Paul Pierce Rumors Heating Up

Postby mikeprints on Thu Jun 09, 2005 3:52 pm

that trade is ridiculous, we are going to be left with a balance to pay, pp is going to be 29 next year or is while lamar is ganna be 26, he's able to guard the mobile big men like dirk type players and he's a better defender. Plus if phil does come back to coach lamar is a better aset then pp in the triangle. pp is good but com'on our problem this year was defending not putting up points
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Postby eNlight on Fri Jun 10, 2005 12:05 am

MAN, how come Jerry Buss always has to be under the salary cap. Can't he be a nice guy and just use all his money to make these trades where we get expensive players. we as fans should not care about the money :] Mitch/Jerry, bring the expensive players in, have an all star of 5.
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Postby remixed on Fri Jun 10, 2005 12:08 am

eNlight wrote:MAN, how come Jerry Buss always has to be under the salary cap. Can't he be a nice guy and just use all his money to make these trades where we get expensive players. we as fans should not care about the money :] Mitch/Jerry, bring the expensive players in, have an all star of 5.


Well it's his money and we're already over the cap. It's really hard for anyone just to spend money on a certain player.

And the idea with a 5 of all stars. We had one with 4 future hall of famers and that didn't work. Don't need 5 stars, just 5 players who can play defense and have chemistry.
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Postby JbOi112 on Fri Jun 10, 2005 12:13 am

remixed wrote:
eNlight wrote:MAN, how come Jerry Buss always has to be under the salary cap. Can't he be a nice guy and just use all his money to make these trades where we get expensive players. we as fans should not care about the money :] Mitch/Jerry, bring the expensive players in, have an all star of 5.


Well it's his money and we're already over the cap. It's really hard for anyone just to spend money on a certain player.

And the idea with a 5 of all stars. We had one with 4 future hall of famers and that didn't work. Don't need 5 stars, just 5 players who can play defense and have chemistry.

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Postby KB24 on Fri Jun 10, 2005 1:54 am

eNlight wrote:MAN, how come Jerry Buss always has to be under the salary cap. Can't he be a nice guy and just use all his money to make these trades where we get expensive players. we as fans should not care about the money :] Mitch/Jerry, bring the expensive players in, have an all star of 5.

From your posts so far I guess you do not have game knowledge right now but thats fine. You can learn here a lot. With the salary cap NBA has created something to exactly NOT allow the richer clubs to get all the all-stars and prevent the NBA from competetive distortions. The arms race will only kill the game and take away the excitement. We are ALWAYS over the cap and Buss ONLY would want to be under the cap to sign a big time FA. When you are over the cap you can´t get expensive players and since we are always over the cap Buss, if interested in a big time FA, has to make sure we have the cap space to sign him.
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Postby eNlight on Fri Jun 10, 2005 2:34 pm

KB8@CL wrote:
eNlight wrote:MAN, how come Jerry Buss always has to be under the salary cap. Can't he be a nice guy and just use all his money to make these trades where we get expensive players. we as fans should not care about the money :] Mitch/Jerry, bring the expensive players in, have an all star of 5.

From your posts so far I guess you do not have game knowledge right now but thats fine. You can learn here a lot. With the salary cap NBA has created something to exactly NOT allow the richer clubs to get all the all-stars and prevent the NBA from competetive distortions. The arms race will only kill the game and take away the excitement. We are ALWAYS over the cap and Buss ONLY would want to be under the cap to sign a big time FA. When you are over the cap you can´t get expensive players and since we are always over the cap Buss, if interested in a big time FA, has to make sure we have the cap space to sign him.


nope and you're right, i do not have a good knowledge of basketball. :cry:
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Postby KB24 on Fri Jun 10, 2005 2:37 pm

eNlight wrote:
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eNlight wrote:MAN, how come Jerry Buss always has to be under the salary cap. Can't he be a nice guy and just use all his money to make these trades where we get expensive players. we as fans should not care about the money :] Mitch/Jerry, bring the expensive players in, have an all star of 5.

From your posts so far I guess you do not have game knowledge right now but thats fine. You can learn here a lot. With the salary cap NBA has created something to exactly NOT allow the richer clubs to get all the all-stars and prevent the NBA from competetive distortions. The arms race will only kill the game and take away the excitement. We are ALWAYS over the cap and Buss ONLY would want to be under the cap to sign a big time FA. When you are over the cap you can´t get expensive players and since we are always over the cap Buss, if interested in a big time FA, has to make sure we have the cap space to sign him.

Nobody is born with knowledge so if you don´t know something you can elarn it. Do you think the experts here always knew what they know? NO so its a usual process that EVERYONE has togo through. Keep up visiting CL :man12: and you will be in good shape.

nope and you're right, i do not have a good knowledge of basketball. :cry:
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Postby eNlight on Sat Jun 11, 2005 2:18 pm

KB8@CL wrote:
eNlight wrote:
KB8@CL wrote:
eNlight wrote:MAN, how come Jerry Buss always has to be under the salary cap. Can't he be a nice guy and just use all his money to make these trades where we get expensive players. we as fans should not care about the money :] Mitch/Jerry, bring the expensive players in, have an all star of 5.

From your posts so far I guess you do not have game knowledge right now but thats fine. You can learn here a lot. With the salary cap NBA has created something to exactly NOT allow the richer clubs to get all the all-stars and prevent the NBA from competetive distortions. The arms race will only kill the game and take away the excitement. We are ALWAYS over the cap and Buss ONLY would want to be under the cap to sign a big time FA. When you are over the cap you can´t get expensive players and since we are always over the cap Buss, if interested in a big time FA, has to make sure we have the cap space to sign him.

Nobody is born with knowledge so if you don´t know something you can elarn it. Do you think the experts here always knew what they know? NO so its a usual process that EVERYONE has togo through. Keep up visiting CL :man12: and you will be in good shape.

nope and you're right, i do not have a good knowledge of basketball. :cry:


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Postby eNlight on Sat Jun 11, 2005 2:22 pm

DC_King wrote:If we do get P.P, is there any chance that we could trade him to the Pockets for T-Mac.

There was MJ and Pippen connection
And Now The Kobe and T-Mac connection.

Throw in a couple of role players, and the lakers would be set for life.


holy crap if that happend, im going to watch the lakers home game every night. so many dunks and fade away shots. i wouldn't care if we won a championship or not, its a history in the making! :man4:
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Postby crucifido on Sat Jun 11, 2005 6:04 pm

And that's the attitude that kills me -

"...so many dunks and fade away shots...I don't care if its championshhips..."

There's more to the game of baketball than the top 10 plays on SportsCenter. When people of previous generations (myself included) say that basketball (and sports in general) isn't as good as it was it's because this attitude prevails far too often.

Especially with the Lakers, the game is about winning. It may take a while and some fans are alright with that - as long as it leads to winning in the end. I don't want (and would never want) a team that dunks, shoots fade-aways and doe4sn't give a crap about winning.

And also - Paul Pierce? No thanks.
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Postby Vito Andolini on Sat Jun 11, 2005 6:20 pm

I'd give the #10 pick and Caron Butler for Pierce.
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Postby crucifido on Sat Jun 11, 2005 6:34 pm

That's a redundant trade (Butler for Pierce)along with giving up a vitally important pick.

Way too steep of a price for me.
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Postby Vito Andolini on Sat Jun 11, 2005 7:04 pm

Pierce is a consistant clutch 24 and 6 a game. Also good at firing up a team.

I've loved his game for a while, if we can get him for Butler or Odom I'd certainly consider it.
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Postby nosebleedbum on Sat Jun 11, 2005 9:50 pm

Does any think Mitch should be talking to DA? Mitch might go away with a sore bum again.

Does boston have any more players who they left unprotected in the expansion draft that he could trade to the lakers? Obviously if ainge deals with us, we'll lose our draft pick. Plus whoever we send them might not report and we'll have to take a player they would've waived. and eat his contract.

Pierce isn't a fit here. Caron is version of pierce. No need to give up a draft pick to get him.
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Postby Smallz on Sun Jun 12, 2005 11:45 pm

KB8@CL wrote: :man7: Thats not a good argument. I don´t speak about cap salary. LaFrentz making 12 mio. a year means you pay him 12 and add 12 mio. luxery tax. Now would you pay 24 mio. to have REAF LAFRENTZ? Okur volume 2? Who shoots threes and get fouls quicker than running the floor up and down? You must be kidding me.
BTW Mihm > LaFrentz period and MLE lets get Kwame or Hunter and they are both better than Reaf.


just to clear some things up dude. im not for this deal whatsoever. i like paul pierce but paul pierce and kobe together just doesnt sound like a good situation to me. my issue is that if for some unknown reason the deal did happen, i wouldnt be too terribly upset with getting lefrentz in the package. i mean, yeah, he's way overpayed and not worth his contract, but not many big men are now a days. he used to be one hell of a shot blocker when he was younger, and he'd at least be better than what we could snag w/ either of the exceptions.
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Postby JSM on Mon Jun 13, 2005 12:27 pm

JbOi112 wrote:Paul Pierce in a Lakers uni is not gonna happen anytime soon. Boston's actually rumored to be looking to trade Pierce for Portland's #3 and NVE... It was in INsider, which makes better sense than Pierce coming to LA... SO can't we just let this topic go?

I'll post that INsider when I get the chance to...

If the Blazers and Celtics had legs, they might have been cut off by Pierce. I posted an article in the NBA Discussion that said Pierce would not play for the Blazers, if traded there, he will take the fines, suspensions, or whatever is the punishment for not playing for the team. So, they might be looking at other possible deals. Even though I would like for us to get Pierce, I don't think we will. But it's more of a possibility now, since it's known that Pierce likes Los Angeles. If he is giving demands on where he is moved, one of the two LA teams might be on his "teams I will play for" list.
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Postby Sirron on Mon Jun 13, 2005 6:59 pm

nosebleedbum wrote:Does any think Mitch should be talking to DA? Mitch might go away with a sore bum again.

Does boston have any more players who they left unprotected in the expansion draft that he could trade to the lakers? Obviously if ainge deals with us, we'll lose our draft pick. Plus whoever we send them might not report and we'll have to take a player they would've waived. and eat his contract.

Pierce isn't a fit here. Caron is version of pierce. No need to give up a draft pick to get him.


You're hilarious man! :man9: :man9: :man9:
But oh the truth hurts sometimes! We don't need paul unless he can defend bigs. We scored enough, but we didn't defend worth cr** Can't wait for the draft to see what happens. Must admit, it's nice hearing some laker talk after relocating to Texas. Just found the site, and the volume of input is great. Some of you guys have got to be part time comedians. lol

Some of these trade ideas seem a little far fetched, but I've seen a few that actually make some great sense for both sides. I just don't think anyone is going to help the Lakers if they can help it. We may have to use all of our expiring contracts, draft picks, and duplicate talent to address our needs. NO ONE is going out of their way to help LA get back to the top.

Of course, then there is the PJ factor. If he wants to keep Caron, he stays. Who knows what he sees with this roster. Maybe he turns Mihm into Cartwright, revives Grant with some dojo mojo, and works some serious magic this year. I bet he can even get Vujacic to be a defensive stopper--ok maybe that's a stretch==it didn't work with Slava either. Love to see some Vets want to be here if PJ come though. That would make all of this much easier. :jam2:
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Postby nameant on Thu Jun 16, 2005 6:47 pm

pierce is highly overrated. he is a fake superstar and barely an all-star. the guy is lazy and slow.... that would be terrible..
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Postby KB24 on Fri Jun 17, 2005 12:48 am

nameant wrote:pierce is highly overrated. he is a fake superstar and barely an all-star. the guy is lazy and slow.... that would be terrible..

I guess we talk about Paul Pierce in the NBA and you talk about Marie Pierce from the WTA (women tennis assosiation). :man8:
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Postby Okki on Fri Jun 17, 2005 10:16 am

KB8@CL wrote:
nameant wrote:pierce is highly overrated. he is a fake superstar and barely an all-star. the guy is lazy and slow.... that would be terrible..

I guess we talk about Paul Pierce in the NBA and you talk about Marie Pierce from the WTA (women tennis assosiation). :man8:


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Postby TXLAKERFAN on Wed Jun 22, 2005 2:36 pm

I'd take PP for Odom anyday. I wonder when the hype around Odom will ever cease. Maybe after another average season.
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Postby KB24 on Wed Jun 22, 2005 2:56 pm

TXLAKERFAN wrote:I'd take PP for Odom anyday. I wonder when the hype around Odom will ever cease. Maybe after another average season.

WOW to me Odoms season was anything but average. Considering how our coaches used him (not used him) he did great. You must putt away your crack pipe. PP is nothing special.
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Postby High IQ on Wed Jun 22, 2005 3:25 pm

PP IS something special. I disagree that Odom will come out same as this year nex year, but Paul Pierce is if not better than Lamar, then quite on the same level as he.
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Postby nameant on Wed Jun 22, 2005 10:34 pm

Okki wrote:
KB8@CL wrote:
nameant wrote:pierce is highly overrated. he is a fake superstar and barely an all-star. the guy is lazy and slow.... that would be terrible..

I guess we talk about Paul Pierce in the NBA and you talk about Marie Pierce from the WTA (women tennis assosiation). :man8:


pierce ain't lazy but he is a little slow.



which is what i mean. he doesnt put forth the effort every night. he is an extremely poor man's kobe bryant. besides the fact that kobe is 10 times better at everything...kobe takes it to the rim and shoots 9-10 free throws a game. i dont know how many pierce shot a game this season...but i know in the playoffs he was just settling for stepback jumper after stepback jumper. LA doesnt need pierce...they need guys who are defensive minded...which is what phil has been talkin about since he was rehired. do you really think pierce would improve our defense? b/c it was terrible this season...
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Postby Sirron on Wed Jun 22, 2005 10:57 pm

I don't think the Lakers have ANY interest in PP. Makes no sense at all. :bang:
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