C Butler for K Brown according to Vecsey in the NY Post

Postby LakersCourt on Tue Jul 12, 2005 11:29 am

I don't want DIXON :mad1: :disagree: :bang:

I want HAYES :jam2: :man13: :bow:


Well, they have Caron who can play the 2 guard and the 3.. Maybe we could give them Sasha Vujacic if they want a guard so badly.

Lakers trade:

Caron Butler
Sasha Vujacic
Stanislav Medvedenko


Washington trades:
Kwame Brown
Jarvis Hayes

DO IT MITCH :jam2:
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Postby Xepa on Tue Jul 12, 2005 11:39 am

What's up with people getting Hayes. :phone: this just in, the Wizards just loss a swingman and are looking to ADD ONE IN BUTLER. Why would they give away one of their best swingmen when they're trading for one. Don't give me that "well we have george/luke" there's a reason why we don't want them, ya think Washington doesn' notice?
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Postby lakerfool on Tue Jul 12, 2005 11:44 am

LakersCourt wrote:I don't want DIXON :mad1: :disagree: :bang:

I want HAYES :jam2: :man13: :bow:


Well, they have Caron who can play the 2 guard and the 3.. Maybe we could give them Sasha Vujacic if they want a guard so badly.

Lakers trade:

Caron Butler
Sasha Vujacic
Stanislav Medvedenko


Washington trades:
Kwame Brown
Jarvis Hayes

DO IT MITCH :jam2:


And I'm telling you, YOU CAN'T GET HAYES. He's pretty much untradeable

So I guess you have to live w/ Dixon :man11:
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Postby lakerfool on Tue Jul 12, 2005 11:45 am

insertwittynamehere wrote:What's up with people getting Hayes. :phone: this just in, the Wizards just loss a swingman and are looking to ADD ONE IN BUTLER. Why would they give away one of their best swingmen when they're trading for one. Don't give me that "well we have george/luke" there's a reason why we don't want them, ya think Washington doesn' notice?


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Postby JSM on Tue Jul 12, 2005 12:15 pm

lakerfool wrote:Here's the one key stat everyone tends to forget

7 feet tall, 250 lbs of raw muscle. If we can ever get him motivated, then we automatically have a solid big for years to come.

If we get Caron motivated, we still have a swingman, in which comes a dime a dozen inthe league

but that if is as likely to happen as...if Shaq ever stops talking about the Lakers.
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Postby JSM on Tue Jul 12, 2005 12:18 pm

insertwittynamehere wrote:What's up with people getting Hayes. :phone: this just in, the Wizards just loss a swingman and are looking to ADD ONE IN BUTLER. Why would they give away one of their best swingmen when they're trading for one. Don't give me that "well we have george/luke" there's a reason why we don't want them, ya think Washington doesn' notice?

Well, if they are unwilling to part with Hayes, then I would accept nothing less than them adding Dixon and Blatche to the deal.
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Postby lakerfool on Tue Jul 12, 2005 12:21 pm

jsm0331 wrote:
lakerfool wrote:Here's the one key stat everyone tends to forget

7 feet tall, 250 lbs of raw muscle. If we can ever get him motivated, then we automatically have a solid big for years to come.

If we get Caron motivated, we still have a swingman, in which comes a dime a dozen inthe league

but that if is as likely to happen as...if Shaq ever stops talking about the Lakers.


Well, he never really had a true mentor in Wash. And actually, in his 3rd season, put up a solid 10 pts, 8 reb, 48% shooting a game. I'd give him a change of scenery and see what he can do, ESPECIALLY if Dixon is included in such a deal
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Postby Xepa on Tue Jul 12, 2005 12:22 pm

A Peter Vescey thread going on 12 pages, eh who would have thunk?
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Postby Lakerman JSJ on Tue Jul 12, 2005 12:38 pm

1. Kwame Brown (6-11 240 lbs.) Glynn Academy (HS)

Positives: The most gifted player in the draft, Brown is a great athlete with exceptional basketball skills. He can handle the ball like a guard and has a good-looking stroke from 15 to 17 feet. Brown also has good floor vision and passes extremely well. Brown is currently at his best when he faces up and takes people off the dribble using an excellent crossover dribble. Defensively, Brown is a devastating shotblocker with superb leaping ability, timing and reach. Because of his combination of size, strength and skill, Brown is often compared to Chris Webber and Kevin Garnett. At this point, Brown has a much more NBA-ready physique than Garnett had coming out of high school.

Negatives: Unfortunately, Brown does not enjoy posting up offensively and takes far too many three-pointers. Despite Garnett-level skills, Brown has yet to demonstrate the burning competitiveness that Garnett exhibited at the same stage of development.

Prognosis: Perhaps the best way to describe Kwame Brown is to say that he has the frame and physical skills of an Antonio McDyess and the basketball skills of a young Danny Manning. Brown could develop into a potential franchise player if he works hard on his game. Peak Projection: 22 ppg 10 rpg 4 apg 2.5 bpg


I pulled this off of a forum in LG which obviously is an assesment of Kwame just after the '01 draft.

Obviously this kid was (and still is) oozing with potential. Now I know that busts happen all the time, but I think its worth a shot to take a strong 6'11" kid with all the tools to be great with Caron Butler who is obviously expendable due to our abundance of swingmen.
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Postby LakersCourt on Tue Jul 12, 2005 12:48 pm

I have a good hunch that this is going to go through and Kwame will be a Laker :jam2:
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Postby JSM on Tue Jul 12, 2005 12:53 pm

insertwittynamehere wrote:A Peter Vescey thread going on 12 pages, eh who would have thunk?

It would have stopped, if DA didn't add some fuel to the fire, with his credibility.
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Postby LakersCourt on Tue Jul 12, 2005 1:31 pm

Fox Sports just reported that the Lakers are just about to pull the trigger on this trade. They didn't mention any other players involved, but it seems very likely that Caron will be with Washington next year. :jam2:
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Postby Kingsama on Tue Jul 12, 2005 1:40 pm

LakersCourt wrote:Fox Sports just reported that the Lakers are just about to pull the trigger on this trade. They didn't mention any other players involved, but it seems very likely that Caron will be with Washington next year. :jam2:

http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/36595/20050712/a_kwame_for_caron_deal_brewing/
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Postby Xepa on Tue Jul 12, 2005 1:41 pm

It's on ESPN....I can't believe it's straight up....there better be pic involved...
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Postby JSM on Tue Jul 12, 2005 1:42 pm

LakersCourt wrote:Fox Sports just reported that the Lakers are just about to pull the trigger on this trade. They didn't mention any other players involved, but it seems very likely that Caron will be with Washington next year. :jam2:

I swear, if Mitch does this trade and we don't get more than just Kwame, I will storm Staples Center and demand 3 things:
"Pay Me!"...oh wait, it's already been done.

Well, I guess I will settle for, "What the hell were you thinking?" And demand that he quits.
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Postby Kingsama on Tue Jul 12, 2005 1:44 pm

insertwittynamehere wrote:It's on ESPN....I can't believe it's straight up....there better be pic involved...


it cant be straight up unless Kwame resigned for less...
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Postby Kobe&Bynum on Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:00 pm

Wow the Lakers may have just traded a 10th pick in the first round of the draft for the number 1 pick and I think it was a bad trade.

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Postby JSM on Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:53 pm

I'm shipping this over to the Trade Rumors forum
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