Phil & Kobe speak on Iverson

Phil & Kobe speak on Iverson

Postby thug_pound on Thu Dec 14, 2006 10:40 pm

The Los Angeles Lakers wouldn't even generate a mention in the Allen Iverson Sweepstakes if Phil Jackson, when asked about it over the weekend, hadn't gently tossed them into the derby.


A few days later?


There's really no new evidence to suggest that the Lakers are in this, or that they want to be, but Jackson isn't exactly backtracking from his original disclosure that he "wouldn't outright say we have no interest."


Without revealing whether L.A. is still contemplating a serious play for the league's top scorer, Jackson did insist Wednesday night that he had little doubt Iverson and Kobe Bryant could flourish in the same backcourt, not just co-exist.


"When I was with New York, we had a really good basketball team, [but] the chance to pursue Earl Monroe came to the Knicks ... which would give us [Bill] Bradley, [Dave] DeBusschere, [Willis] Reed, [Walt] Frazier and [Earl] Monroe," Jackson said.


"The natural assumption is, 'How are you going to accommodate a guy who scores 26 points a game and takes that many shots?' [But] when I expressed concern to Bill Bradley, he said, 'Oh, we'll fit him in, he's a good team player.' And we did.


"I think Allen's of the age," Jackson continued, "where he's ready to do [something similar]."


Well, then.


What's stopping the Lakers from making a run at the 31-year-old who scores 31 a game?


Why couldn't they join the leaders of the Iverson chase in Denver ... and the clubs (Minnesota, Boston and Indiana) trying to hang in?


They'd almost certainly need the help of a third team to acquire AI, but there are worse pieces to start building a package with than Andrew Bynum and future draft considerations.


There is likewise no coach in creation who'd have a better chance of getting Iverson's best.


The answer? The Lakers really don't need The Answer.


This isn't December 2005, when the Lakers' situation looked desperate. When it looked like they had to jump at any risky trade possibility in search of a home run.


This also isn't Ron Artest, whose defensive gifts and multi-position potential -- provided Jackson would have harnessed it -- could fill in some of the holes around Bryant better than Iverson.


L.A. already has a dynamic scorer. The Lakers also have a good bit more hope than they had this time last year, when Artest was made available by Indiana, because the shared ability of Jackson and Bryant -- and Phil's system -- has taken them so far in a year's time.


You used to hear D-League jokes about Kobe's supporting cast. Now? The Lakers have been sufficiently united, organized and lifted by the Jackson-and-Bryant tag team that -- despite doomsday predictions from yours truly after a nightmarish training camp -- they'll stay competitive in the West until the right trade opportunity presents itself. One that brings a better point guard than Smush Parker ... or the outside shooting L.A. still needs to open up the floor for Bryant ... or maybe more dependable size.


I'd be surprised to hear that Bryant went to his bosses to lobby for an Iverson trade, like he did for Artest, but not only because he's waiting for something better or the likelihood that he's less-than-thrilled with the idea. It's also because he takes an almost fatherly pride in the development of this crew.


How proud?


Kobe never shows public concern, even when it's understandable or when he probably is fretting, but he went out of his way Wednesday night to sound unworried, happily engaging in Iverson hypotheticals despite the seriously bad news confirmed just hours before: Lamar Odom will miss at least a month, and much of it on the road, with a sprained knee.


(Kobe's pre-game calm, incidentally, didn't look out of place when the Lakers, on the second night of a Texas back-to-back and in their first full game without Odom, guarded almost no one and still managed to rattle the reigning Western Conference champs with some execution and poise after halftime in Dallas' unconvincing 110-101 triumph.)


"It'd be interesting," Kobe said of an Iverson-Bryant backcourt. "It'd be a lot of competitive juices flowing. I don't mind it. I'm sure you [media] guys would have fun with that.


"I can't see [the Lakers] entertaining that, but for your column's sake, let's entertain that."


Thanks, Mamba.


"I got you," he said. "I got you."
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Postby thug_pound on Thu Dec 14, 2006 10:46 pm

you can find this o n espn.go.com insider will be free until the 17th of this month.
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Postby Weezy on Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:03 pm

Insider is free right now, how come it asks me to pay when I click on these stories then? Anyway, this was already posted in the Iverson thread on the Lakers Discussion board. Interesting stuff, but nothing will come of it.
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Postby KobeSystemtwofour on Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:24 pm

I would not mind if we have a KB24 AI3 Back Court at all
“If somebody had their life on the line, and they’ve got their options on who they want to save their life – tell me who you’re going to pick?” Bryant asked. “You’re going to look at the stats first?”
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Postby thug_pound on Fri Dec 15, 2006 2:04 pm

Iverson deals: The Bobcats factorposted: Thursday, December 14, 2006 | Print Entry
filed under: NBA, Allen Iverson, Charlotte Bobcats

Nobody's writing or talking about it much, but there's one person out there -- and you've probably heard of him before -- who can be a huge, huge factor in determining Allen Iverson's future home.

He's none other than Charlotte Bobcats basketball operations chief Michael Jordan, and he could be a major power broker in the Iverson trade saga because he's the one guy in the entire NBA who can make just about any deal happen by brokering a three- or four-team trade.

Iverson wouldn't end up in Charlotte, mind you (and if you believe everything you read, he doesn't want to play there, either), but would be traded through the Bobcats to someone else.

Here's how: In most NBA trades, the salaries of the players being traded for one another must be within 125 percent of each other, plus $100,000. But if one of the teams in the deal is under the salary cap, that rule goes out the window, and the salaries no longer have to "match."

In this case, the Bobcats currently have a payroll of $37.77 million, leaving them about $14.4 million below the salary cap of $53.135 million. In other words, they have $14.4 million in cap space. So in order to take on Iverson's $17.2 million salary, they'd have to move $2.8 million worth of salary -- and Jordan could do that by including Brevin Knight ($4.4 million) or Melvin Ely ($3.3 million, trade-eligible Jan. 2) in a three- or four-team deal (perhaps sending him to one of the two teams with newly acquired injury exceptions, the Lakers (Chris Mihm) or Trail Blazers (Darius Miles). That's why Bobcats coach Bernie Bickerstaff was talking about being eager to be a trade facilitator for the 76ers, and why Jordan could still play a big part in getting Iverson routed to one of the marquee teams (Lakers? Heat?) trying to enter the mix.

"This is like an estate sale. You're crazy if you don't try to get in on it," one Western Conference executive told me this evening, saying the Bobcats are crazy if they're not heavily involved. "They [the 76ers] want three things -- a young player, a draft pick and an expiring contract, and nobody has all three. Except Chicago."

But the Bobcats, if they're creative enough, have the cap flexibility to get the Sixers those three commodities while picking something up for themselves along the way. Charlotte would assumedly want cash and a first-round draft pick, but there aren't many teams with enough extra No. 1s in 2007 (Phoenix has three -- its own, Atlanta's [protected top 3] and Cleveland's; while Denver, Detroit and the Clippers each has two) to toss one apiece to the Sixers and Bobcats to sweeten the pot in a three-team deal.

Moreover, the Bobcats already have an extra No. 1 pick (Toronto's, protected 1-15), and they're so cash-starved (they laid off 12 employees Tuesday after an earlier round of front office cuts last summer; and they still don't have a naming rights deal, although owner Bob Johnson jettisoned the money-losing WNBA Sting on Wednesday) they just might consider brokering a deal simply to get their hands on $3 million -- the most any team can receive in a trade, and the exact lump sum they'd demand as a broker's fee to route Iverson elsewhere.
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Postby thug_pound on Fri Dec 15, 2006 2:04 pm

this is the most recent 1.....i dunno why it wont allow you to go in, it does that on some articles.
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Postby badboyhoward on Mon Dec 18, 2006 5:20 pm

unless they gonna play with two balls this ain't gonna work.
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