjusting, but there is a reason behind Larry Brown's voting to start Elden Campbell over Darko...and also Mehmet Okur...he wants Darko to learn the game first...the Pistons' style of play....and then he can showcase his skills on the court. He's a court-savvy player, although he's getting less than 5 minutes a game, he gives Pistons well-needed insurance. The guy has a jumper and rebounding skills, so he's not a bust...2nd draft pick...LOL...don't give up hope...as a matter of fact, I think that if rookies are more exposed to the game then just learning the game while sitting your a@@ in the bench, then they'll gain more confidence boost so they would enhance their game at a faster rate. Tayshaun Prince and Boozer were both mediocre players turned great because of exposure and confidence. If only Phil would hear this and play Rush more...same applies to Darko
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Postby SWOL on Thu Nov 06, 2003 8:08 pm

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Postby strikemode14 on Fri Nov 07, 2003 5:47 am

i can see why they picked darko over anthony...becuase of his size...you can't teach 7'0 they figured he be better down the road then anthony defensively and they can develop his offensive game so he pretty awesome especially in the east where that aren't that many big man..however it is kinda dumb becuase they need offense more then defense and anthony would have given them that...plus he would have put people in the stands...i can see why the pistons did it but, i would have gotten anthony
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Postby crucifido on Fri Nov 07, 2003 5:29 pm

You also can't teach ANY Euro to play defense on a night in and night out basis. It is not in their basketball make-up. Like it or not, that's the way they play. I know it may seem harsh but I think the group of Euros in the league right now (along with a couple other factors, such as the lack of unselfish, team and "winning is everything" minded players) are bringing the quality of basketball down in the league. All offense and no defense makes for more losing than winning no matter how you want to spin it.

If they picked Carmelo, at the very least, they could've traded him for someone they "needed". It was a silly pick based on a knee jerk reaction to a damaging trend in the NBA.

My prediction: Playing time or no playing time, Darko picked before Carmelo will turn out to be one of those "Sam Bowie over Michael Jordan" type stories.
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