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MauriceA.J wrote:5 players for JO!!!! With the 2 rounders!!!! That's too much, and we couldv'e proposed that to KG......
Keep Walton and Javaris

bynum18 wrote:Bynum= Karrem Ablul jabbarr/ hakkem holajawon!!!

kickit wrote:You can pray all you want to Mitch to land Jermaine O'Neal, but to get him the lakers ARE GOING TO HAVE to give up both Bynum and Odom. Thats the serious truth. For many of you here on this site you have some wishfull thinking that the Pacers are just going to hand over O'Neal a 6 time All star whos just turned 28.

Crispy wrote:

Helljumper wrote:

Klewfish wrote:Bynum = Jefferson
Javaris = Green
Kwame = Ratliff
Cook = Telfair
Luke = Gomes
2 1sts = 2 1sts


That's comparing the players from this proposed trade to the KG trade. Not in overall talent but as far as Bynum/Jefferson being the designated "young stud big" and Javaris and Green being the designated "young potential guard" and Kwame/Ratliff being "cap relief" etc. If that was the deal, we could've had KG.

That's exactly how I felt.

No way is Bynum equal to Jefferson or Gomes equal to Walton. Jefferson is and will be the better player than Bynum, plain and simple. Gomes is very athletic, can board, play defense, AND score. He's the complete package and he's going to be a very good player. Walton's just a bench player that Laker fans overrate.

Kobe's Empire wrote:No idea if it was posted, I looked through and I didn't see anything.... but my friend called me and said Steve Hartman said

Bynum, Cook, Kwame, Walton, Javaris, and 2 FIRST ROUNDERS


for JO


I think it;s too much. I want to at least keep teh first 2 rounders or keep Javaris instead....I'd do Bynym Cook Kwame Walton and a First rounder....WE HAVE A SOLID 8 MAN ROTATION THEN FOR THE PLAYOFFS....or at least Keep Luke if you give up Javaris

But how stupid would we look if Bynum is a beast this year and javaris becomes a stud?

Fishy/Farmy/Javy
Kobe/Evy
Rady/Coby
Ody/Turiafy
JOy/Mihmy the 8 man rotation would be the starters and Farmer Turiaf and either Javy or Mihmy

MadMax wrote:jarvis, like Bynum, may prove to be a costly mistake to let them go, before the develop.

Crispy wrote:

Helljumper wrote:

Klewfish wrote:Bynum = Jefferson
Javaris = Green
Kwame = Ratliff
Cook = Telfair
Luke = Gomes
2 1sts = 2 1sts


That's comparing the players from this proposed trade to the KG trade. Not in overall talent but as far as Bynum/Jefferson being the designated "young stud big" and Javaris and Green being the designated "young potential guard" and Kwame/Ratliff being "cap relief" etc. If that was the deal, we could've had KG.

That's exactly how I felt.

No way is Bynum equal to Jefferson or Gomes equal to Walton. Jefferson is and will be the better player than Bynum, plain and simple. Gomes is very athletic, can board, play defense, AND score. He's the complete package and he's going to be a very good player. Walton's just a bench player that Laker fans overrate.

Crispy wrote:Won't give up Bynum AND Crittenton for JO.

DALakeshow wrote:Im to the point where id just rather keep the same team and let them develop. Kobe needs to understand that you cant build a championship contender overnight. Sometimes you got to grow together as team in to a contender.

Kobe wants a already made championship team, but it dont always work like that.

lakerskobe247 wrote:

DALakeshow wrote:Im to the point where id just rather keep the same team and let them develop. Kobe needs to understand that you cant build a championship contender overnight. Sometimes you got to grow together as team in to a contender.

Kobe wants a already made championship team, but it dont always work like that.

Celtics?

Paul wrote:

bynum18 wrote:Bynum= Karrem Ablul jabbarr/ hakkem holajawon!!!

Are u drunk?

KobeDunk10 wrote:

lakerskobe247 wrote:

DALakeshow wrote:Im to the point where id just rather keep the same team and let them develop. Kobe needs to understand that you cant build a championship contender overnight. Sometimes you got to grow together as team in to a contender.

Kobe wants a already made championship team, but it dont always work like that.

Celtics?

it took 1 month not overnight!

Helljumper wrote:

Crispy wrote:

Helljumper wrote:

Klewfish wrote:Bynum = Jefferson
Javaris = Green
Kwame = Ratliff
Cook = Telfair
Luke = Gomes
2 1sts = 2 1sts


That's comparing the players from this proposed trade to the KG trade. Not in overall talent but as far as Bynum/Jefferson being the designated "young stud big" and Javaris and Green being the designated "young potential guard" and Kwame/Ratliff being "cap relief" etc. If that was the deal, we could've had KG.

That's exactly how I felt.

No way is Bynum equal to Jefferson or Gomes equal to Walton. Jefferson is and will be the better player than Bynum, plain and simple. Gomes is very athletic, can board, play defense, AND score. He's the complete package and he's going to be a very good player. Walton's just a bench player that Laker fans overrate.

I mean that what we're offering is similar but not as talented. Bynum is the young big with potential, Crittenton is the athletic guard, Kwame is the big expiring contract, Cook is filler, and Luke is a good role player.

Bynum isn't as talented as Jefferson, Crittenton hasn't played in the NBA yet, and Luke isn't as talented as Gomes.

But that's the point. We shouldn't be giving up equal talent that the Celtics gave up because JO isn't nearly as talented as KG.

With that said, I wouldn't pull the trigger on this trade. Replace Crittenton with Farmar and Luke with Evans and I'd do it.

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bynum=erick dampier at best if lucky maybe even antonio davis[/quote]

[quote="L4L wrote:
2005-2006 Season:
LAL @ NYK 12 minutes, 16 points, 4 rebounds

2006-2007 Season:
PHO(Amare) @ LAL 10/31/06 minutes, 18 pts, 9 rebounds, 5 assists, 7/11 shooting
MIN(KG) @ LAL11/07/06 29 minutes, 20 pts, 14 rebounds, 3 blocks, 6/9 shooting
CHI(BWall) @ LAL 11/19 28 minutes, 12 pts, 13 rebounds, 4 blocks, 5/10 shooting
LAL @ SAC 01/04/07 33 minutes, 15 pts, 11 rebounds, 3 blocks, 5/6 shooting
DEN(Camby) @ LAL 29 minutes, 19 pts, 10 rebounds, 6 blocks, 8/9 shooting
LAL @ HOU(Yao) 29 minutes, 11 points, 11 rebounds, 1 block, 5/11 shooting
LAL @ DEN(Camby) 19 minutes, 16 points, 7 rebounds, 1 steal, 7/8 shooting

Next was his 3 double-doubles in a row stretch
GSW @ LAL 32 minutes, 10 points, 15 rebounds, 4 assists, 4 blocks, 4/4 shooting
CHA @ LAL 39 minutes, 11 points, 16 rebounds, 7 blocks, 5/9 shooting
SAS(Duncan) @ LAL, 44 minutes, 14 pts, 11 rebounds, 1 block, 3 assists, 4/12 shooting

Another back-to-back double stretch
LAL @ WAS 36 minutes, 12 points, 13 rebounds, 2 assists, 1 steal, 1 block 5/9 shooting
LAL @ ATL 35 minutes, 14 points, 10 rebounds, 1 block, 5/9 shooting

L4L wrote:Bynum versus Jermaine O'Neal

Disclaimer(lol):
I'm not claiming that Bynum is going to be like JO, or anything even close to that. I just thought it might be an interesting comparison because we are considering swapping these players.

General:
Both Bynum and O'Neal went straight from the NBA to high school. Both were incredibly young coming into the league at the age of 17. They are both centers. They were both drafted by teams that were not in complete rebuilding mode. Jermaine O'Neal is a 6'11" power forward type player who was approximately 230lbs coming by age 18-19(reportedly). Andrew Bynum is a more massive person standing a tall 7'0" at 275-285 lbs.O'Neal was drafted 17th overall, and Bynum was drafted 10th overall.



Per 48 Minute Averages:
Bynum, JO
Points: 17.1 , 16.0
FG-FGA: 6.6-11.9, 6.7-13.9
FG%: 55.8 , 48.5
FT-FTA: 3.8-5.7, 2.7-5.3
FT%: 66.8 , 50.6
Rebounds: 13.0 , 11.9
Assists: 2.5 , 1.0
Blocks: 3.4, 3.4
Steals: 0.3 , 0.9
Turnovers: 3.1 , 3.3
Fouls: 6.7 , 6.0
Hollinger Rating: 15.4 , 12.7
NBA.com Effeciency Per 48: 26.04 , 20.26

Advantage Bynum on everything but steals and fouls(both by less than one).



Top 3 Performances by each player (in their 19 year old season):

Bynum:
DEN @ LAL 29 minutes, 19 pts, 10 rebounds, 6 blocks, 8/9 shooting
MIN @ LAL 29 minutes, 20 pts, 14 rebounds, 3 blocks, 6/9 shooting
PHO @ LAL 24 minutes, 18 pts, 9 rebounds, 5 assists, 7/11 shooting

O'Neal:
DEN @ POR 36 minutes, 21 pts, 9 rebounds, 2 blocks, 9/12 shooting
GSW @ POR 34 minutes, 18 pts, 12 rebounds, 3 blocks, 7/12 shooting
POR @ SEA 30 minutes, 14 points, 13 rebounds, 4 blocks, 5/9 shooting

More Trivial Game Statistics:
Bynum and O'Neal
Games with 20+ Points: 1, 1
Games with 10+ Rebounds: 12 , 3
Double-doubles: 10 , 2



Stat line in games receiving 30+ minutes:


Make of it what you may.

Kobe's Empire wrote:No idea if it was posted, I looked through and I didn't see anything.... but my friend called me and said Steve Hartman said

Bynum, Cook, Kwame, Walton, Javaris, and 2 FIRST ROUNDERS


for JO


I think it;s too much. I want to at least keep teh first 2 rounders or keep Javaris instead....I'd do Bynym Cook Kwame Walton and a First rounder....WE HAVE A SOLID 8 MAN ROTATION THEN FOR THE PLAYOFFS....or at least Keep Luke if you give up Javaris

But how stupid would we look if Bynum is a beast this year and javaris becomes a stud?

Fishy/Farmy/Javy
Kobe/Evy
Rady/Coby
Ody/Turiafy
JOy/Mihmy the 8 man rotation would be the starters and Farmer Turiaf and either Javy or Mihmy