Why Marc Gasol is the NBA's Best Defensive Player

Why Marc Gasol is the NBA's Best Defensive Player

Postby Chillbongo on Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:24 pm

Memphis Grizzlies center Marc Gasol should win the Defensive Player of the Year. All you need to do to understand why is to watch everything he does away from the ball during a game

To understand why Memphis Grizzlies center Marc Gasol is the league's best defensive player, you need to watch him very closely. Spend a game ignoring the ball and just focus on what he does on the defensive end of the court. Do that enough times, and you too will see why he's a basketball savant.

I spent my time watching Gasol during the Grizzlies' 96-85 win over the Los Angeles Clippers Wednesday, a pivotal win that gave Memphis a leg up in the race for the all-important No. 3 seed in the West. It was one of those odd Gasol games where the stat sheet actually told a large part of the story. Gasol scored 21 points to lead Memphis' offense and was credited with five steals, a rarity for him. But there were so many defensive possessions where Gasol's positioning, anticipation and on-court intelligence forced misses without him getting any credit in the stat sheet. These are just a few of those possessions.

First, it should be noted that Gasol has excellent natural quickness. Look at him stay with Chris Paul on this switch.

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But in today's game, lots of centers can stay with quick point guards for one possession when needed. What sets Gasol apart? He combines that natural ability with superior positioning and fantastic play recognition.


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http://www.sbnation.com/2013/3/15/4108416/marc-gasol-grizzlies-defensive-player-of-the-year
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Re: Why Marc Gasol is the NBA's Best Defensive Player

Postby Chillbongo on Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:27 pm

Man Marc is defensively elite. He's all over the place.

If we had a damn coach that actually emphasized this, we could be so much better. This just shows that you don't necessarily need a team full of young athletic dudes to be defensively elite.

Man f*** Pringles. Someone needs to show this to Jim Buss.

Memphis is a slow-paced team too. I saw that game, their defense totally obliterated the Clippers. One fast break dunk the whole game. It was beautiful.
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Re: Why Marc Gasol is the NBA's Best Defensive Player

Postby laker911 on Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:48 pm

I thought LeBron was. I'm so confused. Why do ESPN keep emphasizing that LeBron is? Surely ESPN can't be biased.
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Re: Why Marc Gasol is the NBA's Best Defensive Player

Postby lakerfan2 on Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:17 pm

That article also has to notice that:

1. Conley did not follow CP3.
2. Conley did not go under the screen
3. Conley cut off the immediate roll pass to Blake and Memphis collapsed the paint to take that away. That's team defense right there.

Lakers need to get on that page.
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Re: Why Marc Gasol is the NBA's Best Defensive Player

Postby Chillbongo on Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:21 pm

lakerfan2 wrote:That article also has to notice that:

1. Conley did not follow CP3.
2. Conley did not go under the screen
3. Conley cut off the immediate roll pass to Blake and Memphis collapsed the paint to take that away. That's team defense right there.

Lakers need to get on that page.


Exactly.

Marc's defense is excellent, but that is TEAM DEFENSE at its finest. Beautifully orchestrated stuff.
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Re: Why Marc Gasol is the NBA's Best Defensive Player

Postby Juronimo on Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:49 pm

laker911 wrote:I thought LeBron was. I'm so confused. Why do ESPN keep emphasizing that LeBron is? Surely ESPN can't be biased.


That's because he is at worst one of the best defensive players in the league. Not everything is a conspiracy.
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Re: Why Marc Gasol is the NBA's Best Defensive Player

Postby gcclaker on Fri Mar 15, 2013 4:05 pm

For a player his size, Marc Gasol has really good mobility. On top that he also has excellent court IQ so he knows how to play the angles. Then again, he's still young.
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Re: Why Marc Gasol is the NBA's Best Defensive Player

Postby Rooscooter on Fri Mar 15, 2013 4:47 pm

Whoa..... wait a minute here. Is this article saying there is more to defense than stats, DPOY awards and blocks into the 19th row?.... WTH are they smoking?

There is no way a slow, lethargic guy like Gasol can be a good defender.... he can't even jump and there is no way he can fit in a phone booth.....
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Re: Why Marc Gasol is the NBA's Best Defensive Player

Postby Rooscooter on Fri Mar 15, 2013 4:50 pm

Chillbongo wrote:Marc's defense is excellent, but that is TEAM DEFENSE at its finest.



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Re: Why Marc Gasol is the NBA's Best Defensive Player

Postby Doc Brown on Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:01 pm

^^^ There's the one man cover for everyone, while everyone else stands around, defense that we have been running the last couple of years.
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Re: Why Marc Gasol is the NBA's Best Defensive Player

Postby Rooscooter on Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:04 pm

Doc Brown wrote:^^^ There's the one man cover for everyone, while everyone else stands around, defense that we have been running the last couple of years.


That's "team defense"...... if you're the one of the men standing around...... :man10:
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Re: Why Marc Gasol is the NBA's Best Defensive Player

Postby wcsoldier81 on Sat Mar 16, 2013 12:16 am

He's not even the best defender on his own team ...

I know a big can have a huge defensive impact by anchoring the paint and blitz the PNR but more props need to be given to perimeter defenders , especially with today's rules ... if you want to award Grizz great team D , give the defensive player of the year award to Tony Allen ...

I wouldn't take Marc as a defensive player over Chandler, Noah or healthy D12
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Re: Why Marc Gasol is the NBA's Best Defensive Player

Postby abeer3 on Sat Mar 16, 2013 6:10 am

chandler's not a good one on one post defender (for instance, watch him try to cover marc gasol). i give you noah, healthy d12, and healthy bogut (if such a thing still exists), though.
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Postby bystander on Sat Mar 16, 2013 6:14 am

wcsoldier81 wrote:I wouldn't take Marc as a defensive player over Chandler, Noah or healthy D12


I think he's better than Chandler, not than Noah or Howard. Marc makes some very silly fouls and Chandler gets away with way more than Marc.

But no, he's not the DPOY, no effin way.
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Re: Why Marc Gasol is the NBA's Best Defensive Player

Postby therealdeal on Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:05 am

^ As a player I think Marc is by and far better than Chandler all around. But defensively Chandler is fantastic. Even when Dwight is perfectly healthy, Chandler can challenge him for DPOY awards.
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Re: Why Marc Gasol is the NBA's Best Defensive Player

Postby thkthebest on Sat Mar 16, 2013 10:37 am

Marc Gasol was always a great defensive player. He's got a pretty solid case for DPOTY imo.

Edit: But he's on the Grizzlies so he probably won't win. Lol.
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Re: Why Marc Gasol is the NBA's Best Defensive Player

Postby Rooscooter on Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:04 pm

wcsoldier81 wrote:He's not even the best defender on his own team ...

I know a big can have a huge defensive impact by anchoring the paint and blitz the PNR but more props need to be given to perimeter defenders , especially with today's rules ... if you want to award Grizz great team D , give the defensive player of the year award to Tony Allen ...

I wouldn't take Marc as a defensive player over Chandler, Noah or healthy D12



Interesting post..... you say Memphis has a great D..... and it's not all Gasol... in fact it's the entire team that knows how to play a scheme together..... and they say you'd take the "Stat" guys over a guy that knows how to play a scheme that's successful.....

If you're playing a video game or are putting together a Fantasy team I guess.....

Individual stats and for that matter play are pretty useless on defense without a team approach and players that will do what they are supposed to. Guys like Chandler, Ibake, Jordan, McGee and Howard chase shooters without discipline or regard for the scheme. Blocked shots, and even worse missed blocked shots, are some of the easiest possessions for opponents. The 2.5 times a game they are successful comes at the expense of 12 to 15 attempts.... The results are scrambles to cover behind the "shot blocker" and most often.... offensive rebounds and easy buckets.

Give me a guy like Gasol who approaches defense with his mind and knows where everyone is at all times over they Ibake's of the world who can make that one or two amazing block but also leave entire sides of the defense open numerous times to get that one play....
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Re: Why Marc Gasol is the NBA's Best Defensive Player

Postby Finwë on Sun Mar 17, 2013 11:30 am

^^ I think Chandler and Noah are much more like a Marc Gasol than like Ibaka or McGee or Jordan. They aren't all over the place like those guys, they direct and conduct others with frequent comunication, they don't bite on pump fakes often, they play VERY good D against guards if they switch on screens...
Howard so far I'd say is kinda between both, sometimes he looks to block every shot and that can end up producing (directly or indirectly) bad results for us, and sometimes he looks much more like a true defensive anchor, talking with our guys, hedging on screens with great precision, boxing out, etc..
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Re: Why Marc Gasol is the NBA's Best Defensive Player

Postby kenzo on Sun Mar 17, 2013 2:17 pm

^ Awesome :man10: :bow:
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Postby Battle Tested20 on Sun Mar 17, 2013 3:13 pm

bystander wrote:Image

What a defensive beast :man10:
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Re: Why Marc Gasol is the NBA's Best Defensive Player

Postby Rooscooter on Sun Mar 17, 2013 5:37 pm

Finwë wrote:^^ I think Chandler and Noah are much more like a Marc Gasol than like Ibaka or McGee or Jordan. They aren't all over the place like those guys, they direct and conduct others with frequent comunication, they don't bite on pump fakes often, they play VERY good D against guards if they switch on screens...
Howard so far I'd say is kinda between both, sometimes he looks to block every shot and that can end up producing (directly or indirectly) bad results for us, and sometimes he looks much more like a true defensive anchor, talking with our guys, hedging on screens with great precision, boxing out, etc..


I can see that as well. Howard is sometimes all over the place and sometimes working in the team concept.
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Re: Why Marc Gasol is the NBA's Best Defensive Player

Postby dj vitus on Sun Mar 17, 2013 5:49 pm

Battle Tested20 wrote:
bystander wrote:Image

What a defensive beast :man10:

Oh come on guys, that was clearly product placement for Nike. Dude's gotta fulfill his contract obligations. :man9:
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