signs of gerald green

signs of gerald green

Postby live and die in LA on Sun Jun 19, 2005 6:55 am

from the boston globe:


"Prepping for a trade in Portland?

One of the interesting draft stories is the status of high schooler Gerald Green, who is going to be the first prepster chosen and could go as high as No. 3 overall.

He worked out Thursday for the Lakers, who have the 10th pick in the draft. Hmm. Couple that with Portland general manager John Nash's refusal to bring in Green for a solo workout -- Deron Williams and Chris Paul have similarly asked to go solo -- and you have to wonder whether there's a deal in the works.

Nash said something lame for publication about not being able to see Green's defense if there weren't another player present. Rubbish. No high school kid plays defense, and Nash knows that as well as anyone.

The guess here is that there's a deal in the works with the Lakers. Why would Green even consent to work out for LA if something wasn't going on? And why would the Blazers (picking third) bother working out high school player Martell Webster last week, unless they were going to move down?"


Now i dont know if this means anything because its from the boston globe but its something to talk about
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Postby KB24 on Sun Jun 19, 2005 7:19 am

The problem is smoke-screen or reality. If its a smokescreen its a DAMN GOOD one and if its reality it makes less or bad sense.
Odom and Kobe are pretty much locked at 2 and 3. Does Phil want to play Green and Kobe in the back-court? It doesn´t make real sense to me. All I can say is why a SG/SF?
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Postby wavy on Sun Jun 19, 2005 7:23 am

damn right. why do we need a guy who is compared to tracy mcgrady when we got kobe?
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Postby KB24 on Sun Jun 19, 2005 7:28 am

wavy wrote:damn right. why do we need a guy who is compared to tracy mcgrady when we got kobe?
The only answer would be to develop him into what the Lakers think he can be and trade him for a bigtime player. But are we in a situation to waste Kobes years with developing risky talents for the future? Is Phil comfortable with this, something he has never done and liked? Are we rethinkiing the rebuilding strategy? Do we want to maybe trade Kobe (I know about the clause) if it doesn´t work this year and want to have someone in place to takeover his position? Damn its too many realistic and unrealistic questions. I hate being helpless in such a case but there is nothing we can do but guess and speculate.
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Postby BleedPurple&Gold on Sun Jun 19, 2005 7:29 am

I think a trade for SAR/Randolph(although he's injured/recovering from sugery) and the #3 pick for butler and some expiring contracts and #10 could work. except i think we would aim to get paul w/ 3 b4 we try for green.
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Postby wavy on Sun Jun 19, 2005 7:34 am

i wouldn't do that trade. not for gerald green at least, if we had a chance to take bogut maybe.
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Postby KB24 on Sun Jun 19, 2005 7:35 am

BleedPurple&Gold wrote:I think a trade for SAR/Randolph(although he's injured/recovering from sugery) and the #3 pick for butler and some expiring contracts and #10 could work. except i think we would aim to get paul w/ 3 b4 we try for green.
I think Portland is about to get rid of Anderson and Ruben P. SAR is FA and Randolph has a toxic contract. So this doesn´t make good sense.
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Postby BleedPurple&Gold on Sun Jun 19, 2005 7:45 am

whats his contract btw?
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The Lakers will likely end up with

Postby Mailman04 on Sun Jun 19, 2005 10:22 am

Gerald Green and I have seen him play. He is the real deal guys and while he doesn't fit the need (PG,PF) deal, he has a chance to be one of the 3 best players in this draft when the dust settles behind only Marvin Williams and Bogut. Remember when Michael Jordan was passed on in th draft because of needs? No, I'm not saying Green is or will be another Jordan, but he will be a very special player in the NBA. They could do that and if they make the Indy trade then get Jack or some other PG at 17. That is unless they trade No. 10 and No. 17 for the higher pick. Then, they could get the PG thru free agency, Daniels or Watson would work for me. I was assuming they trade No 10 pick and player for no. 3 or 4 pick to get Green.
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Postby live and die in LA on Sun Jun 19, 2005 10:30 am

in my opinion we need someone who can help out now, if he were to play in his first year we would just be a sasha clone that can dunk. 3 or 4 years down the road he will probably be special but that would mean playing odom at power forward again or getting rid of odom. how would green and kobe ever co exist anyways?
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Postby Anthracit3 on Sun Jun 19, 2005 10:59 am

I'll do that trade in a second. Though gerald green is project and plays the same spot as kobe, it can be good for the future. Green would be here for 3-4 years just when kobe's contract is half done. If green becomes the player we are hoping for we can just trade kobe in for a player with less mileage. As for Zach, the man is a beast and a banger. We can get a PG with the 17th pick (indiana trade). The trade must include B. Grant to make it possible.
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Postby mulisha on Sun Jun 19, 2005 11:05 am

If it is the 3rd pick, wouldn't Paul still be available?
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Postby mattitude615 on Sun Jun 19, 2005 11:29 am

mulisha wrote:If it is the 3rd pick, wouldn't Paul still be available?


exactly, we're probably working on this trade to get paul, but just working out other possible people that would be available at 3...
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Postby LOUIE04 on Sun Jun 19, 2005 12:12 pm

i read somewhere that Mitch had a lot of interest in Green!! So if Mitch decides to do a deal of his own i think we would be safe! Dont u guys think that maybe Green can be moved to a PG!??! Kobe SG!! Odom SF!! Grant PF!! Mihm C!! :man1:
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Postby LakersCourt on Sun Jun 19, 2005 1:44 pm

I will not pass any judgment until the deal goes through. If after it does go through( I think we will move up with somebody) and we somehow have the choice between Chris Paul and Gerald Green and we pass on Chris, I'm going to be one mad Laker fan. :mad1:
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Postby Mark McNamara on Sun Jun 19, 2005 2:53 pm

LOUIE04 wrote:...Dont u guys think that maybe Green can be moved to a PG!??! Kobe SG!! Odom SF!! Grant PF!! Mihm C!! :man1:

Yes, and that would be the big "PG" that Phil prefers. Not to mention we could also nab a solid PF from POR. If this trade went down, it would bring all the rumors together. We move up in the draft, Mitch gets his high school phenom, Phil gets a huge backcourt, and we get a disgruntled "all star type player" from a team that missed the playoffs.
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Postby KobeistheGreatest1 on Sun Jun 19, 2005 3:23 pm

live and die in LA wrote:in my opinion we need someone who can help out now, if he were to play in his first year we would just be a sasha clone that can dunk. 3 or 4 years down the road he will probably be special but that would mean playing odom at power forward again or getting rid of odom. how would green and kobe ever co exist anyways?


OMG!!!

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Please do not ever again in your life mention Gerald Green and Sasha in the same breath. Sasha is a non-athletic, untalented 6'7" skinny euro point guard with little chance of ever being more than a bench warmer. If you wanna compare Green to someone, look at him as a Josh Smith type player with a solid jump shot. That's why he's gonna go 3-5 in the draft and J-Smooth went in the mid teens of the draft last year. Gerald Green IMO has the most potential of any player in the draft. If this trade goes down we would be getting 100% better. Gerald Green will most likely begin the season coming of the bench (a la Kobe in '96) and as the season progresses I think a lineup of Kobe-Green-Lamar-SAR-Mihm in the clutch will make us a deep contenders in the playoffs.

Gerald Green I believe can progress to become a Tracy McGrady clone. In that he's 6'8" guard with unbelievable athletism and a silky smooth jump shot that ranges all the way out to 3 point land. Now I think most people would agree that McGrady is a top ten player in the NBA and some even top five. Now my question would be to the guy who said why would you want a McGrady-esque player if you already have Kobe is:

Who in their right mind wouldn't want Kobe and McGrady on the same team???

I mean put some decent big men that can defend and rebound and I promise your looking at a MJ and Pip duo that is more talented than the original version. Gerald Green would be a SUPERP choice at pick #3 and if we can pick up a solid PG like Jack at pick #17 then I would be a very happy Laker fan!!!
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Postby TXLAKERFAN on Sun Jun 19, 2005 3:25 pm

If Gerald Green is available at what ever pck we end up with I say we take him regardless of what position he plays.
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Postby KB24 on Sun Jun 19, 2005 3:35 pm

KobeistheGreatest1 wrote:
live and die in LA wrote:in my opinion we need someone who can help out now, if he were to play in his first year we would just be a sasha clone that can dunk. 3 or 4 years down the road he will probably be special but that would mean playing odom at power forward again or getting rid of odom. how would green and kobe ever co exist anyways?


OMG!!!

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Please do not ever again in your life mention Gerald Green and Sasha in the same breath. Sasha is a non-athletic, untalented 6'7" skinny euro point guard with little chance of ever being more than a bench warmer. If you wanna compare Green to someone, look at him as a Josh Smith type player with a solid jump shot. That's why he's gonna go 3-5 in the draft and J-Smooth went in the mid teens of the draft last year. Gerald Green IMO has the most potential of any player in the draft. If this trade goes down we would be getting 100% better. Gerald Green will most likely begin the season coming of the bench (a la Kobe in '96) and as the season progresses I think a lineup of Kobe-Green-Lamar-SAR-Mihm in the clutch will make us a deep contenders in the playoffs.

Gerald Green I believe can progress to become a Tracy McGrady clone. In that he's 6'8" guard with unbelievable athletism and a silky smooth jump shot that ranges all the way out to 3 point land. Now I think most people would agree that McGrady is a top ten player in the NBA and some even top five. Now my question would be to the guy who said why would you want a McGrady-esque player if you already have Kobe is:

Who in their right mind wouldn't want Kobe and McGrady on the same team???

I mean put some decent big men that can defend and rebound and I promise your looking at a MJ and Pip duo that is more talented than the original version. Gerald Green would be a SUPERP choice at pick #3 and if we can pick up a solid PG like Jack at pick #17 then I would be a very happy Laker fan!!!

Slow down bro. More talented than MJ/Pip? :man3:
We would be deep contenders with Greens impact? :man3:
Take a deep breath, think about it.
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Postby live and die in LA on Sun Jun 19, 2005 4:57 pm

KobeistheGreatest1 wrote:
live and die in LA wrote:in my opinion we need someone who can help out now, if he were to play in his first year we would just be a sasha clone that can dunk. 3 or 4 years down the road he will probably be special but that would mean playing odom at power forward again or getting rid of odom. how would green and kobe ever co exist anyways?


OMG!!!

:man4: :man4: :man4:


Please do not ever again in your life mention Gerald Green and Sasha in the same breath. Sasha is a non-athletic, untalented 6'7" skinny euro point guard with little chance of ever being more than a bench warmer. If you wanna compare Green to someone, look at him as a Josh Smith type player with a solid jump shot. That's why he's gonna go 3-5 in the draft and J-Smooth went in the mid teens of the draft last year. Gerald Green IMO has the most potential of any player in the draft. If this trade goes down we would be getting 100% better. Gerald Green will most likely begin the season coming of the bench (a la Kobe in '96) and as the season progresses I think a lineup of Kobe-Green-Lamar-SAR-Mihm in the clutch will make us a deep contenders in the playoffs.

Gerald Green I believe can progress to become a Tracy McGrady clone. In that he's 6'8" guard with unbelievable athletism and a silky smooth jump shot that ranges all the way out to 3 point land. Now I think most people would agree that McGrady is a top ten player in the NBA and some even top five. Now my question would be to the guy who said why would you want a McGrady-esque player if you already have Kobe is:

Who in their right mind wouldn't want Kobe and McGrady on the same team???

I mean put some decent big men that can defend and rebound and I promise your looking at a MJ and Pip duo that is more talented than the original version. Gerald Green would be a SUPERP choice at pick #3 and if we can pick up a solid PG like Jack at pick #17 then I would be a very happy Laker fan!!!


if you think green would help the team his first 2 years you are crazy. he's just as skinny as sasha and cant play defense any better than sasha. yes green is alot more athletic than sasha but cool dunks dont make you a better player. down the road green can be an all star player but personally i want a player that can help right away because kobe isnt getting any younger and phil only signed a 3 year contract. not to mention we have like 30 small forwards.
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Postby KobeistheGreatest1 on Sun Jun 19, 2005 6:55 pm

KB8@CL wrote:
KobeistheGreatest1 wrote:
live and die in LA wrote:in my opinion we need someone who can help out now, if he were to play in his first year we would just be a sasha clone that can dunk. 3 or 4 years down the road he will probably be special but that would mean playing odom at power forward again or getting rid of odom. how would green and kobe ever co exist anyways?


OMG!!!

:man4: :man4: :man4:


Please do not ever again in your life mention Gerald Green and Sasha in the same breath. Sasha is a non-athletic, untalented 6'7" skinny euro point guard with little chance of ever being more than a bench warmer. If you wanna compare Green to someone, look at him as a Josh Smith type player with a solid jump shot. That's why he's gonna go 3-5 in the draft and J-Smooth went in the mid teens of the draft last year. Gerald Green IMO has the most potential of any player in the draft. If this trade goes down we would be getting 100% better. Gerald Green will most likely begin the season coming of the bench (a la Kobe in '96) and as the season progresses I think a lineup of Kobe-Green-Lamar-SAR-Mihm in the clutch will make us a deep contenders in the playoffs.

Gerald Green I believe can progress to become a Tracy McGrady clone. In that he's 6'8" guard with unbelievable athletism and a silky smooth jump shot that ranges all the way out to 3 point land. Now I think most people would agree that McGrady is a top ten player in the NBA and some even top five. Now my question would be to the guy who said why would you want a McGrady-esque player if you already have Kobe is:

Who in their right mind wouldn't want Kobe and McGrady on the same team???

I mean put some decent big men that can defend and rebound and I promise your looking at a MJ and Pip duo that is more talented than the original version. Gerald Green would be a SUPERP choice at pick #3 and if we can pick up a solid PG like Jack at pick #17 then I would be a very happy Laker fan!!!

Slow down bro. More talented than MJ/Pip? :man3:
We would be deep contenders with Greens impact? :man3:
Take a deep breath, think about it.



I was actually talking about Kobe & McGrady with the MJ/Pip comparisons. I was saying if we can potentially get a player as talented as McGrady then your looking at a more talented duo than MJ & Pip. Just think about it.
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Postby KobeistheGreatest1 on Sun Jun 19, 2005 6:59 pm

live and die in LA wrote:
KobeistheGreatest1 wrote:
live and die in LA wrote:in my opinion we need someone who can help out now, if he were to play in his first year we would just be a sasha clone that can dunk. 3 or 4 years down the road he will probably be special but that would mean playing odom at power forward again or getting rid of odom. how would green and kobe ever co exist anyways?


OMG!!!

:man4: :man4: :man4:


Please do not ever again in your life mention Gerald Green and Sasha in the same breath. Sasha is a non-athletic, untalented 6'7" skinny euro point guard with little chance of ever being more than a bench warmer. If you wanna compare Green to someone, look at him as a Josh Smith type player with a solid jump shot. That's why he's gonna go 3-5 in the draft and J-Smooth went in the mid teens of the draft last year. Gerald Green IMO has the most potential of any player in the draft. If this trade goes down we would be getting 100% better. Gerald Green will most likely begin the season coming of the bench (a la Kobe in '96) and as the season progresses I think a lineup of Kobe-Green-Lamar-SAR-Mihm in the clutch will make us a deep contenders in the playoffs.

Gerald Green I believe can progress to become a Tracy McGrady clone. In that he's 6'8" guard with unbelievable athletism and a silky smooth jump shot that ranges all the way out to 3 point land. Now I think most people would agree that McGrady is a top ten player in the NBA and some even top five. Now my question would be to the guy who said why would you want a McGrady-esque player if you already have Kobe is:

Who in their right mind wouldn't want Kobe and McGrady on the same team???

I mean put some decent big men that can defend and rebound and I promise your looking at a MJ and Pip duo that is more talented than the original version. Gerald Green would be a SUPERP choice at pick #3 and if we can pick up a solid PG like Jack at pick #17 then I would be a very happy Laker fan!!!


if you think green would help the team his first 2 years you are crazy. he's just as skinny as sasha and cant play defense any better than sasha. yes green is alot more athletic than sasha but cool dunks dont make you a better player. down the road green can be an all star player but personally i want a player that can help right away because kobe isnt getting any younger and phil only signed a 3 year contract. not to mention we have like 30 small forwards.


So what if were stacked at SF. If we believe Green is the best available player and the player with the most potential then we'd better draft him. Just ask the Portland Trailblazers about drafting need over talent (they passed Jordan cause they had Clyde and needed inside help). YOU MUST ALWAYS DRAFT TALENT OVER NEED!!!
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Postby EQualizer on Sun Jun 19, 2005 8:29 pm

well green wont be tasked with guarding pGs like sasha is, since sasha is like a PG....and well we all know sasha lacks the speed/strength to guard the speedier PGs or the stronger PGs

green will only have to guard SFs and SGs, and he definately has the speed to keep up with them, although he may not be as strong he still has good length

even if we do have 30 million small forwards, we get green, doesn't mean we can't trade green, or trade 30 million small forwards, we can still make roster moves
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Postby crucifido on Sun Jun 19, 2005 8:49 pm

Has anybody thought that IF the Lakers got Green he would be a fantasttic element for a trade?

I can almost guarantee that IF the Lakers get the kid, that he won't see day one in a Laker uniform. Couple him with a couple of expiring contracts and there'd be a nice medium impact player the Lakers can land.

I personally believe that Green is the guy the Lakers have had their eye on all along. No, not becuase he of what he can do for the Lakers, but what he can garner for the Lakers in a deal.
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Postby Anthracit3 on Sun Jun 19, 2005 9:48 pm

If the lakers pick Green, he will be in a laker uniform. I see him as a cornerstone for the future if he becomes the player they say he will be. He will be under contract for 3-4 years, by then Kobe or Lamar is on the last year or two with their current contracts. If he is a bust then you can trade him and keep Kobe and Lamar. If he becomes better than Kobe or Lamar then dump Kobe or Lamar's contract. Vicious, but hey thats what it takes to be a dynasty
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