Lakers pursuing Stromile Swift

no thanks .. i'd rather have a banger than a leaper for our starting PF

As overrated as he might be he is still worth MLE type of money. He is too weak to be an inside force but you get some shot blocking, some rebounds, some points too. It IS a good sign that Mitch tries to lure him but he isn´t the most likely guy to end here.

i don't know much about the money issues. i am clueless, if we use the mle can we get anything else, or are we just done. to further clarify, can we use the lle and one mle or no?

eNlight wrote:i don't know much about the money issues. but i am clueless, if we use the mle can we get anything else, or are we just done. to further clarify, can we use the lle and one mle or no?

Well we are over the cap. that means we have 2 exceptions.
The midlevel exception =4.9 mio.
The lowerlevel exception=1.6 mio.
If we use the MLE for Swift (for example) we would have a LLE for a player (most likely a vet or a journeyman).
So you can say MLE is the ONLY valuable exception to get FAs usually.

KB8@CL wrote:

eNlight wrote:i don't know much about the money issues. but i am clueless, if we use the mle can we get anything else, or are we just done. to further clarify, can we use the lle and one mle or no?

Well we are over the cap. that means we have 2 exceptions.
The midlevel exception =4.9 mio.
The lowerlevel exception=1.6 mio.
If we use the MLE for Swift (for example) we would have a LLE for a player (most likely a vet or a journeyman).
So you can say MLE is the ONLY valuable exception to get FAs usually.

thanks

KB8@CL wrote:As overrated as he might be he is still worth MLE type of money.

For sure. The problem is we only got 1 MLE to offer.

He wants his pay day and that's not something we could give him, unless a sign and trade takes place. I think he will get more money from one of the other teams that are interested in him:
Knicks
Nets
Hawks
Hornets

The last two have the most two throw at him.

lakerfool wrote:

wingnut wrote:

lakerfool wrote:OVERRATED

What part of not earning playing time from 2 legendary coaches makes this guy worth anything to us

Have you actually seen him play instead of just looking at his stats? The guy gets murdered when trying to guard bigger post players

He is good at blocking shtos fromt he weakside, and is good at jamming it. But other than that, that's about all he's really good at

He has little post game, again gets murdered by bigger PF's, no outside game, and yet he might get paid OVER the MLE

He deserves the MLE, maybe a little more, but not the FAT contract speculator's predict he's going to get

Amen lakerfool! I have the same assessments of the Stro Sho. Even if you are just focusing on his stats those rebounding numbers suck! Not only are they low for a PF, they are consistently low throughout his career.

I wouldn't even waste our MLE on him, but it's being reported in the NY Post this morning he and his agent are looking for $9 million / yr.

Hopefully, this is just another smokescreen. I'd rather go into the season with the PFs we have and wait til next year than have this bust under contract for 5 years.

number8 wrote:

lakerfool wrote:

wingnut wrote:

lakerfool wrote:OVERRATED

What part of not earning playing time from 2 legendary coaches makes this guy worth anything to us

Have you actually seen him play instead of just looking at his stats? The guy gets murdered when trying to guard bigger post players

He is good at blocking shtos fromt he weakside, and is good at jamming it. But other than that, that's about all he's really good at

He has little post game, again gets murdered by bigger PF's, no outside game, and yet he might get paid OVER the MLE

He deserves the MLE, maybe a little more, but not the FAT contract speculator's predict he's going to get

Amen lakerfool! I have the same assessments of the Stro Sho. Even if you are just focusing on his stats those rebounding numbers suck! Not only are they low for a PF, they are consistently low throughout his career.

I wouldn't even waste our MLE on him, but it's being reported in the NY Post this morning he and his agent are looking for $9 million / yr.

Hopefully, this is just another smokescreen. I'd rather go into the season with the PFs we have and wait til next year than have this bust under contract for 5 years.

thats a big amen from me, this guy is all flash and ZERO basketball substance. How does a 6'9'' athlete only bring done something like 5 rebounds a game???

C-Webb and Jrose--->more realistic.

Any guy that Jerry West lets walk away and retarded Isaiah Thomas (the worst GM ever) wants badly can't be a good thing, right?

Whatever Jerry touches turns to gold; and, lately, whatever Isaiah touches turns to [Swearing is not permitted at Clublakers. You must edit this post prior to submitting.].

Am I wrong for feeling a bit uneasy about this?

the only way tha lakers would be able to pick up swift is if brian grant doesn't exercise that option becomes a free-agent and let someone else pick up that loaded contract. or a sign & trade deal but that won't ever happen.[/b]

Bigs are valuable in this league. If Phoenix isn't offering him much to return, I hope everyone has their eyes open to see him for the player he is. You can't pay someone for what you hope they will become when you only have exceptions to work with. The minimum exception sounds like a fit, but surely someone will overpay for him.

I will never offer the MLL to Swift, I will do that with Kwan Brown, who is a lot better player than Swift. Brown will have to work his tail in order to proof that Washington was wrong about him , and that will benefit us a lot . Swift had the chance in Mem, but he let it go .
Not with MLL , we have to use it wisely , as this is our only way of getting a better player in the FA market.

i know we have a MLE not a MLL but kwame is second on the list to stro my friend

plennt thinks the knicks have him; plennt is disapointed

plennt wrote:plennt thinks the knicks have him; plennt is disapointed

Well KB8 think plennt is completely wrong. KB( believes NO is the front runner to sign him and KB8 thinks plennt should learn to talk proper english. KB8 thanks in advance.

swift is good


he just never got minutes........check his stats when he gets PT!

starting and playing 36 mins he'll average 15 an 8rebs and 2blks, i guarantee.


he has a good jump shot too which will be good for the triangle and he's a good finisher.........he's not sorry.....

if he got the mins Kmart got on the nets, and with kidd he'd put up just as good #'s....

I think Swift and Kwame would each make a valuable contribution to the Lakers - I think both would be bench players though to be honest. Swift would add more instant lift and is the type of bench player that can turn a game around.

Kwame is more future though, with a bigger body that may prove more useful. Although both are possible I don't think we'll land either of these two right now.

Better fit for the Lakers would be Hunter, but I feel that we may not get him either! Lakers, think defence defence defence!

flexxdzl wrote:Memphis will help us if we help them.....(snt)......we will have to take jay will and poss.........bonzi...off their hands... the teade would be someting like....

jay will bonzi and swift for caron....sahsa...devan and..cook..and slava..

I did not do trade checker... but just giving........and example...

swift is a free agent, no need to trade.

perfecto31 wrote:

flexxdzl wrote:Memphis will help us if we help them.....(snt)......we will have to take jay will and poss.........bonzi...off their hands... the teade would be someting like....

jay will bonzi and swift for caron....sahsa...devan and..cook..and slava..

I did not do trade checker... but just giving........and example...

swift is a free agent, no need to trade.

If to the Lakers yeah. The Lakeshow has no room to offer over MLE, so to get market for him, we'd have to trade for him. Sorry, don't want to overpay for an overrated player

Samarian wrote:i know we have a MLE not a MLL but kwame is second on the list to stro my friend

Why should we want Kwame? He's gonna get tossed under Phil.

Latest is he's going to Houston to team with Yao. How much cap room does Houston have? Any more than the MLE? Swift can help a team especially if he gets the mid level. He was buried behind a star in Gasol.

Remember when Ben Wallace was stuck behind Webber and Howard in Washington? He got traded to Detroit and the rest is history. Players like Swift can't contribute from the bench. Mitch, go get this guy! He's not bad!

lakeshow2k4 wrote:Remember when Ben Wallace was stuck behind Webber and Howard in Washington? He got traded to Detroit and the rest is history. Players like Swift can't contribute from the bench. Mitch, go get this guy! He's not bad!

You're comparing Kwame to Big Ben?

Best defensive big man vs the PF version of Gump