Lamar for Ilgauskas

Lamar for Ilgauskas

Postby G on Tue Jun 06, 2006 9:55 pm ... ing-steam/

Although the Cavaliers’ season has been over for a week, the construction of a possible future NBA power is about to enter another stage this summer.

The biggest news coming out of Quicken Loans Arena this week focused on two-time All-Star center Zydrunas Ilgauskas. Reports circulated on Thursday indicating that the Cavs are open to trading Z this summer. Even more rumors chirped in by claiming that the Cavaliers had already received inquiries about Z’s availability and Cleveland’s willingness to deal him.
Zydrunas Ilgauskas
Ilgauskas: could be moved this summer

There are a number of reasons the Cavs would want to move Ilgauskas. Although Z’s numbers from this season were consistent with his best career statistics, many close to the team don’t believe he fits in well with the Cavaliers’ evolving playing style. LeBron James is an electrifying full-court player who is one of the game’s best in transition. Players like (a healthy) Larry Hughes, shooters like Damon Jones and Donyell Marshall, and hustlers like Anderson Varejao fit that style. Back-to-the-basket centers who are best utilized in a halfcourt set do not. Officials from other teams as well as some of the Cavs’ players told the Akron Beacon Journal that they believe Z is not used as much as he should be in the Cavaliers’ current offensive scheme.

But to be fair, there was a time when Z’s style was the hallmark of the Cavaliers. Z sabotaged that era with his many foot surgeries. Now, with a new franchise cornerstone in place for three seasons, that era is long over. And it certainly didn’t help that, even at 7′3″, Ilgauskas’ reluctance to box out on the boards was exposed in Cleveland’s Game Six loss to Detroit in the East semifinals. It led to four Detroit offensive rebounds and massacred almost any hopes the Cavs had of winning the game in regulation.

Other than that, Ilgauskas fits this new Cavaliers team quite nicely.

But there are, in fact, teams across the league where Z fits in even more nicely. And that should be evident by the fact that Ilgauskas and Varejao are the two players that the Cavs have received the most inquiries about throughout the season. However, keep in mind that Cavaliers general manager Danny Ferry is the one who pushed the hardest last summer to get Z re-signed. Also remember that Ferry is an ex-teammate of Ilgauskas and also remains good friends with him. So, instead of asking yourself, “Who would want Z?”, ask yourself, “Is Ferry man enough to pull the trigger on a trade involving Z?”

If the answer is yes, then fear not: there are many possible takers.

The Lakers, Celtics, Timberwolves, Trail Blazers, and (everyone’s favorite trading partner!) the Knicks are all teams that could improve with the addition of a bona fide center like Ilgauskas. Of those, the Lakers seem to be the most viable trading partner. Z fits Phil Jackson’s triangle offense like a glove. He may not be the second coming of Shaq, but the fact that Z’s strengths are maximized in a halfcourt set should appeal to Jackson. Although Ilgauskas is merely an average rebounder for his size, blame that on his poor defensive rebounding. He is still one of the league’s best offensive rebounders and can create many opportunities for second-chance points. Although the Lakers traditionally like to open up the floor and play a fullcourt style of basketball, Jackson’s triangle is a complicated system that benefits from (but does not absolutely require) an offensive-minded center capable of scoring 15 points per game.

Which brings us to the player from the Lakers’ roster that the Cavaliers can use the most.
Lamar Odom
Lamar Odom: may interest Cavs

There was a report at the trading deadline this season indicating that the Cavaliers were showing a serious interest in forward Lamar Odom. Cleveland was looking to use Odom as a temporary replacement for the injured Larry Hughes before settling on Flip Murray. According to that same report, the Cavs balked at a deal when Los Angeles requested that Varejao be made part of the trade. Smartly, Ferry declined. But the same report states that “Odom will definitely be moved in the offseason” and “The Lamar Odom experiment has come to an end. The Lakers want to move on.”

The Cavs would be wise to still be in the Odom sweepstakes. While the likes of Kevin Garnett and unrestricted free agent Jason Terry (who will command much more money than the Cavs have under the salary cap) may be nothing more than a pipe dream, Odom is a player who can definitely take the Cavs to the next level. While the Lakers are trying to run more of a structured offense, the Cavaliers are looking to run-and-gun more. Odom fits that style to a tee. He is a long, 6′10″, 230-pound rising star who can play either small or power forward. Odom has played power forward during his season with the Miami Heat in the 2003-04 season and for most of this past season with the Lakers. In each of the last two seasons, he has pulled down more rebounds per game than the Cavs’ leading rebounder. In the last three years dating back to his time with the Miami Heat, he is averaging 9.6 rebounds per game. Keep in mind that Cavs restricted free agent Drew Gooden led the team in boards last year with 9.2 and this season with 8.4.

At the age of 26, Odom is just entering the prime of his career. He has three-point range and tied a career-high by canning 80 three-pointers this season. Although he is just a 32 percent shooter from beyond the arc in his career, he is still a triple-double threat every time he hits the floor. Before LeBron James became the youngest player to record a triple-double in the NBA, that mark was held by none other than Odom. He is an excellent ball-handler for a player his size and can bring the rock up the floor whenever needed. His 14.8 points per game average last year was off his career mark of 15.8, probably hindered by the fact that he was on the same team as Kobe Bryant.

With Ilgauskas making around $9.5 million next year, Odom will be on the books for a little over $12 million. Z has four years left on his deal while Odom’s deal is done after the 2008-09 season. Should the teams want to swap these players straight up, it barely works under the league’s collective bargaining agreement. But the bottom line is: it works.

Although Lamar Odom is not the only player that can be netted via Ilgauskas, he would be the closest thing to netting an All-Star in return for Z. That is, assuming that Isiah Thomas doesn’t give Danny Ferry a buzz offering multiple lottery picks (at least the few he has left that haven’t gone to Chicago in the Eddy Curry deal) and Channing Frye.

It has been quite a run for Zydrunas Ilgauskas, and Cavaliers fans should salute him for his eight full seasons of service with the organization. However, times change. And if the Cavs want to get better under the direction of LeBron James, it’s obvious that Big Z is no longer the right fit on this young, up-and-coming team.

Lamar For Ilgauskas?

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Postby no_dont on Tue Jun 06, 2006 10:04 pm

If we trade LO for Z. Well lets just say that had better not happen
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Postby Rabbit on Tue Jun 06, 2006 10:06 pm

no_dont wrote:If we trade LO for Z. Well lets just say that had better not happen
Kupchak would need a bulletproof helmet. That would be so stupid.
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Postby timmyjustin12 on Tue Jun 06, 2006 10:17 pm

LO for Z. No thanks.
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Postby Mark McNamara on Tue Jun 06, 2006 10:17 pm

I was actually for a LO for Z trade....when we still had Caron. I don't see why we would do that trade now because we don't have a replacement for LO, he has stepped up big time, our future at the C position is pretty much short, hell no to that trade.
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Postby LO7cK35 on Tue Jun 06, 2006 10:24 pm

with that trade Cleveland would become an elite team, and well us.. itd be like the 04-05 season all over again
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Postby ggamannom on Tue Jun 06, 2006 10:52 pm

give us lebron with that too and it's a good deal :man13:
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Postby TaniBoyz on Tue Jun 06, 2006 10:56 pm

Odom, George and Mihm for Z, Gooden, LeBron and Flip :man1:
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Postby Weezy on Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:23 pm

Odom for Z straight up is not woth it on our end. If they were to thrown in an extra quality player then maybe, but I'd rather have Lamar than Z anyday.
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Postby KB24 on Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:27 pm

thi is such a stupid article...

1.Ziggy sucks.
2.La has Kwame and Bynum and Mihm, why would they want an aging soft Ilguaskas?
3.Lamar´s stock has been rising ever since the break
4.If Lamar and Kobe doesn´t work, Lamar and LeBron won´t work neither.
5.Lamar is IMO definitely not on the table right now. He has been great since the break and Jackson won´t waste the triangle learning year his faciliator has under his belt. You don´t win championship by changing your players every year. CONSISTENCY comes with stability.
6. If LA trades Lamar for Ziggy they have a HUGE GAP at the forward position and 4 C´s.

NOT going to happen. Just a dumb article.
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Postby LUUUKE on Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:30 pm

lucky we have jim buss
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Postby kobezaballa on Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:37 pm

ODOM for huges and Z and we gots us a deal

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Postby The Kobe Era 2K5 on Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:08 am

It will never happen.
And that article is BS.
I'd believe for about 10% if ESPN or would write something like that, but it was wrote by unknown Cleveland website...
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Postby FutureLakerGM on Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:12 am

That would be the worst trade ever, we're taking a huge step back while Cleveland becomes an elite team. :bang: No other player on the Cavs worth trading for aside from Lebron
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Postby The Laker Link on Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:32 am

no_dont wrote:If we trade LO for Z. Well lets just say that had better not happen

I say we can do better...if we did this it would be good at Center...but then we'd be empty at SF unless Luke starts and George ended up getting re-signed...I think unless Phil said "Go ahead" on Odom....that this guy has been on the pipe too much saying the Odom experiment is just did Kwame's so....

But whatever...anything can happen....
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Postby snakepit on Wed Jun 07, 2006 2:15 am

Ah, women. They make the highs higher and the lows more frequent.

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Postby High IQ on Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:43 am

God please no
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Postby wavy on Wed Jun 07, 2006 5:44 am

Although Lamar Odom is not the only player that can be netted via Ilgauskas, he would be the closest thing to netting an All-Star in return for Z. That is, assuming that Isiah Thomas doesn’t give Danny Ferry a buzz offering multiple lottery picks (at least the few he has left that haven’t gone to Chicago in the Eddy Curry deal) and Channing Frye

this was funny :man10: :man10: :man10:
but anywasy i would never do this deal. we loose our best rebounder and we get nothing practicly since Z is getting old and i don't see him fitting in our team.
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Postby Black Sheep91 on Wed Jun 07, 2006 5:59 am

:hurl: this deal better not happen
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Postby lakerfanimal on Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:37 am

mitch, u better not do this :mad1:
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Postby Satan on Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:18 am

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Postby simpleomahadude on Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:38 am

The Only way we better ever trade Lamar Odom to the Cavs is if it involves #23, other then him, they have nobody who is worth it.

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Postby Flatlyner on Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:25 pm

I would be ashamed of the Lakers if this trade happened. If Lebron isn't involved, I don't really want anyone from Cleveland, and certainly not for Lamar.
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Postby slimjim on Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:29 pm

if this happens...

i will murder mitch :man10: haha j/k

but i will ge pissed :mad1:
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