For God Sakes, just UNBAN Kroublees

For God Sakes, just UNBAN Kroublees

Postby nicehair911 on Sun Oct 28, 2007 9:25 pm

He's just gonna keep making new usernames and get into arguments. He called someone an idiot like a couple months ago, he explained his reasoning and still stands by his decision.

He's a diehard Laker fan and just keeps coming back, he survived for 2000 posts I think at the worst he deserved a temporary suspension, to ban a vet like that and force him to just make new accounts is ridiculous. Let's end the tomfoolery and give him his original account back and a slap on the wrist.

I mean is anyone tired of seeing him comeback with a new name everyweek? It's not like the dude is personally attacking anyone or purposely trying to pick fights.
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Postby KRC18 on Sun Oct 28, 2007 9:39 pm

:man10:

Maybe he had other warnings etc to warrant the ban.
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Postby Black Sheep91 on Sun Oct 28, 2007 10:31 pm

I think its funny having him come back every week with a new ridiculous name. But I do agree he should have a 2nd chance, at least 1 more chance.

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Postby Lakerman JSJ on Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:04 am

What kind of message would the staff be sending if we were to un-ban members we feel broke the rules enough times to warrant banishment just because they're computer-savvy enough to manipulate the CL site a few times and keep making different usernames?

I can't speak for the entire staff, but he will not be un-banned because he was warned to stop breaking the rules and continued to do so which warranted banishment.
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Re: For God Sakes, just UNBAN Kroublees

Postby Chicano on Mon Oct 29, 2007 11:47 am

nicehair911 wrote:He's a diehard Laker fan and just keeps coming back, he survived for 2000 posts I think at the worst he deserved a temporary suspension, to ban a vet like that and force him to just make new accounts is ridiculous. Let's end the tomfoolery and give him his original account back and a slap on the wrist.

It's not like the dude is personally attacking anyone or purposely trying to pick fights.


I agree, besides that one "idiot" event, I've never really seen no wrong in him, he's a good guy imo. :bow:
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Postby CrazyLikeCatfish on Mon Oct 29, 2007 12:53 pm

He's very creative with his usernames, I'll give him that. I do believe in second chances, but that's up to the mods, not me.
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Postby TXLAKERFAN on Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:23 pm

IIRC I believe the final straw was in the "suicide" thread in which he called the guy an idiot or whatever. Now I know it was not a "joking" manner but I think the outcome of the events were "questionable" and Kroubless was possibly right. Now if that was his third strike or the caused for banishment I would agree that maybe it should be reviewed.
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Postby nicehair911 on Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:35 pm

Lakerman JSJ wrote:What kind of message would the staff be sending if we were to un-ban members we feel broke the rules enough times to warrant banishment just because they're computer-savvy enough to manipulate the CL site a few times and keep making different usernames?

I can't speak for the entire staff, but he will not be un-banned because he was warned to stop breaking the rules and continued to do so which warranted banishment.


It just seems imature to me to keep having him come back I mean we're all adults Kroublees isn't some troll, he's not hurting anyone.

I mean not that I care whether he's here or not it's just that I thought it's kind of ridiculous for the staff to just ignore the situation, especially when the guy was a pretty decent poster for a long time.

It's not about sending a message, it's not like people are gonna go crazy because they think they won't get banned.
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Postby Lakerman JSJ on Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:51 pm

nicehair911 wrote:
Lakerman JSJ wrote:What kind of message would the staff be sending if we were to un-ban members we feel broke the rules enough times to warrant banishment just because they're computer-savvy enough to manipulate the CL site a few times and keep making different usernames?

I can't speak for the entire staff, but he will not be un-banned because he was warned to stop breaking the rules and continued to do so which warranted banishment.


It just seems imature to me to keep having him come back I mean we're all adults Kroublees isn't some troll, he's not hurting anyone.

I mean not that I care whether he's here or not it's just that I thought it's kind of ridiculous for the staff to just ignore the situation, especially when the guy was a pretty decent poster for a long time.

It's not about sending a message, it's not like people are gonna go crazy because they think they won't get banned.


And you know this how? There's a reason people are banned. It's a last resort to a problem. Chances to correct what some staffers feel is problematic behavior are given. This certainly isn't a one-and-done type of site. We never want to or enjoy banning a member, but sometimes feel it's necessary because of one reason or another.
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Postby nicehair911 on Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:59 pm

Lakerman JSJ wrote:
nicehair911 wrote:
Lakerman JSJ wrote:What kind of message would the staff be sending if we were to un-ban members we feel broke the rules enough times to warrant banishment just because they're computer-savvy enough to manipulate the CL site a few times and keep making different usernames?

I can't speak for the entire staff, but he will not be un-banned because he was warned to stop breaking the rules and continued to do so which warranted banishment.


It just seems imature to me to keep having him come back I mean we're all adults Kroublees isn't some troll, he's not hurting anyone.

I mean not that I care whether he's here or not it's just that I thought it's kind of ridiculous for the staff to just ignore the situation, especially when the guy was a pretty decent poster for a long time.

It's not about sending a message, it's not like people are gonna go crazy because they think they won't get banned.


And you know this how? There's a reason people are banned. It's a last resort to a problem. Chances to correct what some staffers feel is problematic behavior are given. This certainly isn't a one-and-done type of site. We never want to or enjoy banning a member, but sometimes feel it's necessary because of one reason or another.


Well it's just that in Kroublees case the banning was kind of contreversial and he knows how to be a good forum member. I just feel the staff is kind of being stubborn about this. In the end it is all up to the staff but I think Kroublees does have case to be unbanned.
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Postby Chicano on Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:14 pm

^ i completely agree with you nicehair on all levels 100%.
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Postby Kent K25 on Mon Oct 29, 2007 7:55 pm

Without knowing everything about the situation I support the staff. There is always more to it than regular forum members ever see.

I've yet to see any evidence to make me think this site's staff are ban happy.
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Postby strikemode14 on Mon Oct 29, 2007 8:43 pm

No way he should be unbanned.

Just becuase you keep coming back being nuisances doesn't mean you have the right to be unbanned.
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Postby Real Deal on Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:14 pm

If we unban him, we might as well unban all members and IP addresses as well.
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Postby JuanoLAL on Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:13 pm

:man10: My vote goes to NOT unbanning him. Keep him where he belongs... off of CL. You bring him back and that sends a very poor, mixed message about the moderation here. Good call guys.
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Postby BDG on Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:17 pm

If he's smart, he won't come back here.

And he's not getting unbanned either. He can find another place to talk Lakers.
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Postby LaLaKeRz4LiFe on Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:16 pm

he has another name now... :bang: :bang: :bang:
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Postby Weezy on Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:54 pm

LaLaKeRz4LiFe wrote:he has another name now... :bang: :bang: :bang:


If you're refering to Flips House I don't think that's him, it's just the same avatar. Flips House has been registered since 2005, Kroubles latest banned username is still right near the top of the last people to join the site on the memberlist.
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Postby TXLAKERFAN on Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:48 am

JuanoLAL wrote::man10: My vote goes to NOT unbanning him. Keep him where he belongs... off of CL. You bring him back and that sends a very poor, mixed message about the moderation here. Good call guys.



I believe that is the problem as even after he is banned they can't keep him off. I don't really keep up with who is who after they are banned and I guess I never paid enough attention to his post to know when its him or not. I thought his orignal banning was "questionable" but if he is just coming back to cause more problems then I guess they should continue banning him.
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Postby LaLaKeRz4LiFe on Sun Nov 04, 2007 2:36 pm

Weezy wrote:
LaLaKeRz4LiFe wrote:he has another name now... :bang: :bang: :bang:


If you're refering to Flips House I don't think that's him, it's just the same avatar. Flips House has been registered since 2005, Kroubles latest banned username is still right near the top of the last people to join the site on the memberlist.
no he had another one, he had a sig that even said he was Kroubbles. :man10: :freak2:
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Postby Sirron on Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:19 am

mods on this site are slow to ban. If a member gets banned, it is because they have pushed it too far too many times.

Even I have been warned before. :man4:

Yes, it's true.

Unfortunately our good man Kroublees chose not to quit when he had the chance. Just pushed it too far too many times I guess. Obviously he regrets it, or he wouldn't keep coming back. Mods have their reasons, but I can tell you first hand they are not quick to ban members.
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Postby blakeruns on Wed Nov 07, 2007 12:50 pm

JuanoLAL wrote::man10: My vote goes to NOT unbanning him. Keep him where he belongs... off of CL. You bring him back and that sends a very poor, mixed message about the moderation here. Good call guys.



qft.


why in the world should he be unbanned for continuing to reregister?
if anything that reinforces the ban, as it shows he cannot follow the rules here.
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